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Great news and thanks for the update. I just have one issue with Machiavelli - he would have only been 7 years old in 1476. I can overlook that though to work with da Vinci. --Maskim xul 15:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- The GameInformer article says the game takes place in 1476 and that you team up with Machiavelli. I had no clue that he would only be that young around that time. --Droginator1
- That is a strange flaw. I know he wont be that young due to his picture in the article, maybe one memory is in 1476, then the one with him is later? AC-42 17:11, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Upon looking in to the history of Florence round and about 1476, when Assassin's Creed II is purported to take place, there seems to be a wealth of juicy subject matter that could potentially be built into this game: that is, judging from the way history was handled in AC I. That is to point out, as Desmond observes in a conversation with Vidic, that there are some 'differences' in what we have learned to be true and what Altair experiences - first person. That's also something that Al Mualim points out to Altair - that most people don't bother to notice the difference between what we are told to be true and what we observe to be true. Presumably, the same may be said of whatever Ezio experiences.
We also have Lorenzo de Medici around at that time. Firenze or Florence is where Ezio is living and Lorenzo's turf. We may see Lorenzo in much the same fashion that we see King Richard I in AC I - in cut-out scenes - i.e., Ezio will observe and listen to him but not be able to interact. But that's okay, because there's a whole lot more going on there to sweeten the pot. History is bent already, with this aberration in Machiavelli's age. He may have been a child prodigy, but that's still too young to be giving Ezio advice in political matters. He may even serve as the AC II Al Mualim. Who knows? Afterall, he does have a bit of a reputation for being the master of manipulating people in any way possible - politically, socially, financially, etc. Even today, upper management types consider "The Prince", his most well known tome, necessary reading material. One could hope ;)
Lorenzo had some interesting allies. He also had a lot of enemies. There are two - one ally/one enemy in particular that stand out:
The ally that stands out in this period was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, Mehmet II - also known as el Fatih, the Conqueror. He's the one who conquered Constantinople and ended the Byzantine Empire. His "beloved" was none other than Radu cel Frumos...the younger brother of Vlad III Dracul. Yes, that Vlad Dracul. At one time, both of them were 'guests' in the Sultan's court, as assurance for their father's good behavior (Vlad II). Vlad III later returned home, but Radu remained behind, being groomed to one day take his older brother's place on the throne of Walachia. Mehmet II sees to it that he does just that, and Vlad III dies in 1476...coincidentally. Very possibly assassinated. An interesting thought but doesn't seem likely Ezio would be the one. Does it?
The Pazzi family wanted the Medici's gone. They wanted to rule Florence. It's called the Pazzi Conspiracy. They were aided and abetted in their schemes by the Archbishop of Pisa and his patron Pope Sixtus the Fourth. Three assassins made an attempt on the lives of Lorenzo and his brother Giuliano, attacking them as they attended mass at the cathedral. The Archbishop was lynched. All the Pazzi's were put to death, as well as the three assassins. This all happened in 1478.
There was war, too - for while Lorenzo de Medici had managed to become allied with the Ottomans, Mehmet II was attempting to conquer a large part of the rest of Italy, including Venice. He had already declared himself the "King of Rome" or "Ceasar" in the early 1460's. Venice was the richest city on the Mediterranean and controlled much of the shipping in that sea.
As for Venice, the 'other' city involved in AC II, let's look at the most powerful man there - the Doge or Duke of Venice. At this time, this position is held by Andrea Vendramin, who also dies in 1478 - perhaps from the Plague. Andrea married off his six daughters in typically politically strategic fashion and was by all accounts a very rich man. However, not all of the Council of Forty-One agreed with his election to the title and seat. He was called "a cheesemonger" and the Council remained divided during his reign. He was buried in what was considered "the most lavish funerary monument in Renaissance Venice." To his defense, he may have been chosen exactly because he and his brother had heaped up the beginnings of their family fortunes by entering into several commercial maritime ventures in their youth. He understood commerce, shipping and how to make a profit. That and he had a lot of influence in the families of his sons-in-law's families.
Will any of these other people show up in AC II? Perhaps. Fifteenth century Florence and Venice were riddled with intrigues, assassinations and various other skullduggery. Poison rings and strange elixirs were just as popular as daggers for doing away with one's enemies...but the Hidden Blades (two of them) rule. --Maskim xul 23:44, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
You know, there are some notable distortions in AC I, as well. Garnier de Naplouse (Garnier de Nablus) comes to mind. He was actually AT the Battle of Arsuf with Richard against Saladin. In fact, the Hospitalers broke ranks against Richard's direct orders to Master Garnier to hold formation. The Hospitalers charged the Saracens, because their archers were wiping the horses out from under the knights and things were getting quite intense. It was looking like their counter-attacks were toast. Garnier's surprise move was supported by Richard, who sent in troops to cover them in a moment of quick thinking. That's one for you....
Sibrand was the first Master of the Teutonic Knights, but they were a brotherhood at that point and not a full blown order.
If Majd Addin was in fact based on Baha ad-Din, serious liberties were taken with his character. It was in 1191 when Conrad of Montferrat (William V's son) became the King of Jerusalem, in which case a regent would have been a moot point. Not sure when in 1191, however. --Maskim xul 00:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Name
Hold on. Does Ezio really mean Eagle? I've ran his name through a couple translators and Ezio never came out eagle. Then I ran eagle through Italian and it came out something else. Imperialscouts 23:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think Ezio is a literal translation. The full name must come out to Eagle of Florence. Then again, I was never sure what Altair's full name meant; "Son of None" or something was one given while the other involved an eagle.
- From what I hear, "Altaïr" means "Eagle" whereas "Ibn-La'Ahad" means "son of none". − Elecbullet 04:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Is it Ezio Auditore de Firenze or di Firenze? The Wikipedia article says "di". − Elecbullet 04:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I am italian myself and Ezio doesn't mean Eagle, "Aquila" is the italian word for that. But I read on an on-line catalogue of names that Ezio probably derives from the greek world for Eagle. 84.222.239.78 17:41, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
- All right, thank you. I deleted the statement about the translation. Under "Trivia" it now explains in detail. − Elecbullet 19:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
DA Firenze
It's Ezio Auditore da Firenze. Not di Firenze. I understand the GI article says di Firenze. In the game (and in terms of proper Italian naming conventions) it's da. You are free to continue reverting my changes, but you'll inevitably be forced to accept them when the game comes out and you realize I am correct.