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If you're going to add this, wouldn't a page for Ancient Greece be necessary too? [[User:Boofhead185|Boofhead185]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185|talk]]) 13:36, October 21, 2018 (UTC) | If you're going to add this, wouldn't a page for Ancient Greece be necessary too? [[User:Boofhead185|Boofhead185]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185|talk]]) 13:36, October 21, 2018 (UTC) | ||
:No, because the Greek civilization is already covered under the article [[Greece]] just as the Egyptian civilization, whether ancient or modern, is covered under the article [[Egypt]]. The only problem here is that while Italy is technically a modern, successor state of ancient Rome, it is not readily identifiable as the same civilization. Even if one might make the argument that ancient Egypt and modern Egypt are two different civilizations, there is still a continuous, national identity between the two. Actually, saying so, I won't mind if every time we discussed the Roman civilization as a whole, we linked to Italy, but this would likely be very confusing for most people. | |||
:The one thing I'm not sure about is if this article should just be moved to "Roman civilization" or "Rome (civilization)", in which case, it would encompass the Eastern Roman Empire as well. | :The one thing I'm not sure about is if this article should just be moved to "Roman civilization" or "Rome (civilization)", in which case, it would encompass the Eastern Roman Empire as well. | ||
:For clarification, unlike Wikipedia which merges a hypothetical page on a country's current regime with a page on the country's civilization as a whole (e.g. People's Republic of China and China are the same article), we have decided that we should not emulate this practice. Articles on countries like Greece, Egypt, China, etc. should clearly be about these civilizations throughout all of history, rather than directing to the modern state. The issue here that necessitated this article on the Roman civilization is that there isn't an article covering this civilization as a whole, unlike with Greece, unless we were to give that honor to Italy. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 15:49, October 21, 2018 (UTC) | :For clarification, unlike Wikipedia which merges a hypothetical page on a country's current regime with a page on the country's civilization as a whole (e.g. People's Republic of China and China are the same article), we have decided that we should not emulate this practice. Articles on countries like Greece, Egypt, China, etc. should clearly be about these civilizations throughout all of history, rather than directing to the modern state. The issue here that necessitated this article on the Roman civilization is that there isn't an article covering this civilization as a whole, unlike with Greece, unless we were to give that honor to Italy. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 15:49, October 21, 2018 (UTC) | ||
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Necessity
If you're going to add this, wouldn't a page for Ancient Greece be necessary too? Boofhead185 (talk) 13:36, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
- No, because the Greek civilization is already covered under the article Greece just as the Egyptian civilization, whether ancient or modern, is covered under the article Egypt. The only problem here is that while Italy is technically a modern, successor state of ancient Rome, it is not readily identifiable as the same civilization. Even if one might make the argument that ancient Egypt and modern Egypt are two different civilizations, there is still a continuous, national identity between the two. Actually, saying so, I won't mind if every time we discussed the Roman civilization as a whole, we linked to Italy, but this would likely be very confusing for most people.
- The one thing I'm not sure about is if this article should just be moved to "Roman civilization" or "Rome (civilization)", in which case, it would encompass the Eastern Roman Empire as well.
- For clarification, unlike Wikipedia which merges a hypothetical page on a country's current regime with a page on the country's civilization as a whole (e.g. People's Republic of China and China are the same article), we have decided that we should not emulate this practice. Articles on countries like Greece, Egypt, China, etc. should clearly be about these civilizations throughout all of history, rather than directing to the modern state. The issue here that necessitated this article on the Roman civilization is that there isn't an article covering this civilization as a whole, unlike with Greece, unless we were to give that honor to Italy. Sol Pacificus(Cyfiero) 15:49, October 21, 2018 (UTC)