Talk:Al Mualim

This person may be intended to be be Rashid ad-Din Sinan, leader of the Hashshashin from 1162 to 1192 and "Master of the Syrian assassins", which matches what is said in the game. Moreover, the time of his death roughly matches the one of Al Mualim's.

He is. If you play the mobile version of the game and take the time to read the slow-scrolling text about Altair, you will find that they say, "Sinan, Master of Assassins".

Why is there speculation about an Al Mualim / Warren Vidic connection? If that were the case, why not toss Vidic in the Animus in AC1 to read Al Mualim's memories of the Piece of Eden, and avoid the entire fiasco with Desmond?

As you said, it's just a speculation. Maybe Abstergo didn't knew it. I too don't believe in it, since we would have lot of clues and conections throughout the games to such a important heritage. -- D. Cello 15:20, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

i think Warren was unable to use is own memories , because Al Mualim had a child sometime before the events of AC, so Warren would only have Al Mualim memories up until he has a child. Adam2me00:06, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Does Al Muaim have his finger amputated?

Its quite obvious that Al Mualim is basically Rashid ad-Din Sinan. It makes sense that Rashid would go by a name like Al Mualim. Also, there is some resemblance between Al Mualim, Rodrigo Borgia and Warren Vidic. So its quite possible. But maybe the reason why Abstergo doesn't put Warren in the Animus is probably because they're afraid that their best scientist will lose his sanity in the Animus like Subject 16. Or also because they are unaware of Vidic's Lineage. Or maybe because Al Mualim's memories are only available till he has a son. Which would probably be well before the events of Assassin's Creed.

yes but as he is referred in the game as Al Mualim, why do we not refer to him like that above his profile picture?

How Old is he?

Year of birth and age?

196.25.255.246 14:06, March 28, 2010 (UTC)someone

The strategy guide states that he is in his 50s Altaïr 11:26 March 29,2010 (UTC)

Eagle vision

When exactly can you see him in eagle visions? (except the end battle) Cause i wanna try it on him

[[Special:Contributions/109.129.81.221|EXistenZ! 15:58, January 2, 2011 (UTC) ]]

I don't think you ever can seeing as that would kinda give away the surprise at the end.

AdminAuditor(e)^Talk 21:08, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

No Apparently you can see him in eagle vision, but he turns up blue. I wanna know when in the game this is, cause i thought he only appeared in cutscenes EXistenZ! 08:29, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's before you go after Masun (that traitor guy that opened the gate). When Al Mualim tells you that he took all of your weapons, you can see him in Eagle Vision (he's blue and blue=ally (supposedly)... And that's the only time. After that he 'vanishes' when he's done talking to you. Subject 16 18 06:34, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Al Mualim a Templar?

I did not find any convincing proof that he was a Templar after all, I think he just desired power for himself. The Templars are a powerful organization that all its members share a common goal for all of the organization's interests, one character showing himself as a "villain" does not mean he is a Templar. AltairTheFlyingOne 16:08, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Robert de Sable's final words are quite convincing of the fact. Altaïr protested that Al Mualim was not a Templar, but Robert countered him, asking why Al Mualim knew so much of the Templars' actions. Robert also said that "The only difference between your master and I is that he did not want to share," indicating their common allegiance. =GuardDog 16:33, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then, pretty plausible, thanks! AltairTheFlyingOne 21:46, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Name

When was confirmed his name is Rashid ad-Din Sinan? VaniVoid97 21:16, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

The Revelations novel confirms Al Mualim is the Old Man of the Mountain; Rashid ad-Din Sinan. Additionally, the AC1 mobile game refers to him as Sinan, and there's nothing to contradict that Nesty ^{Contact me!} 21:20, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

...You just copied my words. >.> -- Master Sima Yi 21:44, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

It was a clear explanation. Why write something myself, which would have been less clear and comprehensive? Nesty ^{Contact me!} 21:47, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

I should've put copyright on it. -- Master Sima Yi 21:48, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you shoud've, but you didn't. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 21:49, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so he has this additional name, but WHY change the article title? EVERYONE knows him as Al-Mualim and this will simply confuse anyone who does not know of the novel or mobile game. The Jupiter article is not called Tinia. The Ezio article is not called The Prophet. All the core games refer to him only as Al-Mualim. So seriously, why change the name of the article? -- Vaxis Dec 12 12:51 AM

Because Al Mualim's REAL name is Rashid ad-Din Sinan, and this wiki, being primarily focused on canon, will use only official real names as article titles and not what the most popular one is. "Al Mualim" simply redirects to "Rashid ad-Din Sinan", so there will be no problems. Don't think we're stupid. And calling Ezio's article "The Prophet" is preposterous and doesn't make any sense at all. -- Master Sima Yi 07:27, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is stupid, I simply think it is probably a good idea to keep the page named as it used to be. So why is Al-Mualim not the real name then, if he is called and credited as such in the core games of the series...? I'm a bit confused here as I have not read the novel this other name seems to come from.

-- Vaxis Dec 12 12:18 PM

Rashid ad-Din Sinan is his real name, Al Mualim translates to "The master" or "The mentor", which is his title. Nesty ^{Contact me!} 18:34, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Last Words

Should we put the ACR version of his last words in the last words section? Y'know, like when Altair says "I am sorry Mentor, but the Apple has corrupted you, and through you, would have corrupted us." Makao 11:25, December 26, 2011 (UTC)

Facts

Historical Fact: The Syrian Hashashin's were the very first of the "assassin" concept (as far as historical record suggests), and were based in Masyaf Castle, and led by a man named Rashid ad-Din Sinan... who was killed in 1192. The "order" had significant recognition during the Third Crusade.

Modern Fact: The opening screen of EVERY Assassin's Creed game states that "This game is based on historical FIGURES and EVENTS for fictitious purposes." If you do the research, almost all of the important characters (if not all), aside from the Assassins (Altair and Ezio) and their families, actually did exist; in fact their historical death dates match up with when they were killed by said assassin in-game.

Game-Universe Fact: Animus 1.23 (AC version of the Animus, aka "Abstergo Animus") is said to be not all that great, and even the ACR Codex comments on just how poor-quality its Altair Avatar was at portraying the Assassin (this may be reference to either Altair's "Accent Change" in ACR, or just 1.23 didn't really show his personality... or his face). Animus 2.01 (ACII) was a "garage-made" copy of the prototype blueprints, but it was supposed to actually run a lot better than anything Abstergo came up with... but it's translation software still needed some tweaking; ever since Rebecca has been altering it. So, in AC, Animus 1.23 can't translate "Al Mualim", but in ACR, Animus 2.03 is able to translate Sinan's title as "The Mentor". The ACR Codex is also able to show that "Al Mualim" is "The Mentor" in Altair's language (which we're left to assume is Arabic, or maybe Aramaic), and that his real name is Rashid ad-Din Sinan.

Historical/Game-Universe Fact: ACR SPOILERS: Marco Polo is credited for being the first (if not the only one) to have recorded the facts/events of the Hashashin at Masyaf Castle... who had abandoned the fortess and possibly even "disbanded" decades before Polo's writing. ACR shows Altair having completed training the Polo brothers (Marco's father and uncle), and passing on his and the Assassin's legacy onto the brothers as Masyaf is being evacuated. Niccolò Polo (Marco's father) promises Altair that although Marco is right now too young to understand all this (Assassin Legacy, and their ongoing war with the Templars) that he will share it with him one day. —unsigned comment by 204.210.109.249 (talk · contr)