Talk:Thuggee - Revision history

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Cult?

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	How do we define cult? IRL Wikipedia does use the word cult occasionally in conjunction with Thugee society and notes their particular devotion to Kali. However it also notes the biases of British sources. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 03:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)		How do we define cult? IRL Wikipedia does use the word cult occasionally in conjunction with Thugee society and notes their particular devotion to Kali. However it also notes the biases of British sources. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 03:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
	:I don't know enough about the Thuggees to say whether they were a cult in real-life or not. I reverted the category addition to err on the side of caution (and stimulate discussion if any). I only have read or heard criticisms before about ''Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom'' that its depiction of the Thuggees in almost every way, especially in their worship of Kali, is highly fictionalized. I would take whatever Wikipedia says with a grain of salt given that they were wrong about the ''youxia'' and Mohist connection. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:11, 18 August 2023 (UTC)		:I don't know enough about the Thuggees to say whether they were a cult in real-life or not. I reverted the category addition to err on the side of caution (and stimulate discussion if any). I only have read or heard criticisms before about ''Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom'' that its depiction of the Thuggees in almost every way, especially in their worship of Kali, is highly fictionalized. I would take whatever Wikipedia says with a grain of salt given that they were wrong about the ''youxia'' and Mohist connection. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:11, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
			::Outside ''Indy'' criticisms, one (paywalled :/ unfortunately) academic source I can find on the group with a quick Google has these partial excerpts, if it helps any::<br><blockquote>''Perhaps the most distinctive aspect of thuggee is its '''''supposed''''' character as a form of Kali-worship...A striking feature of the vast amount of literature on thuggee is thus the huge discrepancies in the representation of the subject...This is how the journalist George Bruce evoked the mystery of thuggee in 1968 thus continuing one of the most enduring myths of colonial India—that of the thugs who in the ''[words cut off]'' strangled and plundered travellers...''<br><br>— {{Cite web\|url=https://www.jstor.org/stable/3876674\|title="The Deconstructed Stranglers: A Reassessment of Thuggee"\|author={{Wiki\|Kim A. Wagner\|Wagner, Kim A.}}\|date=6 October 2004\|work={{Wiki\|Modern Asian Studies}} '''38''', 4\|publisher={{Wiki\|Cambridge University Press}}\|pages=931-963\|accessdate=18 August 2023}} DOI: https://doi.org/10.1017/S0026749X04001258, emphasis added</blockquote><br>I also found {{Cite web\|url=https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-0458-8\|title="Monsters in the dark: the discovery of Thuggee and demographic knowledge in colonial India"\|author=Bhattacharya, Sagnik\|date=4 May 2020\|work={{Wiki\|Humanities and Social Sciences Communications\|Palgrave Communications}} '''6''', 1\|publisher={{Wiki\|Cambridge University Press}}\|pages=1-9\|accessdate=18 August 2023}} DOI: https://doi.org/10.1057/s41599-020-0458-8, a more recent open-source article from ''{{Wiki\|Nature (journal)\|Nature}}'' that cites Wagner's piece and from its abstract says Thuggee were the archetypal monstrous Other for British colonial officials and public alike to fear. – [[User:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;font-size:15px;color:#">Darman</span>]] ([[User talk:Darman36\|<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC;color:#">talk</span>]]) 13:25, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

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	How do we define cult? IRL Wikipedia does use the word cult occasionally in conjunction with Thugee society and notes their particular devotion to Kali. However it also notes the biases of British sources. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 03:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)		How do we define cult? IRL Wikipedia does use the word cult occasionally in conjunction with Thugee society and notes their particular devotion to Kali. However it also notes the biases of British sources. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 03:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
			:I don't know enough about the Thuggees to say whether they were a cult in real-life or not. I reverted the category addition to err on the side of caution (and stimulate discussion if any). I only have read or heard criticisms before about ''Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom'' that its depiction of the Thuggees in almost every way, especially in their worship of Kali, is highly fictionalized. I would take whatever Wikipedia says with a grain of salt given that they were wrong about the ''youxia'' and Mohist connection. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:11, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

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==Cult?==
How do we define cult? IRL Wikipedia does use the word cult occasionally in conjunction with Thugee society and notes their particular devotion to Kali. However it also notes the biases of British sources. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 03:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)