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	==Followers of Romulus==		==Followers of Romulus==
	My bad. Just read 'followers' as in 'people who were members of the cult' and not 'all things related to Followers of Romulus'. Don't you just love brain farts? :D [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 17:05, March 4, 2019 (UTC)		My bad. Just read 'followers' as in 'people who were members of the cult' and not 'all things related to Followers of Romulus'. Don't you just love brain farts? :D [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 17:05, March 4, 2019 (UTC)
	:No problem. We are moving towards 'members of _____' for the actual individuals while the organization category is now broader mainly to include locations but also other concepts or items. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 17:08, March 4, 2019 (UTC)		:No problem. We are moving towards 'members of _____' for the actual individuals while the organization category is now broader mainly to include locations but also other concepts or items. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 17:08, March 4, 2019 (UTC)
	::Figured as much. Thanks for ascertaining that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 17:13, March 4, 2019 (UTC)		::Figured as much. Thanks for ascertaining that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 17:13, March 4, 2019 (UTC)

	==Pausanias in the novel==		==Pausanias in the novel==
	Does the novel confirm Pausanias' year of death, and his pseudonym 'Red-Eyed Lion'? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 10:07, March 8, 2019 (UTC)		Does the novel confirm Pausanias' year of death, and his pseudonym 'Red-Eyed Lion'? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 10:07, March 8, 2019 (UTC)

	== Referring to Kassandra as a Spartan ==		== Referring to Kassandra as a Spartan ==

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	:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	Unrelated to Discovery Tour, and in light of new Valley info, I've another question for you. If Basim is "ibn Ishaq" and Ishaq is "ibn Khalid", then Nimlot ("نميلوت"?) would be "ibn Mas'ood", yes? I had briefly thought that he would be "Nimlot al-Mas'ood", like how Mas'ood is "al-Ya'qoob", except it doesn't fit with what I recall of ''nasabs'' and WP says "al-" is instead the Arabic definite article. Slightly related, would his father's name roughly be rendered as "مسعود يعقوب" for his page? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 18:56, 24 November 2025 (UTC)		Unrelated to Discovery Tour, and in light of new Valley info, I've another question for you. If Basim is "ibn Ishaq" and Ishaq is "ibn Khalid", then Nimlot ("نميلوت"?) would be "ibn Mas'ood", yes? I had briefly thought that he would be "Nimlot al-Mas'ood", like how Mas'ood is "al-Ya'qoob", except it doesn't fit with what I recall of ''nasabs'' and WP says "al-" is instead the Arabic definite article. Slightly related, would his father's name roughly be rendered as "مسعود يعقوب" for his page? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 18:56, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

			== Message reports ==
			Hi Lacrossedeamon, I wanted to reach out about some reports we've received regarding your interactions in Discussions. A few users have flagged with Fandom that some of your messages come across as dismissive or condescending, which isn't the tone we'd expect from a moderator. As an example, [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000139548/r/4400000000000356597 a recent comment] was reported as mocking another user - going forward, please keep your interactions respectful. If you have questions or want to discuss this, feel free to reach out. –[[User:ReverieCode\|ReverieCode]] <staff/> 16:05, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

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	::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			Unrelated to Discovery Tour, and in light of new Valley info, I've another question for you. If Basim is "ibn Ishaq" and Ishaq is "ibn Khalid", then Nimlot ("نميلوت"?) would be "ibn Mas'ood", yes? I had briefly thought that he would be "Nimlot al-Mas'ood", like how Mas'ood is "al-Ya'qoob", except it doesn't fit with what I recall of ''nasabs'' and WP says "al-" is instead the Arabic definite article. Slightly related, would his father's name roughly be rendered as "مسعود يعقوب" for his page? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 18:56, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note, the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note, the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
	::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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	Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, ~~it's~~ the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note, the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian Sign, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian Sign, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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	Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect it's the dog stars. What made you ~~decide to~~ study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

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	Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
			::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect it's the dog stars. What made you decide to study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

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	Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
			:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)

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	::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			Unrelated to Discovery Tour, and in light of new Valley info, I've another question for you. If Basim is "ibn Ishaq" and Ishaq is "ibn Khalid", then Nimlot ("نميلوت"?) would be "ibn Mas'ood", yes? I had briefly thought that he would be "Nimlot al-Mas'ood", like how Mas'ood is "al-Ya'qoob", except it doesn't fit with what I recall of ''nasabs'' and WP says "al-" is instead the Arabic definite article. Slightly related, would his father's name roughly be rendered as "مسعود يعقوب" for his page? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 18:56, 24 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note, the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note, the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
	::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::::I've also got other stuff I am trying to focus on so if you have an idea of how you want to add this all to the page I'll let you take point. For the English I used [https://www.atlascoelestis.com/Zagrebelsky/28854_Hafez_2010_Chapters_1_to_4_thesis.pdf this thesis] which is an analysis and partial translation of [https://digital.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/objects/c1caa84c-f6d2-483f-9eb4-2439cccdc801/ this specific manuscript]. However the actual diagrams used in [[Aligning the Stars]] are pulled from [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/446297 this manuscript] instead. Also note that while the constellations were well known before 'Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's time his actual book is like 100+ years after when this memory is set. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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	Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		Seeing as you know Arabic, I noticed that the dog constellation image for the memory "Aligning the Stars" has some script in it that the bird seems to lack. Is it legible enough for you to read, and if so, what does it say? Unlike the Arabic calligraphy for the Mirage skill tree animals, I highly doubt Ubisoft will have reason to comment on this. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 03:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, ~~it's~~ the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note, the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::DAMN, that is a great find. Between some other things I have to do over weekend, I'll try(?) to look up these sources so I can add this to the memory page, unless you want to instead seeing as you found the info. I was just generally inquisitive about it, but your detailed reply above makes me think it warrants being in BTS. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 16:55, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian Sign, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian/left/north Sign/Shiner, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) "the girdle/herald" as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)		:The star at the withers is labeled المرزم (al-Mirzam) which is the name for Beta Canis Major. The star at the haunch is labeled الشعرى (ash-Shi‘rā) which is Sirius or Alpha Canis Major. I can't read what comes after that word though but I have some people I can ask. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 04:15, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
	::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)		::Cool! Makes sense in retrospect, it's the dog stars. What made you study Arabic? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 04:55, 31 October 2025 (UTC)<br><br>Any word from your contacts about the missing word(s)? – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 06:55, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::Better. Found someone who did their PhD dissertation on translating Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi's Book of the Fixed Stars. So the star labeled alif/1 is also noted as الشعرى الشامية وهى الغميصاء (al-Shi'ra al-Shāmīya wahaa al-Ghumaiṣa) which technically translate to "The Syrian Sign, also known as the Bleary-eyed (woman)" which here both refer to Procyon because I was wrong and this is actually Canis Minor, not Canis Major; ba/2 is المرزم (al-Mirzam) as I previously stated (both constellations have a star with that name). I also noticed on the constellation of Aquila at the star labeled dal/4 they also have written upside down/backwards النسر الطائر (al-Nasr al-Ṭā'er) meaning the "the flying eagle" which is the Arabic name for the Alpha Aquilae/Altair. For note the translated version I found was based on MS Marsh 144 at the Bodleian Library while the game uses images taken from 13.160.10 at the Met. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 05:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)