Board Thread:Series general discussion/@comment-24760042-20170705214731/@comment-2112031-20170709234853

Abelzorus Prime wrote:

Sol Pacificus wrote:
Well, I sometimes thought that real-life weapons and military vehicles could be quite redundant and convoluted too, so I don't think having PoE after PoE is that unrealistic. Aside from non-fictional examples, in Star Wars, sometimes it seems like factions develop and manufacture a redundant variety of warships and tanks, but then I look to real-life, like at the U.S. military for example, and I realize it's kind of what you call "truth in television".

You guys know how many varieties of swords and polearms have been created throughout history? Just look at the weapons in Unity. All those are based on real weapon types.

Anyways, where I'm going with this is that, just as there's a trident and there's a staff and there's a spear and there's a sword, there can be a Trident of Eden, a Staff of Eden, a Spear of Eden, a Sword of Eden, and an weaponized fruit (hehe) of Eden. Perhaps every weapon that the Isu produced and wielded had special powers; that was simply the standard for their equipment. To us, these Pieces of Eden all seem unique and special and therefore it's redundant to have so many varieties of them with similar powers, but for the Isu, it was just as what we might think of different models of firearms, different types of swords, and different types of polearms, the only difference is that all of theirs were more powerful.

I obviously understand from an "in universe" point of view but I'm talking about the narrative and lore. Pieces of Eden are meant to have "special and unique effect" in the story and are usually the focal point of stories even if they werent that unique to the First Civ. So you can't really compare it to warships and tanks in Star Wars from a narrative point of view because knowing about them is of no significance to the Star Wars narrative.

And if you are going to create a new POE why create a new one which has the same abilities as establised POEs. Especially in this case when they could have just used a staff which has the same effects. I wouldn't want to see a Banana of Eden or Tangerine of Eden which basically has the same functions of the Apple.

What's the point, why convolute the canon.

I suppose the Trident of Eden was thought up partially because it's a cool concept and also in order to have it be broken up into seperate pieces which need to be collected, which can't really be done with a staff.

In terms of lore, I wouldn't really call it convoluted, although it is admittedly a bit reduntant. I suppose it's there for the sake of variety, as having the characters search for yet another Apple would be rather repetitive.