Tough Love - Revision history

imported>SweetAngelCer at 03:58, 16 February 2025

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	Kassandra agreed to help Mikkos investigate what was wrong with Neleus.		Kassandra agreed to help Mikkos investigate what was wrong with Neleus.
	==Trivia==		==Trivia==
	The advice that Kassandra gives Barnabas about Neleus has a decisive influence on the outcome of the entire quest line. If the player choses to tell Barnabas that "Neleus needs tough love", then both Neleus and Mikkos will not survive [[Retribution]].
			* The advice that Kassandra gives Barnabas about Neleus has a decisive influence on the outcome of the entire quest line. If the player choses to tell Barnabas that "Neleus needs tough love", then both Neleus and Mikkos will not survive [[Retribution]].

	==Behind the scenes==		==Behind the scenes==

imported>Kennyannydenny: /* Description */ -space

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Description: -space

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	==Description==		==Description==
	Kassandra met with [[Mikkos]] north of [[Myrina]] in [[Lemnos]] .		Kassandra met with [[Mikkos]] north of [[Myrina]] in [[Lemnos]].

	==Dialogue==		==Dialogue==

imported>Altaire13: /* Trivia */ Describe effect of the dialog choice on the quest line.

2020-09-06T02:38:12Z

Trivia: Describe effect of the dialog choice on the quest line.

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	==Outcome==		==Outcome==
	Kassandra agreed to help Mikkos investigate what was wrong with Neleus.		Kassandra agreed to help Mikkos investigate what was wrong with Neleus.
			==Trivia==
			The advice that Kassandra gives Barnabas about Neleus has a decisive influence on the outcome of the entire quest line. If the player choses to tell Barnabas that "Neleus needs tough love", then both Neleus and Mikkos will not survive [[Retribution]].

	==Behind the scenes==		==Behind the scenes==

imported>Felice Enellen: /* Behind the scenes */ a little fun with some quest kludgery they apparently did

2020-09-05T11:26:53Z

Behind the scenes: a little fun with some quest kludgery they apparently did

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	==Outcome==		==Outcome==
	Kassandra agreed to help Mikkos investigate what was wrong with Neleus.		Kassandra agreed to help Mikkos investigate what was wrong with Neleus.

			==Behind the scenes==
			* [[File:TheTwoBarnabases.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|alt=Quest Barnabas coaxed down to the dock for a group photo with Real Barnabas.\|The two Barnabases]] After Kassandra sailed to Mikkos' dock and walked up the path to speak with Barnabas and Mikkos in Mikkos' house, she left the house and looked down the cliffside at the Adrestia, only to see that Barnabas was not just standing behind her in the house, but also on the deck of the ship below. Strangely, Kassandra made no comment on this disturbing discovery.

	==References==		==References==

imported>Gayngel19 at 06:46, 23 June 2020

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	==Description==		==Description==
	Kassandra met with [[Mikkos]] north of [[Myrina]] in [[~~Thasos~~]].		Kassandra met with [[Mikkos]] north of [[Myrina]] in [[Lemnos]] .

	==Dialogue==		==Dialogue==
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	*'''Barnabas:''' ''What goes on across Thasos is not my concern. But I know my nephew. Ah, yes. He practically ''worships'' at the altar of [[Aergia]]. A devotee of sloth and idleness, he is.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''What goes on across Thasos is not my concern. But I know my nephew. Ah, yes. He practically ''worships'' at the altar of [[Aergia]]. A devotee of sloth and idleness, he is.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Help me talk sense into him, ''misthios.		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Help me talk sense into him, ''misthios.

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|Neleus needs tough love.=		\|-\|Neleus needs tough love.=
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	Mikkos relaxed.		Mikkos relaxed.
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''You know, it's not often a beautiful and capable misthios comes to this house.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''You know, it's not often a beautiful and capable misthios comes to this house.''

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|Flirt – Must have been the Fates.=		\|-\|Flirt – Must have been the Fates.=
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	(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)		(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=		\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=

imported>Lady Kyashira at 06:38, 27 October 2019

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imported>Lady Kyashira at 05:39, 11 August 2019

2019-08-11T05:39:49Z

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	\| source = [[Kassandra]]		\| source = [[Kassandra]]
	\| location = [[Lemnos]], [[Greece]]<br />[[Thasos]], Greece		\| location = [[Lemnos]], [[Greece]]<br />[[Thasos]], Greece
	\| date = 429 BCE}}		\| date = c. 429 BCE}}
	'''Tough Love''' was a virtual representation of one of [[Kassandra]]'s genetic memories, relived by [[Layla Hassan]] through the Portable [[Animus\|Animus HR-8.5]].		'''Tough Love''' was a virtual representation of one of [[Kassandra]]'s genetic memories, relived by [[Layla Hassan]] through the Portable [[Animus\|Animus HR-8.5]].

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	*'''Barnabas:''' ''What goes on across Thasos is not my concern. But I know my nephew. Ah, yes. He practically ''worships'' at the altar of [[Aergia]]. A devotee of sloth and idleness, he is.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''What goes on across Thasos is not my concern. But I know my nephew. Ah, yes. He practically ''worships'' at the altar of [[Aergia]]. A devotee of sloth and idleness, he is.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Help me talk sense into him, ''misthios.		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Help me talk sense into him, ''misthios.

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|Neleus needs tough love.=		\|-\|Neleus needs tough love.=
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	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Come on Barnabas, he's plainly ill.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Come on Barnabas, he's plainly ill.''
	*'''Barnabas:''' ''Bah! I'll be at the ship when Neleus snaps out of it.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''Bah! I'll be at the ship when Neleus snaps out of it.''

	\|-\|Try a gentle approach.=		\|-\|Try a gentle approach.=
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''Maybe you should be a bit easier on your nephew this time. He really does seem sick.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''Maybe you should be a bit easier on your nephew this time. He really does seem sick.''
	Barnabas shook his head sadly as Neleus groaned again.		Barnabas shook his head sadly as Neleus groaned again.
	*'''Barnabas:''' ''Ah, you're right. I–I guess I didn't want it to be true. He's not a boy anymore, I can see that.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''Ah, you're right. I–I guess I didn't want it to be true. He's not a boy anymore, I can see that.''

	*'''Mikkos:''' ''He may be grown, but he still needs help.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''He may be grown, but he still needs help.''
	*'''Barnabas:''' ''There's only one way I know how.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''There's only one way I know how.''
	Barnabas walked out of the house, pausing at the door only to give Kassandra and Mikkos his parting instructions.		Barnabas walked out of the house, pausing at the door only to give Kassandra and Mikkos his parting instructions.

	*'''Barnabas:''' ''Let me know if there is any change in his condition. I'll be at the ship making offerings to Asklepios.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''Let me know if there is any change in his condition. I'll be at the ship making offerings to Asklepios.''
	</tabber>		</tabber>
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	Mikkos relaxed.		Mikkos relaxed.
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''You know, it's not often a beautiful and capable misthios comes to this house.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''You know, it's not often a beautiful and capable misthios comes to this house.''

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|Flirt – Must have been the Fates.=		\|-\|Flirt – Must have been the Fates.=
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	*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll follow up on these leads and check back when I know what's going on.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll follow up on these leads and check back when I know what's going on.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you, ''misthios''. And feel free to "check back" any time.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you, ''misthios''. And feel free to "check back" any time.''


	(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)		(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)
	*'''Mikkos''': ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''		*'''Mikkos''': ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=		\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=
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	*'''Kassandra:''' ''I have some questions.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''I have some questions.''
	</tabber>		</tabber>

	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Is there anything I can do to help?''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Is there anything I can do to help?''
	(goes back to the questions above)		(goes back to the questions above)





	==Outcome==		==Outcome==

imported>Sbza45: Expanded

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	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you.''
	Mikkos relaxed.		Mikkos relaxed.
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''You know, it's not often a beautiful and capable ''misthios'' comes to this house.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''You know, it's not often a beautiful and capable misthios comes to this house.''

	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|Flirt – Must have been the Fates.=		\|-\|Flirt – Must have been the Fates.=
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''They may have brought Neleus sickness, but the [[Fates]] ''have'' brought us together...''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''They may have brought Neleus sickness, but the [[Fates]] have brought us together...''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''I'd hate to get sick someday and think of all the fun I didn't have.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''I'd hate to get sick someday and think of all the fun I didn't have.''
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''But first, there are those leads you mentioned.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''But first, there are those leads you mentioned.''
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	*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll follow up on these leads and check back when I know what's going on.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll follow up on these leads and check back when I know what's going on.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you, ''misthios''. And feel free to "check back" any time.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you, ''misthios''. And feel free to "check back" any time.''
	<!--~~"check back" line may be conditional on flirting in~~ the ~~earlier conversation~~-->

			(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)
			*'''Mikkos''': ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''

			<tabber>
			\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''I've been thinking about you and wanted to see you again. I won't pretend otherwise.''
			*'''Mikkos:''' ''You've stormed into my life like a creature from the summit of Olympus itself. It's safe to say I've been thinking about you, too.''
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''We should probably leave our feelings aside...for now.''
			*'''Mikkos:''' ''For the sake of Neleus.''
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''Yes.''
			\|-\|Now is not the time.=
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''We can't do this now.''
			*'''Mikkos:''' ''I know, I know. It's just -''
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''What happened to Neleus is still an open question. I need to get to work.''
			\|-\|I have questions.=
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''I have some questions.''
			</tabber>

			*'''Mikkos:''' ''Is there anything I can do to help?''
			(goes back to the questions above)





	==Outcome==		==Outcome==

imported>Sbza45 at 10:35, 9 August 2019

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	*'''Mikkos:''' ''I'd hate to get sick someday and think of all the fun I didn't have.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''I'd hate to get sick someday and think of all the fun I didn't have.''
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''But first, there are those leads you mentioned.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''But first, there are those leads you mentioned.''
	\|-\|Not now.		\|-\|Not now.=
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''We shouldn't talk like this with Neleus in this condition. Now, about those leads you mentioned...''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''We shouldn't talk like this with Neleus in this condition. Now, about those leads you mentioned...''
	</tabber>		</tabber>

imported>Sbza45 at 10:34, 9 August 2019

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	*'''Barnabas:''' ''Let me know if there is any change in his condition. I'll be at the ship making offerings to Asklepios.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''Let me know if there is any change in his condition. I'll be at the ship making offerings to Asklepios.''
	</tabber>		</tabber>
	*
	Barnabas left. Kassandra turned back to Mikkos.		Barnabas left. Kassandra turned back to Mikkos.
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''Give Barnabas some time.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''Give Barnabas some time.''
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	*'''Kassandra:''' ''But first, there are those leads you mentioned.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''But first, there are those leads you mentioned.''
	\|-\|Not now.		\|-\|Not now.
			*'''Kassandra:''' ''We shouldn't talk like this with Neleus in this condition. Now, about those leads you mentioned...''
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''We shouldn't talk like this with Neleus in this condition. Now, about those leads you mentioned-''

	</tabber>		</tabber>
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Well, someone at the [[Champion's Gymnasium]] must know something.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Well, someone at the [[Champion's Gymnasium]] must know something.''

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	\| description = ''Arriving on [[Thasos]], [[Kassandra]] found herself caught in the middle of a family drama that included her trusty ship captain [[Barnabas]], his [[Neleus\|nephew]], and an overly friendly [[Mikkos\|caretaker]].''		\| description = ''Arriving on [[Thasos]], [[Kassandra]] found herself caught in the middle of a family drama that included her trusty ship captain [[Barnabas]], his [[Neleus\|nephew]], and an overly friendly [[Mikkos\|caretaker]].''
	\| appearance = ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]''		\| appearance = ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]''
	\| type = Side, Character		\| type = Side, Character {{c\|[[Mikkos]]}}
	\| previous =		\| previous =
	\| next = [[Have You Seen My Mikkos?]]		\| next = [[Have You Seen My Mikkos?]]
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	==Dialogue==		==Dialogue==
	Kassandra docked at ~~[[Lemnos]]~~ and a civilian hailed her as she disembarked.		Kassandra docked at Myrina and a civilian hailed her as she disembarked.
	*'''Civilian:''' Misthios! ''Over here, I need to talk to you!''		*'''Civilian:''' ''The Eagle Bearer?'' [[Mercenary\|Misthios]]! ''Over here, I need to talk to you!''
	Kassandra approached the man.		Kassandra approached the man.
	*'''Civilian:''' Misthios! ''And that looks like [[Barnabas]]'s ship.''		*'''Civilian:''' Misthios! ''And that looks like [[Barnabas]]' ship.''
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''In fact it—''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''In fact it—''
	Barnabas came up behind Kassandra.		Barnabas came up behind Kassandra.
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	*'''Civilian:''' ''It's just... Neleus was a legendary nuisance growing up. He lied. He cheated. He brawled and broke things.''		*'''Civilian:''' ''It's just... Neleus was a legendary nuisance growing up. He lied. He cheated. He brawled and broke things.''
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''Some of us grow out of that.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''Some of us grow out of that.''
	*'''Civilian:''' ''Well, now Neleus is a serious athlete, training to be an Olympic champion. And what's more, he's ''family'' to Barnabas.''		*'''Civilian:''' ''Well, now Neleus is a serious athlete, training to be an [[Olympic Games\|Olympic]] champion. And what's more, he's ''family'' to Barnabas.''
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''That ''is'' important.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''That ''is'' important.''
	(~~If players choose "~~I'll see what's going on.")		(Accept – I'll see what's going on.)
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll help Barnbas's nephew however I can.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll help Barnbas' nephew however I can.''
	*'''Civilian:''' ''Neleus lives with his caretaker, Mikkos. Their house is just up the hill north of here.''		*'''Civilian:''' ''Neleus lives with his caretaker, Mikkos. Their house is just up the hill north of here.''
	Kassandra travelled to [[Mikkos' House]]. As she approached, she heard a loud argument coming from inside the house.		Kassandra travelled to [[Mikkos' House]]. As she approached, she heard a loud argument coming from inside the house.
	*'''Barnabas:''' ''The amount of times this boy's been "too sick to work" only to hear, ''not two hours later'', he's in the fields with his friends. By Zeus!''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''The amount of times this boy's been "too sick to work" only to hear, ''not two hours later'', he's in the fields with his friends. By [[Zeus]]!''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''He's grown since you've been gone. He's not a kid anymore.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''He's grown since you've been gone. He's not a kid anymore.''
	*'''Barnabas:''' ''Ah, but still up to his old tricks, if you ask me.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''Ah, but still up to his old tricks, if you ask me.''
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	*'''Barnabas:''' ''There's only one way I know how.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''There's only one way I know how.''
	Barnabas walked out of the house, pausing at the door only to give Kassandra and Mikkos his parting instructions.		Barnabas walked out of the house, pausing at the door only to give Kassandra and Mikkos his parting instructions.
	*'''Barnabas:''' ''Let me know if there is any change in his condition. I'll be at the ship making offerings to Asklepios.''		*'''Barnabas:''' ''Let me know if there is any change in his condition. I'll be at the ship making offerings to [[Asklepios]].''
	</tabber>		</tabber>
	Barnabas left. Kassandra turned back to Mikkos.		Barnabas left. Kassandra turned back to Mikkos.
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''Give Barnabas some time.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''Give Barnabas some time.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''But our time may run out. I have more leads to follow up on, but with Neleus like this I can't leave his side. Maybe you could help me?''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''But our time may run out. I have more leads to follow up on, but with Neleus like this I can't leave his side. Maybe you could help me?''
	(~~If the players choose "~~I'll help.")		(Accept – I'll help.)
	*'''Kassandra:''' ''Barnabas is like family to me. I want to do anything I can to help Neleus.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''Barnabas is like family to me. I want to do anything I can to help Neleus.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you.''
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	*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll follow up on these leads and check back when I know what's going on.''		*'''Kassandra:''' ''I'll follow up on these leads and check back when I know what's going on.''
	*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you, ''misthios''. And feel free to "check back" any time.''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''Thank you, ''misthios''. And feel free to "check back" any time.''

	(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)		(The player can talk to Mikkos again in the house)
	*'''Mikkos''': ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''		*'''Mikkos:''' ''You're back! Neleus hasn't gotten any better. But maybe you're here to see me instead?''
	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=		\|-\|I'm here for you (Flirt)=