User talk:DSegno92

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Feel free to contact me on my talkpage if you need anything. Master Sima Yi (talk) 17:29, December 3, 2017 (UTC)

Badge hunting

Hello DSegno, a couple of users have brought to our attention that you have been editing your user page daily with virtually no real change. They observed that this editing pattern has also appeared across many other wikis you have contributed to and are concerned that you are badge hunting, specifically for the badges awarded to users for editing for 200 and 365 consecutive days. Editing for the sole sake of earning badges rather than providing meaningful contributions is strictly prohibited. While the staff did wish to assume good faith, we believe that your editing pattern can only be deliberate. Please refrain from continuing this behaviour further. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 15:16, September 27, 2020 (UTC)

Understood. – DSegno92 (talk) 16:42, September 27, 2020 (UTC)

Hello again, DSegno. I see you've added a few more bullets to your page since I last saw it. This is just another reminder that you were advised 2 months back against editing your user page with such content that is meaningless to the wiki. – Darman (talk) 17:25, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

I remember the warning of not doing it too much often, I did not understand I couldn't do it at all. – DSegno92 (talk) 19:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

It's not that it's forbidden, it's that it served no purpose. Anyone can add/remove content to their user pages, but there's almost always a reason, eg. updating a bio, a personal list of favorite pages, clearing outdated personal info, etc. However, your list is just marking down objects, people, etc. from the games, with no apparent order other than just to enumerate them. Furthermore, looking at your edit history, three of your four latest additions to your list were your only edit for the days of October 18, and November 1 and 14. This is highly unusual, since you clearly could find other pages to edit in some way over the last two months, and while I cannot verify it, a circumstantial case could be made that you did them just to have edited something and have it count towards the 200 consecutive days badge. – Darman (talk) 06:55, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

It's not forbidden to make minor edits to your user page, DSegno, even if it seems trivial. Darman did misspeak there. It's not really others' place to judge whether an edit to your user page matters or not in most cases, as long as you're not just adding and removing and adding and removing and adding random junk back and forth. However, it is strictly forbidden to edit your user page for the sole sake of earning a new badge, thereby exploiting the system. We cannot read your mind, so a minor edit in and of itself is not proof of this intent and rule violation. Even so, what you were doing before, spamming repeated minor edits on your page which could have been condensed into larger, singular edits was evidence of that intent.

Darman also suspects that you returned to committing this offence (of having that intent) due to the specific pattern and timing of those minor edits for the dates he referenced. If he is correct, then even though you did not spam edits on your user page, it is still wrong because you would have edited for that sole purpose of earning an achievement. Ultimately, though, I don't believe the evidence Darman raised for this repeat offence is convincing; I fear it might be mere suspicion. A minor edit on your user page on a certain day coupled with zero mainspace edits on that same day in and of itself is not evidence of wrongdoing. As well, even if you had aimed to make a random, trivial edit on a certain day just to hit that milestone, you could just as easily have chosen another page rather than your user page. I do not see the fact that that edit was on your user page to be any more or less suggestive of badge hunting than if you had made that edit on a mainspace page. Finally, it does not violate the rules to happen to earn a 200 consecutive days badge with a minor edit on a user page, even if that was your only edit on the 200th day because it could just be circumstantial that a user did not have any time to make a serious edit that day but did not want to break the streak. What would violate the rules is if you earned that 200 consecutive badge after having spammed meaningless edits consecutively. In short, if you have been editing meaningfully constantly, I think making a minor adjustment on a page—provided it is not spam—on one day to maintain the streak is fine. If you had been editing meaninglessly constantly, you could still be found guilty of violating our rule against badge hunting even if your edit at the end of a 200-day streak is a major, helpful edit.

So as of now, I will not lay down another warning on you, but bear in mind I have not reviewed your other edits. Currently, I am seeing some series of edits to trivia which are... too trivial... for even trivia. My opinion may change after I have reviewed these edits. Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 17:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I apologize for having misspoken, Sol. I had presumed that the recent actions followed the previously established pattern from history I'd seen. I was concerned one of the minor user page edits contributed to the badge, but not being able to prove it, I tried to hedge my bets with such loose "evidence" by saying the charge was circumstantial. However, you're right in that it was suspicion at most. I'm sorry for levying so hasty an accusation. Thank you for clearing that up. – Darman (talk) 18:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

You two do what you have to, I accept everything you'll decide.20:03, 17 November 2020 (UTC)(DSegno92)

RE:Sorry to bother, but I have to ask a question...

I mistakenly believed that a fifth-rate naval warship would be classified as a ship of the line, not a frigate. It was my bad for not double-checking. For future reference though, you were also welcome to correct me in the edit summary or provide more information explaining the reason for the change so that I know in advance that it was wrong. :) Sol Pacificus^(Cyfiero) 21:27, October 5, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I appreciate, and I'll do it. (DSegno92) 07:32, October 6, 2020 (UTC)