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Discovery's events happened, just not as Discovery told them, of course. But he has the final word, and if he says it's Non-Canon, then it's true. Everything stated in other media about Discovery remains Canon, like Luis and Raphael's existance. | Discovery's events happened, just not as Discovery told them, of course. But he has the final word, and if he says it's Non-Canon, then it's true. Everything stated in other media about Discovery remains Canon, like Luis and Raphael's existance. | ||
</div> | </div>Aside from Wikia Editor's response, my other point was how are we going to implement the change that ''Discovery'' is non-canon? Hence my questions I posed in my edit of the message. Because there are a lot of articles where the ''Discovery'' content is merged in with the film content, and if we have to modify them in response to Ubisoft's decision, I want to do it cleanly. | ||
Aside from Wikia Editor's response, my other point was how are we going to implement the change that ''Discovery'' is non-canon? Hence my questions I posed in my edit of the message. Because there are a lot of articles where the ''Discovery'' content is merged in with the film content, and if we have to modify them in response to Ubisoft's decision, I want to do it cleanly. | |||
By the way, I created a reddit account just now, but I've never used the site before. As a total noob xD, I don't know how to reach Aymar, or if reddit is even the best way since the discussion in the link above was an AMA specifically. | By the way, I created a reddit account just now, but I've never used the site before. As a total noob xD, I don't know how to reach Aymar, or if reddit is even the best way since the discussion in the link above was an AMA specifically. | ||
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As you mentioned, segregating the ''Discovery'' content from the rest articles would be quite a hassle. As for the non-canon indicator, perhaps something similar to what the ''Back to the Future'' and ''Metal Gear'' wikis have done. | As you mentioned, segregating the ''Discovery'' content from the rest of the articles would be quite a hassle. As for the non-canon indicator, perhaps something similar to what the ''Back to the Future'' and ''Metal Gear'' wikis have done. | ||
Funny enough, Bob Gale, co-writer of ''Back to the Future'', originally stated that only the movies were canon, with everything fitting into the 'what-if?' category or that it "might be canon in some alternate universe". However, he later changed his mind and stated "when you have a time machine and a premise that allows for multiple pasts, presents, and futures, everything is canon". | Funny enough, Bob Gale, co-writer of ''Back to the Future'', originally stated that only the movies were canon, with everything fitting into the 'what-if?' category or that it "might be canon in some alternate universe". However, he later changed his mind and stated "when you have a time machine and a premise that allows for multiple pasts, presents, and futures, everything is canon". | ||
The situation with ''Metal Gear'' is a bit more complicated. Basically, everything Hideo Kojima worked on is canon, some games, like ''Ghost Babel'', were explicitly declared non-canon, and others, like ''Portable Ops'' and ''Revengeance'', are a bit more ambiguous. | The situation with ''Metal Gear'' is a bit more complicated. Basically, everything Hideo Kojima worked on is canon, some games, like ''Ghost Babel'', were explicitly declared non-canon, and others, like ''Portable Ops'' and ''Revengeance'', are a bit more ambiguous. | ||
''Revengeance'' isn't such a big deal because it takes place, chronologically, after everything else in the series. | |||
Kojima's official stance regarding ''Portable Ops'' is that it's "canon, but some details are off". The "details" he mentioned being the things that could potentially be contradicted by his later games. Or, as DipsonDP put it, "Discovery's events happened, just not as Discovery told them". | Kojima's official stance regarding ''Portable Ops'' is that it's "canon, but some details are off". The "details" he mentioned being the things that could potentially be contradicted by his later games. Or, as DipsonDP put it, "Discovery's events happened, just not as Discovery told them". | ||
I think that, if we fail to convince Aymar to make it canon again, then we might at least succeed in convincing him take a more Hideo Kojima-esque approach to the matter and declare it "canon, with some details being off". | I think that, if we fail to convince Aymar to make it canon again, then we might at least succeed in convincing him take a more Hideo Kojima-esque approach to the matter and declare it "canon, with some details being off". | ||
Latest revision as of 14:49, 24 March 2017
DipsonDP wrote: Discovery's events happened, just not as Discovery told them, of course. But he has the final word, and if he says it's Non-Canon, then it's true. Everything stated in other media about Discovery remains Canon, like Luis and Raphael's existance.
By the way, I created a reddit account just now, but I've never used the site before. As a total noob xD, I don't know how to reach Aymar, or if reddit is even the best way since the discussion in the link above was an AMA specifically.
As you mentioned, segregating the Discovery content from the rest of the articles would be quite a hassle. As for the non-canon indicator, perhaps something similar to what the Back to the Future and Metal Gear wikis have done.
Funny enough, Bob Gale, co-writer of Back to the Future, originally stated that only the movies were canon, with everything fitting into the 'what-if?' category or that it "might be canon in some alternate universe". However, he later changed his mind and stated "when you have a time machine and a premise that allows for multiple pasts, presents, and futures, everything is canon".
The situation with Metal Gear is a bit more complicated. Basically, everything Hideo Kojima worked on is canon, some games, like Ghost Babel, were explicitly declared non-canon, and others, like Portable Ops and Revengeance, are a bit more ambiguous.
Revengeance isn't such a big deal because it takes place, chronologically, after everything else in the series.
Kojima's official stance regarding Portable Ops is that it's "canon, but some details are off". The "details" he mentioned being the things that could potentially be contradicted by his later games. Or, as DipsonDP put it, "Discovery's events happened, just not as Discovery told them".
I think that, if we fail to convince Aymar to make it canon again, then we might at least succeed in convincing him take a more Hideo Kojima-esque approach to the matter and declare it "canon, with some details being off".