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	Jack, can you please be mindful of your tense usage? I have had to correct it on every last edit you have ever done, and it seems to me like you're not making any effort to use proper tense at all. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 10:38, July 9, 2017 (UTC)		Jack, can you please be mindful of your tense usage? I have had to correct it on every last edit you have ever done, and it seems to me like you're not making any effort to use proper tense at all. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 10:38, July 9, 2017 (UTC)
			:Here's a summary because I understand it can be confusing.
			#Always be mindful of whether you're writing from an in-universe (IU) perspective or an out-of-universe (OOU) perspective.
			#If you're writing from an IU-perspective, use the ''historical past tense''. Write as though you are in the ''Assassin's Creed'' universe in its present day, such that anything in the past should be written as in the past and anything that still exists in the current time in the series should be written in the present. If you're writing from an OOU-perspective, use the ''literary present tense''.
			#As a general rule, the body and introduction uses IU-perspective. The Trivia section usually uses OOU-perspective because you're writing about the game from a real-life perspective, especially if you're commenting on gameplay. This means that trivia should almost always be written in the ''present tense'', not the past tense or in the conditional mood.
			#As a basic guideline, any time you refer to the game's title, this means you're writing from an OOU-perspective, from a real-life perspective, and should be using the ''present tense''. The exception is if the real-life point you're making isn't about gameplay or the game's story elements, such as things like development of the game or what an actor did.
			#You might get confused because a lot of articles have it wrong, so you will see past tense being used in the trivia section when that's not correct. Ignore these. They're wrong.
			#In uncommon occasions in the Trivia section, you ''may'' use the past tense if you're presenting a trivia point from an IU-perspective, hence why you might sometimes encounter a sentence in the past tense in the Trivia section. Do not be thrown off by this.
			:Let me know if you have any questions. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 11:10, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

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	Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']]</nowiki> instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:34, June 29, 2017 (UTC)		Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']]</nowiki> instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:34, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

	Jack, can you please be mindful of your tense usage? I have to correct it on every last edit you have ever done, and it seems to me like you're not making any effort to use proper tense at all. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 10:38, July 9, 2017 (UTC)		Jack, can you please be mindful of your tense usage? I have had to correct it on every last edit you have ever done, and it seems to me like you're not making any effort to use proper tense at all. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 10:38, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Trivia edits */

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	Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']]</nowiki> instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:34, June 29, 2017 (UTC)		Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']]</nowiki> instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:34, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

			Jack, can you please be mindful of your tense usage? I have to correct it on every last edit you have ever done, and it seems to me like you're not making any effort to use proper tense at all. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 10:38, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

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	Jack, whenever you italicize a term with the dual apostrophes (<nowiki>''</nowiki>), the ending apostrophes goes immediately after the term without any spaces and before any punctuation. e.g. <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed''</nowiki> not <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed, ''</nowiki> as I keep seeing or <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed ''</nowiki>. There is no exception to this even if the result might appear the same. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:28, June 2, 2017 (UTC)		Jack, whenever you italicize a term with the dual apostrophes (<nowiki>''</nowiki>), the ending apostrophes goes immediately after the term without any spaces and before any punctuation. e.g. <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed''</nowiki> not <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed, ''</nowiki> as I keep seeing or <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed ''</nowiki>. There is no exception to this even if the result might appear the same. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:28, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

	Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']] instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. ~~~~~~~~		Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']]</nowiki> instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:34, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

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	Jack, whenever you italicize a term with the dual apostrophes (<nowiki>''</nowiki>), the ending apostrophes goes immediately after the term without any spaces and before any punctuation. e.g. <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed''</nowiki> not <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed, ''</nowiki> as I keep seeing or <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed ''</nowiki>. There is no exception to this even if the result might appear the same. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:28, June 2, 2017 (UTC)		Jack, whenever you italicize a term with the dual apostrophes (<nowiki>''</nowiki>), the ending apostrophes goes immediately after the term without any spaces and before any punctuation. e.g. <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed''</nowiki> not <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed, ''</nowiki> as I keep seeing or <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed ''</nowiki>. There is no exception to this even if the result might appear the same. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:28, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

			Also, when you're italicizing a linked name, all you have to do is to put the apostrophes ''around'' the linking brackets. For example: <nowiki>''[[Assassin's Creed]]''</nowiki> for ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''. I keep seeing you type <nowiki>[[Assassin's Creed\|''Assassin's Creed'']] instead which while yielding the same result, is sloppy and incorrect formatting. ~~~~

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	:For starters, whenever you post a message, remember to sign it at the end with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Are you still having trouble understanding when to use past tense and when to use present tense in your writing in the Trivia section? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 01:03, April 28, 2017 (UTC)		:For starters, whenever you post a message, remember to sign it at the end with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Are you still having trouble understanding when to use past tense and when to use present tense in your writing in the Trivia section? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 01:03, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

			Jack, whenever you italicize a term with the dual apostrophes (<nowiki>''</nowiki>), the ending apostrophes goes immediately after the term without any spaces and before any punctuation. e.g. <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed''</nowiki> not <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed, ''</nowiki> as I keep seeing or <nowiki>''Assassin's Creed ''</nowiki>. There is no exception to this even if the result might appear the same. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:28, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

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	My point is that I'd be grateful if you redirect your zeal towards edits that would benefit articles more and to be more mindful of the trivia points that you are adding, to think about whether your points really are substantial and worth noting. It doesn't help that your consistency with grammar and tense hasn't exactly improved after my first message above. I'm hesitant to prejudge that you haven't really made an effort to pay attention to that at all. If you need more advice and assistance with that, you can talk to me, but admittedly, after going through dozens of edits everyday which do not really contribute to the articles and which are loaded with errors, you are only creating more work for us to do rather than easing it. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 16:08, April 27, 2017 (UTC)		My point is that I'd be grateful if you redirect your zeal towards edits that would benefit articles more and to be more mindful of the trivia points that you are adding, to think about whether your points really are substantial and worth noting. It doesn't help that your consistency with grammar and tense hasn't exactly improved after my first message above. I'm hesitant to prejudge that you haven't really made an effort to pay attention to that at all. If you need more advice and assistance with that, you can talk to me, but admittedly, after going through dozens of edits everyday which do not really contribute to the articles and which are loaded with errors, you are only creating more work for us to do rather than easing it. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 16:08, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
			:I was just thinking over this, and truth is, this wiki could benefit from new users. I suppose maybe it is wrong of me to be impatient with you given that you're new here, so pardon me for that. I would reaffirm that I don't think adding to trivia is the most valuable of edits you can be making, and it's hard for me to imagine what excuse you have for not paying closer attention to format and grammar, but all the same, if you are eager to contribute in whatever way you feel is most comfortable for you in this wiki, then I shouldn't hinder you. You are right, we should work in tandem, and I will be more patient in correcting your mistakes and guiding you to be more accustomed to the policies here.

			:For starters, whenever you post a message, remember to sign it at the end with four tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Are you still having trouble understanding when to use past tense and when to use present tense in your writing in the Trivia section? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 01:03, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

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	I appreciate your enthusiasm as a newcomer here, but I have to be honest with you, a slew of constant edits to trivia sections isn't particularly helpful to this wiki. There's a reason why some wikis ban trivia sections altogether, and that is because they can lead to lists of random facts of dubious significance being piled up, all in a disorganized fashion. While we do allow trivia here at ''Assassin's Creed'' wiki, it still stands that it'd be an issue for moot points, any that you can find, to be haphazardly added to articles. These past few days, I have had to go through every last one of them, correcting virtually every one. Sure, there are a few trivia points that I agree might be helpful, but more often than not, I've had to undo a whole lot of them.		I appreciate your enthusiasm as a newcomer here, but I have to be honest with you, a slew of constant edits to trivia sections isn't particularly helpful to this wiki. There's a reason why some wikis ban trivia sections altogether, and that is because they can lead to lists of random facts of dubious significance being piled up, all in a disorganized fashion. While we do allow trivia here at ''Assassin's Creed'' wiki, it still stands that it'd be an issue for moot points, any that you can find, to be haphazardly added to articles. These past few days, I have had to go through every last one of them, correcting virtually every one. Sure, there are a few trivia points that I agree might be helpful, but more often than not, I've had to undo a whole lot of them.

	My point is that I'd be grateful if you redirect your zeal towards edits that would benefit articles more and to me more mindful of the trivia points that you are adding, to think about whether your points really are substantial and worth noting. It doesn't help that your consistency with grammar and tense hasn't exactly improved after my first message above. I'm hesitant to prejudge that you haven't really made an effort to pay attention to that at all. If you need more advice and assistance with that, you can talk to me, but admittedly, after going through dozens of edits everyday which do not really contribute to the articles and which are loaded with errors, you are only creating more work for us to do rather than easing it. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 16:08, April 27, 2017 (UTC)		My point is that I'd be grateful if you redirect your zeal towards edits that would benefit articles more and to be more mindful of the trivia points that you are adding, to think about whether your points really are substantial and worth noting. It doesn't help that your consistency with grammar and tense hasn't exactly improved after my first message above. I'm hesitant to prejudge that you haven't really made an effort to pay attention to that at all. If you need more advice and assistance with that, you can talk to me, but admittedly, after going through dozens of edits everyday which do not really contribute to the articles and which are loaded with errors, you are only creating more work for us to do rather than easing it. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 16:08, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

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	While I'm at it, remember to italicize the titles of all works when you name them. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:02, April 20, 2017 (UTC)		While I'm at it, remember to italicize the titles of all works when you name them. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 12:02, April 20, 2017 (UTC)

			== Trivia edits ==

			Hey Jack,

			I appreciate your enthusiasm as a newcomer here, but I have to be honest with you, a slew of constant edits to trivia sections isn't particularly helpful to this wiki. There's a reason why some wikis ban trivia sections altogether, and that is because they can lead to lists of random facts of dubious significance being piled up, all in a disorganized fashion. While we do allow trivia here at ''Assassin's Creed'' wiki, it still stands that it'd be an issue for moot points, any that you can find, to be haphazardly added to articles. These past few days, I have had to go through every last one of them, correcting virtually every one. Sure, there are a few trivia points that I agree might be helpful, but more often than not, I've had to undo a whole lot of them.

			My point is that I'd be grateful if you redirect your zeal towards edits that would benefit articles more and to me more mindful of the trivia points that you are adding, to think about whether your points really are substantial and worth noting. It doesn't help that your consistency with grammar and tense hasn't exactly improved after my first message above. I'm hesitant to prejudge that you haven't really made an effort to pay attention to that at all. If you need more advice and assistance with that, you can talk to me, but admittedly, after going through dozens of edits everyday which do not really contribute to the articles and which are loaded with errors, you are only creating more work for us to do rather than easing it. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 16:08, April 27, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: Created page with "{{Welcome}} ==Tense== Hello Jackdawvsaquila :), I noticed that you have been editing the Trivia sections of various articles, and I'm not entirely sure yet whether you know ..."

2017-04-20T12:02:55Z

Created page with "{{Welcome}} ==Tense== Hello Jackdawvsaquila :), I noticed that you have been editing the Trivia sections of various articles, and I'm not entirely sure yet whether you know ..."

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{{Welcome}}

==Tense==
Hello Jackdawvsaquila :),

I noticed that you have been editing the Trivia sections of various articles, and I'm not entirely sure yet whether you know our policy around tense since your edits don't seem to be very consistent about it. If you have since figured it out, that's great, but in case you didn't, we use the historical past tense for the main sections of most articles because we write them from an in-universe perspective—in other words, as though we live in the ''Assassin's Creed'' world and these things actually happened and are happening. However, when it comes to Trivia sections (functionally a "Behind the scenes" section), generally we use the [https://revelle.ucsd.edu/humanities/writing-info/writing-skills/literary-present.html literary present tense] instead since we're writing about the game, its mechanics, and its peculiarities which means we are treating the series and its contents as what it is actually in real-life, a fictional game, not historical events. Hope this helps, and sorry if it was totally unnecessary. :P

While I'm at it, remember to italicize the titles of all works when you name them. [[User:Sol Pacificus|'''Sol Pacificus''']][[User talk:Sol Pacificus|(Cyfiero)]] 12:02, April 20, 2017 (UTC)