User talk:Toolen - Revision history

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	:: I deal with you only as I have seen you here. So far, you have not been listening, and so I am being firm. If you find this condescending, I apologize as that it is not my intention. You will be treated with respect as a human being and as you treat others; three editors of senior tenure have refuted your arguments and you have not responded with any citation that supports your claim. Until you can provide clear text that Masun is an Assassin, we must consider him not to be one. I suspect you may be right, but if it is not been confirmed in the literature, then it cannot be listed on the Wiki as such. Our rules prohibit speculation. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 06:00, November 19, 2014 (UTC)		:: I deal with you only as I have seen you here. So far, you have not been listening, and so I am being firm. If you find this condescending, I apologize as that it is not my intention. You will be treated with respect as a human being and as you treat others; three editors of senior tenure have refuted your arguments and you have not responded with any citation that supports your claim. Until you can provide clear text that Masun is an Assassin, we must consider him not to be one. I suspect you may be right, but if it is not been confirmed in the literature, then it cannot be listed on the Wiki as such. Our rules prohibit speculation. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 06:00, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

			== Images ==

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imported>DarkFeather: up

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	: Excuse me? Who do you think I am? Some punk who needs a lesson in manners? I have nothing but respect for your position as Rafiq, and I have been nothing but civil. I do not appreciate being talked down to. I may have came off as a bit harsh in my response, but that is only because of prior experience. The last time I joined a wiki, me and my associates were bullied and insulted. I was even called a Nazi, which was extremely insulting to me, as I have Jewish friends. It didn't help matters that I received no sympathy from the the moderators, who sided with the offenders and banned my friends for life. The entire experience left me bitter, and I been reluctant to trust other users since then. I expect no sympathy, but please try to understand where I'm coming from. I respect your authority, but I will not be talked down to like some ignorant buffoon. I won't be insulted or bullied again. [[User:Toolen\|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen\|talk]]) 05:50, November 19, 2014 (UTC)		: Excuse me? Who do you think I am? Some punk who needs a lesson in manners? I have nothing but respect for your position as Rafiq, and I have been nothing but civil. I do not appreciate being talked down to. I may have came off as a bit harsh in my response, but that is only because of prior experience. The last time I joined a wiki, me and my associates were bullied and insulted. I was even called a Nazi, which was extremely insulting to me, as I have Jewish friends. It didn't help matters that I received no sympathy from the the moderators, who sided with the offenders and banned my friends for life. The entire experience left me bitter, and I been reluctant to trust other users since then. I expect no sympathy, but please try to understand where I'm coming from. I respect your authority, but I will not be talked down to like some ignorant buffoon. I won't be insulted or bullied again. [[User:Toolen\|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen\|talk]]) 05:50, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

			:: I deal with you only as I have seen you here. So far, you have not been listening, and so I am being firm. If you find this condescending, I apologize as that it is not my intention. You will be treated with respect as a human being and as you treat others; three editors of senior tenure have refuted your arguments and you have not responded with any citation that supports your claim. Until you can provide clear text that Masun is an Assassin, we must consider him not to be one. I suspect you may be right, but if it is not been confirmed in the literature, then it cannot be listed on the Wiki as such. Our rules prohibit speculation. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 06:00, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

imported>Toolen: /* Stop edit warring. */

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Stop edit warring.

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	: Perhaps we were unclear or you thought we were not listening. I am a Rafiq, sir -- I am always listening. The discussion is closed: Masun is not confirmed to be an Assassin by any of the literature. Unless further revelations are released about the Levantine era, Masun will remain in this status. The discussion is closed. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 05:27, November 19, 2014 (UTC)		: Perhaps we were unclear or you thought we were not listening. I am a Rafiq, sir -- I am always listening. The discussion is closed: Masun is not confirmed to be an Assassin by any of the literature. Unless further revelations are released about the Levantine era, Masun will remain in this status. The discussion is closed. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 05:27, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

			: Excuse me? Who do you think I am? Some punk who needs a lesson in manners? I have nothing but respect for your position as Rafiq, and I have been nothing but civil. I do not appreciate being talked down to. I may have came off as a bit harsh in my response, but that is only because of prior experience. The last time I joined a wiki, me and my associates were bullied and insulted. I was even called a Nazi, which was extremely insulting to me, as I have Jewish friends. It didn't help matters that I received no sympathy from the the moderators, who sided with the offenders and banned my friends for life. The entire experience left me bitter, and I been reluctant to trust other users since then. I expect no sympathy, but please try to understand where I'm coming from. I respect your authority, but I will not be talked down to like some ignorant buffoon. I won't be insulted or bullied again. [[User:Toolen\|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen\|talk]]) 05:50, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

imported>DarkFeather: /* Stop edit warring. */

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Stop edit warring.

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	Again, my sincerest aapologies. The issue was being discussed on the talk page of the article. After providing my evidence for the change, the other editor stopped paying attention to the talk page and continued to revert my edit. Since no one was refuting my arguement, after several days I changed the article. Please excuse the issues caused by both myself and the other editor. [[User:Toolen\|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen\|talk]]) 02:05, November 19, 2014 (UTC)		Again, my sincerest aapologies. The issue was being discussed on the talk page of the article. After providing my evidence for the change, the other editor stopped paying attention to the talk page and continued to revert my edit. Since no one was refuting my arguement, after several days I changed the article. Please excuse the issues caused by both myself and the other editor. [[User:Toolen\|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen\|talk]]) 02:05, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

			: Perhaps we were unclear or you thought we were not listening. I am a Rafiq, sir -- I am always listening. The discussion is closed: Masun is not confirmed to be an Assassin by any of the literature. Unless further revelations are released about the Levantine era, Masun will remain in this status. The discussion is closed. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 05:27, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

imported>Toolen: /* Stop edit warring. */

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Stop edit warring.

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	You have been repeatedly asked not to edit war. Masun's article is only the latest. Please stop. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 01:45, November 19, 2014 (UTC)		You have been repeatedly asked not to edit war. Masun's article is only the latest. Please stop. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 01:45, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

			Again, my sincerest aapologies. The issue was being discussed on the talk page of the article. After providing my evidence for the change, the other editor stopped paying attention to the talk page and continued to revert my edit. Since no one was refuting my arguement, after several days I changed the article. Please excuse the issues caused by both myself and the other editor. [[User:Toolen\|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen\|talk]]) 02:05, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

imported>DarkFeather: /* Stop edit warring. */ new section

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	To not participate in this edit warring, I will just leave you a message. Connor is not stated to become the leader of the Assassins in the Thirteen Colonies, and it is your own assumption. Thus, it is speculation, and we cannot state it to be fact. When Connor is explicitly stated to be the next leader, then the information will be valid, but currently I'm afraid it is not. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		To not participate in this edit warring, I will just leave you a message. Connor is not stated to become the leader of the Assassins in the Thirteen Colonies, and it is your own assumption. Thus, it is speculation, and we cannot state it to be fact. When Connor is explicitly stated to be the next leader, then the information will be valid, but currently I'm afraid it is not. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

			== Stop edit warring. ==

			{{Warn1}}
			You have been repeatedly asked not to edit war. Masun's article is only the latest. Please stop. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 01:45, November 19, 2014 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Assassin leader */

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	Hello there. I have to insist you stop placing Ratonhnhaké:ton on the Assassin leader page. The Assassin leader is a position within the organization, and he is not confirmed to have been one. The fact that he "leads" his apprentices does not necessarily make him an Assassin leader. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Freestyle Script;font-size:19px;color:#7FFFD4;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:Elephant;color:#00FFFF;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 21:16, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		Hello there. I have to insist you stop placing Ratonhnhaké:ton on the Assassin leader page. The Assassin leader is a position within the organization, and he is not confirmed to have been one. The fact that he "leads" his apprentices does not necessarily make him an Assassin leader. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Freestyle Script;font-size:19px;color:#7FFFD4;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:Elephant;color:#00FFFF;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 21:16, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

	:Do we even know he has Apprentices, barring good ol' Patience? :s		:Do we even know he has Apprentices, barring good ol' Patience? :s

	:Also, I'd like to add to this that Achilles never ~~official~~ took up the mantle of leadership again after 1763. It's very likely he gave up the title, but it's not said whether he took it up again when he started training Connor. As such, saying he was the Menotr/Assassin Leader up until 1781 is speculation. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		:Also, I'd like to add to this that Achilles never officially took up the mantle of leadership again after 1763. It's very likely he gave up the title after the destruction of the Colonial Brotherhood in 1763, but it's not said whether he took it up again when he started training Connor. As such, saying he was the Menotr/Assassin Leader up until 1781 is speculation. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

	== Connor ==		== Connor ==

	To not participate in this edit warring, I will just leave you a message. Connor is not stated to become the leader of the Assassins in the Thirteen Colonies, and it is your own assumption. Thus, it is speculation, and we cannot state it to be fact. When Connor is explicitly stated to be the next leader, then the information will be valid, but currently I'm afraid it is not. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		To not participate in this edit warring, I will just leave you a message. Connor is not stated to become the leader of the Assassins in the Thirteen Colonies, and it is your own assumption. Thus, it is speculation, and we cannot state it to be fact. When Connor is explicitly stated to be the next leader, then the information will be valid, but currently I'm afraid it is not. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Connor */ new section

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	:Also, I'd like to add to this that Achilles never official took up the mantle of leadership again after 1763. It's very likely he gave up the title, but it's not said whether he took it up again when he started training Connor. As such, saying he was the Menotr/Assassin Leader up until 1781 is speculation. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		:Also, I'd like to add to this that Achilles never official took up the mantle of leadership again after 1763. It's very likely he gave up the title, but it's not said whether he took it up again when he started training Connor. As such, saying he was the Menotr/Assassin Leader up until 1781 is speculation. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

			== Connor ==

			To not participate in this edit warring, I will just leave you a message. Connor is not stated to become the leader of the Assassins in the Thirteen Colonies, and it is your own assumption. Thus, it is speculation, and we cannot state it to be fact. When Connor is explicitly stated to be the next leader, then the information will be valid, but currently I'm afraid it is not. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan at 21:19, 19 December 2013

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	Hello there. I have to insist you stop placing Ratonhnhaké:ton on the Assassin leader page. The Assassin leader is a position within the organization, and he is not confirmed to have been one. The fact that he "leads" his apprentices does not necessarily make him an Assassin leader. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Freestyle Script;font-size:19px;color:#7FFFD4;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:Elephant;color:#00FFFF;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 21:16, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		Hello there. I have to insist you stop placing Ratonhnhaké:ton on the Assassin leader page. The Assassin leader is a position within the organization, and he is not confirmed to have been one. The fact that he "leads" his apprentices does not necessarily make him an Assassin leader. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Freestyle Script;font-size:19px;color:#7FFFD4;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:Elephant;color:#00FFFF;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 21:16, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

			:Do we even know he has Apprentices, barring good ol' Patience? :s

			:Also, I'd like to add to this that Achilles never official took up the mantle of leadership again after 1763. It's very likely he gave up the title, but it's not said whether he took it up again when he started training Connor. As such, saying he was the Menotr/Assassin Leader up until 1781 is speculation. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:19, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

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	Please keep your questions to one talk page. There is no point in posting the same question to multiple pages. I'm going to revert your edit. If you undo it again, especially without a valid reason, action will be taken. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 20:40, December 19, 2013 (UTC)		Please keep your questions to one talk page. There is no point in posting the same question to multiple pages. I'm going to revert your edit. If you undo it again, especially without a valid reason, action will be taken. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 20:40, December 19, 2013 (UTC)

			==Assassin leader==
			Hello there. I have to insist you stop placing Ratonhnhaké:ton on the Assassin leader page. The Assassin leader is a position within the organization, and he is not confirmed to have been one. The fact that he "leads" his apprentices does not necessarily make him an Assassin leader. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Freestyle Script;font-size:19px;color:#7FFFD4;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:Elephant;color:#00FFFF;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 21:16, December 19, 2013 (UTC)