User talk:Alientraveller

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Wolves

Articles related to the animals have been put off until the game has been released. Voice your opinion.. --VATSA (TALK • GENTEK) 17:42, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm fine with the consensus myself. --Alientraveller 17:47, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

My mistake

Hey Alien. Sorry about that revert earlier. Basically, I read your summary as "Achilles died before the wedding." I don't know how that happened, it just did. I blame lack of sleep and global warming XD Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 20:22, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

French Colonial Assassins

While Louisiana and Saint-Domingue were both French colonies, they were not one Brotherhood. And if they were, it's never stated or implied as such. Agaté did not have control over Assassins outside of Louisiana, only over Aveline and Gérald. François Mackandal did not have control over Assassins in Louisiana, as there were none during his day. It would not be reasonable for a Mentor in Louisiana to lead the Assassins in Saint-Domingue either, or vice versa. It's for a reason that Agaté is listed by Ubisoft as being the Mentor of the Assassins in Louisiana and Mackandal as the Mentor of the Assassins in Saint-Domingue. :P Perhaps separate articles for the Louisianan Assassins and Haitian Assassins would be better... (even though I am starting to have my doubts about the usefulness of their existence). -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 17:08, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps we could revamp the Colonial Assassins article to cover all the British, French and Spanish members given how fragmented the Brotherhood was. I agree, there's not much point to Haitian or Louisianan Assassins given how either group didn't have much history. --Alientraveller (talk) 17:15, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

The Colonial Brotherhood was its own Brotherhood, not a convergence of different Brotherhoods. And a Brotherhood did not have multiple Mentors (e.g. Mackandal, Agaté and Achilles; Agaté and Achilles at the same time even). "You may not think it to look at him how, but this man was once the Mentor of a powerful branch of the Assassins - the Colonial Brotherhood." - the Mentor. The Colonial Brotherhood is simply the one in the Thirteen Colonies, strange how Ubisoft named it. The Assassins in Louisiana and Saint-Domingue were definitely their own Brotherhoods - especially those in Saint-Domingue, which were in the Caribbean. And I meant to refer more to the existence of all 'branch' articles, seeing as all information will inevitably be covered under the Assassins article anyways, and we can't make Templar branch articles because of their complicated and ever-changing hierarchy. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 17:23, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

EDIT: And fix yo talk page, mayn! -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 17:24, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, what's wrong?

I think the branches articles are fantastic subarticles because the Assassins page is very long. Maybe we could split the French Colonial article. --Alientraveller (talk) 17:39, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what is happening to your talk page, but when I try to edit it entirely your message does not show up in the text box. Before that it was just acting up. Anyways, yeah, the Assassins page is very long - but that is unfortunately unavoidable when we have yearly releases... but it's mostly because we can't have proper Templar branch pages that, well, I'd call it my slight case of OCD, starts acting up. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 17:50, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

To be fair, the Templars are an ideology, not a group of hooded killers created to exterminate them in any corner. The Templars manifested themselves as the Roman Empire, Knights Templar, the Church, Byzantines, British Army and now Abstergo. So in a way, they have many branch articles. --Alientraveller (talk) 18:23, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Well, that is not entirely true: they did not manifest themselves as the Roman Republic/Empire, Byzantine Empire or British Army. These organizations stood on their own; the Templars infiltrated them, but these organizations were not Templar bodies. Just like the Assassins infiltrated the Roman Republic (the Assassin Senators Brutus and Cassius). In the case of the Byzantines, the Templars merely fought under the Byzantine banner to rally the Greeks in the Ottoman Empire against their new hosts. But yeah, I see your point. Main problem is that, well, during the reign of the Borgia, it would seem that Rodrigo Borgia was the Grand Master of all Assassins in Europe, seeing as the Borgia had their hands on everything Templar in the continent. Yet some time later, and Reginald Birch (and likely others) had their own 'Rites' throughout Europe. And Rodrigo Borgia is named specifically as the Grand Master of the Italian Templars in the AC2 database. Another issue is the Byzantine Templars, who were mixed with Ottoman Templars and did not last very long. The Templars fall and rise whenever they please, they don't seem to have had any clear hierarchy prior to the founding of Abstergo Industries. And after that it is still quite vague, with their puppets and all. -- Master Sima Yi _Talk 18:30, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Heh, I should've typed manifested in, not as. In any case, we should leave the community to decide consensus on the branches articles and what French Colonial Assassins should cover or be split. --Alientraveller (talk) 19:21, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Samuel Adams

Just thought I'd let you know that the Samuel Adams page is one of Emerald's assignments. He's been having trouble lately with his computer, but should be able to get back on it soon. Stormbeast ♉ ^{The Helpful Place} 23:03, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

I have permission from Nesty his mentor, though I ought to check with him as well. Thanks for the reminder. --Alientraveller (talk) 23:25, July 11, 2013 (UTC)