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With recent developments plus the Shaun and Rah Cel'eze AIs (as well as the Norns?), is it time to have a category for AI individuals or is that just going to create a headache with distinguishing them from digitally preserved Isu minds and the like? [[User:Vetinari|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari|(Appointment)]]</sup> 16:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | With recent developments plus the Shaun and Rah Cel'eze AIs (as well as the Norns?), is it time to have a category for AI individuals or is that just going to create a headache with distinguishing them from digitally preserved Isu minds and the like? [[User:Vetinari|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari|(Appointment)]]</sup> 16:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | ||
:The Norn are representations for Eivor of Yggdrasil's calculations, so I wouldn't say they're thinking AI. I also wouldn't say that the 4 current personalities—Shaun, Rah, Ego, and Guide—fit under [Category:Species], since that is for living organisms. WP classifies ''Halo''{{'}}s Cortana and ''Marvel''{{'}}s FRIDAY as [Fictional artificial intelligences] and [Fictional virtual assistants], respectively, if that helps. – [[User:Darman36|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
::I think having them all under one specific category is fine, but I agree with darman, I would not put that category under "species" since that term is specific to biological beings. I would instead have that under the category of "Technology". - [[User:Soranin|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin|talk]]) 17:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::FwIW both the Shaun and Rah Cel'eze pages have their species down as AI in the infobox, the latter of which was done by *checks notes* Soranin. :p I agree it's a clumsy fit but makes sense to me for Human/Isu/AI categories to be in one place for navigation. [[User:Vetinari|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:22, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Fair enough, I am not to proud to admit when I've made mistakes. I'll be sure to fix it asap :) - [[User:Soranin|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin|talk]]) 22:26, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::You're allowed to change your mind. ;) I see two years ago I was saying in the Simulations cat. talk that the AIs don't count as people but my feeling is with Shadows they're something more distinct now. [[User:Vetinari|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::Perhaps the category could just be renamed? [[User:Vetinari|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari|(Appointment)]]</sup> 01:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC) | |||
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AI individuals[edit source]
This is an ongoing discussion.With recent developments plus the Shaun and Rah Cel'eze AIs (as well as the Norns?), is it time to have a category for AI individuals or is that just going to create a headache with distinguishing them from digitally preserved Isu minds and the like? Vetinari(Appointment) 16:13, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Norn are representations for Eivor of Yggdrasil's calculations, so I wouldn't say they're thinking AI. I also wouldn't say that the 4 current personalities—Shaun, Rah, Ego, and Guide—fit under [Category:Species], since that is for living organisms. WP classifies Halo's Cortana and Marvel's FRIDAY as [Fictional artificial intelligences] and [Fictional virtual assistants], respectively, if that helps. – Darman (talk) 16:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think having them all under one specific category is fine, but I agree with darman, I would not put that category under "species" since that term is specific to biological beings. I would instead have that under the category of "Technology". - Soranin (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- FwIW both the Shaun and Rah Cel'eze pages have their species down as AI in the infobox, the latter of which was done by *checks notes* Soranin. :p I agree it's a clumsy fit but makes sense to me for Human/Isu/AI categories to be in one place for navigation. Vetinari(Appointment) 22:22, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I am not to proud to admit when I've made mistakes. I'll be sure to fix it asap :) - Soranin (talk) 22:26, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- You're allowed to change your mind. ;) I see two years ago I was saying in the Simulations cat. talk that the AIs don't count as people but my feeling is with Shadows they're something more distinct now. Vetinari(Appointment) 22:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps the category could just be renamed? Vetinari(Appointment) 01:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- You're allowed to change your mind. ;) I see two years ago I was saying in the Simulations cat. talk that the AIs don't count as people but my feeling is with Shadows they're something more distinct now. Vetinari(Appointment) 22:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I am not to proud to admit when I've made mistakes. I'll be sure to fix it asap :) - Soranin (talk) 22:26, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- FwIW both the Shaun and Rah Cel'eze pages have their species down as AI in the infobox, the latter of which was done by *checks notes* Soranin. :p I agree it's a clumsy fit but makes sense to me for Human/Isu/AI categories to be in one place for navigation. Vetinari(Appointment) 22:22, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think having them all under one specific category is fine, but I agree with darman, I would not put that category under "species" since that term is specific to biological beings. I would instead have that under the category of "Technology". - Soranin (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)