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==Definite article==
==Definite article==
Given this is the title of the man, not his actual name, shouldn't this have the definite article 'le'? (compare: [[La Volpe]], [[The Dagger]]) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate|siniath]]) 13:21, April 8, 2020 (UTC)
Given this is the title of the man, not his actual name, shouldn't this have the definite article 'le'? (compare: [[La Volpe]], [[The Dagger]]) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate|siniath]]) 13:21, April 8, 2020 (UTC)
:There's no rule that a title or a title used to refer to a person has to have a definite article (e.g. {{wiki|Prince of Wales}}, {{wiki|Emperor of Japan}}), King of England). Titles would be grammatically preceded by the definite article in prose, but the definite article would not actually be part of the title itself (e.g. "the Emperor of Japan" but ''the'' is not part of the title). In fact, I have pointed out before about my skepticism that [[The Duelist]] or other similar titles should have the definite article, but it really depends on the individuals who created that title if they had intended the definite article to be part of it or not. Usually, if it is not clear, the definite article should not be added, but if it is clear (as in the case of La Volpe), it should. Perhaps, it is that titles which consist of a single word like "the Duelist" or "the Fox" need the definite article for clarity. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 21:19, April 8, 2020 (UTC)
:There's no rule that a title or a title used to refer to a person has to have a definite article (e.g. {{wiki|Prince of Wales}}, {{wiki|Emperor of Japan}}, King of England). Titles would be grammatically preceded by the definite article in prose, but the definite article would not actually be part of the title itself (e.g. "the Emperor of Japan" but ''the'' is not part of the title). In fact, I have pointed out before about my skepticism that [[The Duelist]] or other similar titles should have the definite article, but it really depends on the individuals who created that title if they had intended the definite article to be part of it or not. Usually, if it is not clear, the definite article should not be added, but if it is clear (as in the case of La Volpe), it should. Perhaps, it is that titles which consist of a single word like "the Duelist" or "the Fox" need the definite article for clarity. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 21:19, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

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Definite article

Given this is the title of the man, not his actual name, shouldn't this have the definite article 'le'? (compare: La Volpe, The Dagger) Sadelyrate (siniath) 13:21, April 8, 2020 (UTC)

There's no rule that a title or a title used to refer to a person has to have a definite article (e.g. Prince of Wales, Emperor of Japan, King of England). Titles would be grammatically preceded by the definite article in prose, but the definite article would not actually be part of the title itself (e.g. "the Emperor of Japan" but the is not part of the title). In fact, I have pointed out before about my skepticism that The Duelist or other similar titles should have the definite article, but it really depends on the individuals who created that title if they had intended the definite article to be part of it or not. Usually, if it is not clear, the definite article should not be added, but if it is clear (as in the case of La Volpe), it should. Perhaps, it is that titles which consist of a single word like "the Duelist" or "the Fox" need the definite article for clarity. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 21:19, April 8, 2020 (UTC)