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Hey Crimson Eagle, so since you said that you're the one who handled most of the weapons articles, I was thinking perhaps you and I could just discuss some of the unresolved issues and resolve them given that no one else seems interested enough in the matter or ever responded to discussions I set out about them.
Hey Crimson Eagle, so since you said that you're the one who handled most of the weapons articles, I was thinking perhaps you and I could just discuss some of the unresolved issues and resolve them given that no one else seems interested enough in the matter or ever responded to discussions I set out about them.


1) I noticed at [[Common Sword]] that you have already decided on one of the issues, that is whether an article should concern a specific model of a sword or whether it should concern that type of sword in general. You chose the former, and I'm fine with that precedent. I think my only hesitation about that route before is that I thought having to proper noun the names was a bit awkward grammatically even though it'd be correct if they're about specific models.
1) I noticed at [[Common Sword]] that you have already decided on one of the issues, that is whether an article should concern a specific model of a sword or whether it should concern that type of sword in general. You chose the former, and I'm fine with that precedent. I think my only hesitation about that route initially is that I thought having to proper noun the names was a bit awkward grammatically even though it'd be correct if they're about specific models.


However, I'm not sure if that necessarily should be the case with ''all'' weapons, such as some of those in ''Unity''. For [[spear]], I have already chosen the article to represent spears across all media, not just the specific Spear in ''Unity''. We should also remember that some of there are also weapons in novels and comics too, not just the games.
However, I'm not sure if that necessarily should be the case with ''all'' weapons, such as some of those in ''Unity''. For [[spear]], I have already chosen the article to represent spears across all media, not just the specific Spear in ''Unity''. We should also remember that there are also weapons in novels and comics too, not just the games.


A compromise might be to have both articles on the weapon in general and articles on specific models of weapons, so [[Spear]] in general and [[Spear (Unity)]]. This would resolve the confusion over how at this point, it would probably be better to have an article about pistols or flintlock pistols in general, but then flintlock pistols of different games are different models. (I personally find that the article firearms is simply too broad).
A compromise might be to have both articles on the weapon in general and articles on specific models of weapons, so [[Spear]] in general and [[Spear (Unity)]]. This would resolve the confusion over how at this point, it would probably be better to have an article about pistols or flintlock pistols in general, but then flintlock pistols of different games are different models. (I personally find that the article firearms is simply too broad).

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Absence

Hey, Crimson. I've seen you've been absent for quite a while -- I wanted to check in and make sure you're doing alright. How're things? I hope you're planning to rejoin us soon. Hope to hear from you! DarkFeather Raven's NestRaven's Hunt 04:21, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there Cream. Hows things old friend, life treating you well? (Sorry for piggy-backing off of this Dark :>) --Fragment -Animus- 18:33, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Apologies for the absurdly late reply, but I am doing well, thank you. I think I might start being active here again, as I have nothing but free time right now, and I've recently gotten back into the series. I finally got around to finishing Unity last month, and I'm mopping up side activities before I get Syndicate. --Crimson Knight Intercom 20:57, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Weapon articles issues

Hey Crimson Eagle, so since you said that you're the one who handled most of the weapons articles, I was thinking perhaps you and I could just discuss some of the unresolved issues and resolve them given that no one else seems interested enough in the matter or ever responded to discussions I set out about them.

1) I noticed at Common Sword that you have already decided on one of the issues, that is whether an article should concern a specific model of a sword or whether it should concern that type of sword in general. You chose the former, and I'm fine with that precedent. I think my only hesitation about that route initially is that I thought having to proper noun the names was a bit awkward grammatically even though it'd be correct if they're about specific models.

However, I'm not sure if that necessarily should be the case with all weapons, such as some of those in Unity. For spear, I have already chosen the article to represent spears across all media, not just the specific Spear in Unity. We should also remember that there are also weapons in novels and comics too, not just the games.

A compromise might be to have both articles on the weapon in general and articles on specific models of weapons, so Spear in general and Spear (Unity). This would resolve the confusion over how at this point, it would probably be better to have an article about pistols or flintlock pistols in general, but then flintlock pistols of different games are different models. (I personally find that the article firearms is simply too broad).

2) I might add here that I am firmly opposed to our practice of using articles that represent general categories titled in the plural. Part of this is because it's a bit arbitrary now. For example, we have firearms in the plural because users argue that it's a "group" as opposed to more specific weapons, but "pistols" can also be argued to be a group. As well, the distinction between what constitutes a group/category and what does not is purely a gameplay element—the examples brought up by one of the editors being mercenaries—and also we have extended this practice to many articles in general, a group or not, such as foxes and eagles. Moreover, anything can be "grouped".

Are maces general enough to be a group? What about long swords since there are several types? I think that it is arbitrary to say that "firearms" is 'groupey' enough to be in the plural, but more specific guns are not, such as pistols, even though there are more specific types of those as well. I think we should just go by Wikipedia or Wookieepedia's practice of not arbitrarily assigning each specific things as a tier in categorization (e.g. would tables be on the same tier as firearms?) that warrants pluralization. We originally had this practice to emulate the way of classification in Assassin's Creed games, but they are not consistent across all media. Unity, for example, distinguishes "rifles" and "pistols" rather than having the category "firearms".

These are the first two issues off the top of my head. I think there are more though. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 05:50, August 11, 2017 (UTC)