Talk:Arquebusier

They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......EchoAltair 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

• The true rifles came into use during the mid-19^th Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15^th Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......

• Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called Arquebusiers… in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)