Talk:Benjamin Disraeli

What were the photos uploaded by me deleted for? They were from a Youtube Press Conference available here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yit0Uj2plEM .

Since the source is verified, I believe there's no harm in keeping those images.

Jetfire343 (talk) 10:36, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Your definition of "verified" does not fit with our Images policy, I'm afraid. Specifically, the images were removed for being unsourced (which they are). They're also quite a poor quality, and from pre-release promotional material - something we try to avoid if we can at all. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 11:08, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

So basically, if I arrange better images (which I will if it's ok) and source them, then can it be allowed? Because you cannot avoid pre-release material as far as an "upcoming" product is concerned.

Jetfire343 (talk) 13:32, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

There is a preference to not use screenshots from Youtube videos, yes, but seeing as the game itself isn't out yet, we've little alternatives. The images for Crawford Starrick and Lucy Thorne are also stills from youtube videos. If you source the images correctly (I left you a message a few days on your talkpage regarding the sourcing policy), then I don't see why we can't use them :) Crook ^{The Constantine District} 13:37, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

We can avoid pre-release material for an upcoming product quite easily; don't upload it. Any pre-release material is subject to change, and should only ever really be uploaded if it is sufficiently high quality, or deliberately released by Ubisoft for the purposes of depicting a character (see here). Gameplay trailers are notoriously bad choices to pull any sort of information/images from, as they are almost never representative of actual in-game events. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 14:41, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

I am torn between two divergent opinions. As for my reply to @Jasca Ducato, it's  not actually a trailer. I've given the link above in my first message for showing what it actually is. It's a press event which shows actual gameplay footage. The answer to this final question is what decides my course of action. SInce it is a long video, I mention here that the images are from around 44 minutes into the video.

As for @Crook - I did see your message, and have actually already arranged better photos. I wanted to know if there's a rule that absolutely prohibits press release screenshots.

Jetfire343 (talk) 15:12, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, there isn't. Like I said, I don't mind a slightly lower-quality image if we don't have any better alternatives atm - it can always be replaced later. Your source is from a fairly recent build as well, so I don't see a problem with it. Crook ^{The Constantine District} 15:25, October 16, 2015 (UTC)

Whether it's a trailer, or actual gameplay footage is irrelevant, since it's all pre-release and subsequently, it is subject to change. There have been plenty of gameplay trailers released that do not depict events that appear in-game (such as the AC3 fort infiltration gameplay trailer); people have, in the past, added the information from these trailers, despite the reservation of some contributors, only for it to be removed on release. --Jasca Ducato (talk | contributions) 15:26, October 16, 2015 (UTC)