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The Article pic is not a Templar, that's one of Richard's knights.

It never actually says that Cain was a Templar and Abel, Adam, and Eve were Assassins, which wouldn't make very much sense. It simply displays the enigmatic Mark of Cain as being the Templars' symbol. In stead of looking to the literal, look to the actual story of Cain and Abel. Cain was mankinds first sinner, and he brought sin into mankind's lineage-in other words, sin=pieces of eden

I don't think they would just make Cain's mark the Templars' logo. I think Cain's personal beliefs had something to do with it as well. Which, I think, makes him the very first follower of the Templars' beliefs. By the way, Those Who Came Before created the Pieces of Eden. Master Sima Yi 11:52, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

How can he be a follower of their belief system if they haven't even been invented yet? Perhaps you mean he is the ideological precursor to the Templars, on whom they base their creed, or maybe it's something deeper like all Templars carry his bloodline. We don't know yet. But in any case, the creators of the Pieces of Eden aren't relevant in an argument about Cain and Abel. He was jealous over the Apple's power and killed his brother nonetheless in order to gain it, which can pretty much be summed up as the epitomy of sin.Rodiggidy 21:21, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Surely the Glyph sequence figuring Cain, stating the "Mark of Cain" is the Templar symbol is pretty conclusive proof that he was the first Templar... Also, Oppenheimer was probably a Templar, as he was mentioned as "O." in a glyph sequence - non-templars, like Telsa, seem to be always referred too with a name rather than just a letter. As for Able, Adam, and Eden, I don't think they were assassins themselves (though A and E seem to be either 'demigods' or at the very least, leaders of the human rebellion against though who came before), I do think there 'line' was the origin of the Assassins, with some of there descenants retaining the immunity to the pieces of eden (like Altair and the assassins who help him out in the final sequence of Assassins Creed 1, and of course Ezio). Of course, "Assassins: Sons of two worlds" might imply A and E aren't the origin of all assassins, and other "demigods" (i.e. human/those who came before hybrids). Yargling 22:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Cain was not a templar, and it makes no sense to refrence him as such. You're taking what was meant to be metaphorical and turning it into a literal sense. On the subject of johnson, he signed the civil rights act into law, which means that he blatently went against everything that the Templars hoped to accomplish by killing him. O stands for oswald.

Secondly, it looks like this page was written by a 7 year old.

Others

Can someone say where all of the "others" appear in the Glyph sequences and their confirmation of them being Templars? Otherwise, they will be removed as they would be assumptions and not fact. -- Master Sima Yi 15:39, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Is FDR a templar or not? it's saying that he was probably a templar, but on one of the pieces of eden pages, he's listed under "Templar association".

And secondly, where are you guys getting this info about who is and isn't templars or assassins? besides the glyphs and the characters in the games, themsevles.

The info is from both the glyphs and other in-game media, as well, as the new comics, and other written pieces. And yes, Roosevelt was a Templar. It was spoken of in one of the GLYPH files I believe, can't remember which. Oh, and please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so we know who you are. :) --Piratehunter (Talk•Contribs) 20:45, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

It never says that he's a Templar. Only that he had an Apple. Subject One 21:57, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Templars in AC are Atheist

I was a having a debate with my friend about this topic, I know am right , i just can't seem to find any sources to back it up. can anyone help Twomey1993 21:20, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

In the original AC they feared death more than others because they thought after death there was nothing, no world, no heaven, no god. You're right. Check out this guy's last words for proof. --THIEF 06:50, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

That was just Sibrand, though. It's never specifically indicated that any of the others were atheists. Subject One 21:55, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Raylas 04:20, January 3, 2011 (UTC)Keep an eye out

Some religious nutcase Vandilised the Templar page, keep an eye out for this kind of thing. -- Raylas

Yes, and if I were you I would sign my post next time and Do Not Erase Paragraphs Of Info To Replace Them With Only Two Lines. This is against the rules and WILL get you banned if you do it again. Have a nice day. -Assassin-of-Rayne- 01:03, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sixtus IV

"Papacy" is currently listed under "Related organizations", with Lineage cited as the source. As far as I can tell, there's no particular evidence that the Papacy, apart from during Rodrigo's rule, was affiliated with the Templars. Subject One 22:32, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Also, on an unrelated note, Damascus, Jerusalem, Milan, and Forli shoule be added under "Locations". (Also possibly Masyaf, due to Al Mualim being a Templar.) I just tried to do it myself, but I got lost with the reference format. Once again, I fail at wiki. T-T Subject One 22:57, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Damascus, Jerusalem, Milan, and Forli are not listed under locations because the Templars did not control them at any point and/or have a major base of operations in those cities. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 04:48, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, except that the cities were formerly controlled by Abu'l Nuquod, Majd Addin, and Girolamo Riario, who were all templars.

Oh, and Jerusalem is surely a Templar base. It's where the main HQ of the Knights was, on top of the Temple Mount. (before Saladin recaptured the city). Vaxis7 02:30, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

CIA

While some of the Rifts say stuff about "the Company", I don't think they were referring to the Central Intelligence Agency, but rather Abstergo Industries. In Rift Cluster 5, part of Henry Kissinger's letter says "Any traces of this plan should appear to implicate the U.S. government. The Company's involvement must remain hidden." If the CIA were to be implicated, U.S. government would be implicated as a result. Therefore, I don't believe they were referring to the CIA. — M.C.Tales 15:50, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Templars are possibly Democrats

Has anyone else noticed that the Templars (who want more higher authority and intervention of government) seem to consist of Democrats and Socialists (Boris Yeltsin, Franklin Roosevelt, etc) ? Democrats and Socialists are smiliar to one another in the aspect of placing men over men.

This would make the Assassins Republican, correct? Since they believed that men should be able to choose and decide for themselves rather than the government doing it for them.

No. Sign your posts. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 21:04, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

George W. Bush is also a Templar, and he's Republican. It has nothing to do with it, unfortunately. It'd clear up some things. -- Master Sima Yi 22:34, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Conflicting Templates

This article has both the revamp template and the good article template. Which one is it? Smoke3723 06:17, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

E3 2011 Templar

Does anyone know who that guy is? People suggest a descendent of Robert de Sable, but I'm not so sure anymore. After watching an E3 interview, I came to the conclusion that this Templar was a real figure in Ottoman history. I'm trying to find him now, but so far no leads...any ideas? -- Stormbeast 00:26, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

• Here. --Jasca Ducato _{Council Chamber} ^{Assassination record} 01:51, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
• Not quite what I was talking about...thanks anyway. Stormbeast 02:45, June 30, 2011 (UTC)