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	Hey Thief. She can't post here so I'm just going to thank you on her behalf and myself. She also said this. 'We were really taken aback at that time to even think about going online concerning the wiki, it was the last thing on our mind. We had a family destroyed, two little boys to be told they were never going to see their dad again. Some things are far more important. I find it very revealing about D.Cello's nature that he banned me for so long after I posted once, and yet considers it a punishment when I haven't been there in close to a year. D.Cello may have the excuses of rules to hide behind, but he chooses to hide behind them, he doesn't need to.'		Hey Thief. She can't post here so I'm just going to thank you on her behalf and myself. She also said this. 'We were really taken aback at that time to even think about going online concerning the wiki, it was the last thing on our mind. We had a family destroyed, two little boys to be told they were never going to see their dad again. Some things are far more important. I find it very revealing about D.Cello's nature that he banned me for so long after I posted once, and yet considers it a punishment when I haven't been there in close to a year. D.Cello may have the excuses of rules to hide behind, but he chooses to hide behind them, he doesn't need to.'

	Personally I don't think I should add more. There's not much point to talk about this anymore. What's done is done, so anyway thanks again. Well I've been thinking of just saying one final thing to end it once and for all. But now we'll just leave it at that, cause I saw what you posted on the staff board. Appreciate it, but I agree it was a good idea to delete it. If they don't want to talk, then there's not much point for me to talk about it any further. I think I already did too much lol~~. I'll make one final message perhaps but that will be the end of it~~. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 17:28, February 14, 2011 (UTC)		Personally I don't think I should add more. There's not much point to talk about this anymore. What's done is done, so anyway thanks again. Well I've been thinking of just saying one final thing to end it once and for all. But now we'll just leave it at that, cause I saw what you posted on the staff board. Appreciate it, but I agree it was a good idea to delete it. If they don't want to talk, then there's not much point for me to talk about it any further. I think I already did too much lol. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 17:28, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

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	My apologies to you Ced and M. Thorpe for what happened.. :\| Was not expecting this at all. I'm sorry about your loss, too. I don't know what to say.. --[[User:ThiefAC\|'''<span style="font-family:Agency"><font color="#000080"></font><font color="#000080"><big>T</big></font><font color="#0b0076">H</font><font color="#15006c">I</font><font color="#200062">E</font><font color="#2b0059">F</font></span>''']] 04:58, February 14, 2011 (UTC)		My apologies to you Ced and M. Thorpe for what happened.. :\| Was not expecting this at all. I'm sorry about your loss, too. I don't know what to say.. --[[User:ThiefAC\|'''<span style="font-family:Agency"><font color="#000080"></font><font color="#000080"><big>T</big></font><font color="#0b0076">H</font><font color="#15006c">I</font><font color="#200062">E</font><font color="#2b0059">F</font></span>''']] 04:58, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

			Hey Thief. She can't post here so I'm just going to thank you on her behalf and myself. She also said this. 'We were really taken aback at that time to even think about going online concerning the wiki, it was the last thing on our mind. We had a family destroyed, two little boys to be told they were never going to see their dad again. Some things are far more important. I find it very revealing about D.Cello's nature that he banned me for so long after I posted once, and yet considers it a punishment when I haven't been there in close to a year. D.Cello may have the excuses of rules to hide behind, but he chooses to hide behind them, he doesn't need to.'

			Personally I don't think I should add more. There's not much point to talk about this anymore. What's done is done, so anyway thanks again. Well I've been thinking of just saying one final thing to end it once and for all. But now we'll just leave it at that, cause I saw what you posted on the staff board. Appreciate it, but I agree it was a good idea to delete it. If they don't want to talk, then there's not much point for me to talk about it any further. I think I already did too much lol. I'll make one final message perhaps but that will be the end of it. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 17:28, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

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			My apologies to you Ced and M. Thorpe for what happened.. :\| Was not expecting this at all. I'm sorry about your loss, too. I don't know what to say.. --[[User:ThiefAC\|'''<span style="font-family:Agency"><font color="#000080"></font><font color="#000080"><big>T</big></font><font color="#0b0076">H</font><font color="#15006c">I</font><font color="#200062">E</font><font color="#2b0059">F</font></span>''']] 04:58, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

imported>Altaïr: Had to correct something as I meant the opposite. Sorry if this created a misunderstanding.

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	::Hey hey, don't drag me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::Hey hey, don't drag me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	:::That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only ~~mentionned~~ you because that is what happened. ~~It was not me~~ and ~~you who talked~~ in a civil manner ~~about this~~, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:::That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentioned you because that is what happened. I actually thought that you and I at least had the opportunity to talk in a civil manner, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning, until then things erupted afterwards. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

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	::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
			:::::Okay, thx for pointing that out.-- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:35, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted */

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	:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	::Hey hey, don't ~~draw~~ me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::Hey hey, don't drag me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	::: That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentionned you because that is what happened. It was not me and you who talked in a civil manner about this, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:::That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentionned you because that is what happened. It was not me and you who talked in a civil manner about this, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

			::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

imported>Altaïr: /* Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted */

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	::Hey hey, don't draw me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::Hey hey, don't draw me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

			::: That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentionned you because that is what happened. It was not me and you who talked in a civil manner about this, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted */

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	According to rule 2 of the board, you now temporarily blocked for 3 days. (this is applied to any non-staff member)<br />I'm really sorry for your loss. I didn't come here to argue, just to explain the point of view: any admin who really cares about the wiki would stand down from his post if he knew it would take a lot fo time to come back. Al always answered his messages, so he could have took a minute steped down and had his rank restored when and if he returned, but he didn't. He had duties here, he choosed to uphold them, so it was his responsability to step back if he wasn't able to fulfil them. I did what was necessary, and his reaction to my message made members of the staff classify him as "selfish" for it. Our lifes always come before the internet, but who works on the wiki does it for love and care about it, cause it is a part of our lives as much as school or job, cause so we choose. Hope this clarifies thing a bit. =] -- [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:D._Cello D. Cello] 20:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		According to rule 2 of the board, you now temporarily blocked for 3 days. (this is applied to any non-staff member)<br />I'm really sorry for your loss. I didn't come here to argue, just to explain the point of view: any admin who really cares about the wiki would stand down from his post if he knew it would take a lot fo time to come back. Al always answered his messages, so he could have took a minute steped down and had his rank restored when and if he returned, but he didn't. He had duties here, he choosed to uphold them, so it was his responsability to step back if he wasn't able to fulfil them. I did what was necessary, and his reaction to my message made members of the staff classify him as "selfish" for it. Our lifes always come before the internet, but who works on the wiki does it for love and care about it, cause it is a part of our lives as much as school or job, cause so we choose. Hope this clarifies thing a bit. =] -- [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:D._Cello D. Cello] 20:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
	:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

			::Hey hey, don't draw me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted */

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	According to rule 2 of the board, you now temporarily blocked for 3 days. (this is applied to any non-staff member)<br>I'm really sorry for your loss. I didn't come here to argue, just to explain the point of view: any admin who really cares about the wiki would stand down from his post if he knew it would take a lot fo time to come back. Al always answered his messages, so he could have took a minute steped down and had his rank restored when and if he returned, but he didn't. He had duties here, he choosed to uphold them, so it was his responsability to step back if he wasn't able to fulfil them. I did what was necessary, and his reaction to my message made members of the staff classify him as "selfish" for it. Our lifes always come before the internet, but who works on the wiki does it for love and care about it, cause it is a part of our lives as much as school or job, cause so we choose. Hope this clarifies thing a bit. =] -- [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:D._Cello D. Cello] 20:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		According to rule 2 of the board, you now temporarily blocked for 3 days. (this is applied to any non-staff member)<br />I'm really sorry for your loss. I didn't come here to argue, just to explain the point of view: any admin who really cares about the wiki would stand down from his post if he knew it would take a lot fo time to come back. Al always answered his messages, so he could have took a minute steped down and had his rank restored when and if he returned, but he didn't. He had duties here, he choosed to uphold them, so it was his responsability to step back if he wasn't able to fulfil them. I did what was necessary, and his reaction to my message made members of the staff classify him as "selfish" for it. Our lifes always come before the internet, but who works on the wiki does it for love and care about it, cause it is a part of our lives as much as school or job, cause so we choose. Hope this clarifies thing a bit. =] -- [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:D._Cello D. Cello] 20:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
	:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

imported>Altaïr: /* Nothing Is True Everything Is Permitted */

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	According to rule 2 of the board, you now temporarily blocked for 3 days. (this is applied to any non-staff member)<br>I'm really sorry for your loss. I didn't come here to argue, just to explain the point of view: any admin who really cares about the wiki would stand down from his post if he knew it would take a lot fo time to come back. Al always answered his messages, so he could have took a minute steped down and had his rank restored when and if he returned, but he didn't. He had duties here, he choosed to uphold them, so it was his responsability to step back if he wasn't able to fulfil them. I did what was necessary, and his reaction to my message made members of the staff classify him as "selfish" for it. Our lifes always come before the internet, but who works on the wiki does it for love and care about it, cause it is a part of our lives as much as school or job, cause so we choose. Hope this clarifies thing a bit. =] -- [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:D._Cello D. Cello] 20:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		According to rule 2 of the board, you now temporarily blocked for 3 days. (this is applied to any non-staff member)<br>I'm really sorry for your loss. I didn't come here to argue, just to explain the point of view: any admin who really cares about the wiki would stand down from his post if he knew it would take a lot fo time to come back. Al always answered his messages, so he could have took a minute steped down and had his rank restored when and if he returned, but he didn't. He had duties here, he choosed to uphold them, so it was his responsability to step back if he wasn't able to fulfil them. I did what was necessary, and his reaction to my message made members of the staff classify him as "selfish" for it. Our lifes always come before the internet, but who works on the wiki does it for love and care about it, cause it is a part of our lives as much as school or job, cause so we choose. Hope this clarifies thing a bit. =] -- [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User:D._Cello D. Cello] 20:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
			:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

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	::Hey hey, don't drag me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::Hey hey, don't drag me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	:::That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only ~~mentionned~~ you because that is what happened. ~~It was not me~~ and ~~you who talked~~ in a civil manner ~~about this~~, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:::That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentioned you because that is what happened. I actually thought that you and I at least had the opportunity to talk in a civil manner, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning, until then things erupted afterwards. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

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	:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:Well I can say the same about you, D.Cello. It would have taken you one minute to ask me to step down, just as you say it would just take a minute for me to decide for myself to step down. Cause seriously I was in doubt if I had to. Nobody made it any clear, not you or Master Sima. We talked about it, but that's it. So again would it have been too demanding to talk to me in person and ask me retire? Or do you consider yourself too important to do so? -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:18, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	::Hey hey, don't ~~draw~~ me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		::Hey hey, don't drag me into this. I would've explained it to you... if this whole thing didn't seem so vague for me as well. I did agree upon having you demoted, but not the way it did. Cello made the decision by himself before I could get the chance to engage in a discussion with him on this subject. I'm not so sure what all happened after that. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

	::: That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentionned you because that is what happened. It was not me and you who talked in a civil manner about this, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)		:::That was not my intention Master Sima. No, don't get me wrong. I only mentionned you because that is what happened. It was not me and you who talked in a civil manner about this, before I suddenly had to read for myself that I got demoted without any warning. D.Cello said that he sent you to do his bidding, that is what he said himself. So I'm not saying you had any blame into this. I actually believe you shouldn't have been involved in the first place, cause like I said, I think D.Cello could have at least have the decency then to talk to me back then. But that's just my opinion. -- [[user:Altaïr\|Altaïr]] 22:28, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

			::::Just want to point out that I wasn't doing his bidding. I will never do someone's bidding. It was my own suggestion to check on your situation, so I did it myself. Cello knows this as well, he never '''told''' me to do it. And he had no reason to say that I was. -- [[User:Master Sima Yi\|Master Sima Yi]] 22:33, February 13, 2011 (UTC)