imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Definite article or no */ OVerstated my certainty there. I'm not 100% certain, but it just looks really awkward to me. I will check grammar sources

2018-10-20T02:28:19Z

Definite article or no: OVerstated my certainty there. I'm not 100% certain, but it just looks really awkward to me. I will check grammar sources

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	I know theoretically, an organization can have "the" within its name, but in practice, when an organization is referred with a preceding definite article, the definite article is never capitalized. I've never seen a case where it is capitalized such as it is in this article so far, and I'm ~~fairly certain~~ that that's grammatically ~~incorrect~~. The only time I know when capitalizing the definite article when it is part of a name mid-sentence is with book titles. For example, ''The Lord of the Rings'' where a common mistake is that people spell it the ''Lord of the Rings'' or write it as ''the Lord of the Rings''.		I know theoretically, an organization can have "the" within its name, but in practice, when an organization is referred with a preceding definite article, the definite article is never capitalized. I've never seen a case where it is capitalized such as it is in this article so far, and I'm really skeptical that that's grammatically correct. The only time I know when capitalizing the definite article when it is part of a name mid-sentence is with book titles. For example, ''The Lord of the Rings'' where a common mistake is that people spell it the ''Lord of the Rings'' or write it as ''the Lord of the Rings''.

	But with organization names, it's very rare for the definite article to be part of the actual name. Even when it is, the definite article is never capitalized as far as I know. We have an issue in this wiki where we are not sure whether we should include the definite article or not, such as with [[The Duelist]] and [[Duellist]] even though both have to be referred to with a definite article (i.e. the Duelist and the Duellist respectively). [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 02:24, October 20, 2018 (UTC)		But with organization names, it's very rare for the definite article to be part of the actual name. Even when it is, the definite article is never capitalized as far as I know. We have an issue in this wiki where we are not sure whether we should include the definite article or not, such as with [[The Duelist]] and [[Duellist]] even though both have to be referred to with a definite article (i.e. the Duelist and the Duellist respectively). [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 02:24, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

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2018-10-20T02:24:26Z

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==Definite article or no==
I know theoretically, an organization can have "the" within its name, but in practice, when an organization is referred with a preceding definite article, the definite article is never capitalized. I've never seen a case where it is capitalized such as it is in this article so far, and I'm fairly certain that that's grammatically incorrect. The only time I know when capitalizing the definite article when it is part of a name mid-sentence is with book titles. For example, ''The Lord of the Rings'' where a common mistake is that people spell it the ''Lord of the Rings'' or write it as ''the Lord of the Rings''.

But with organization names, it's very rare for the definite article to be part of the actual name. Even when it is, the definite article is never capitalized as far as I know. We have an issue in this wiki where we are not sure whether we should include the definite article or not, such as with [[The Duelist]] and [[Duellist]] even though both have to be referred to with a definite article (i.e. the Duelist and the Duellist respectively). [[User:Sol Pacificus|'''Sol Pacificus''']][[User talk:Sol Pacificus|(Cyfiero)]] 02:24, October 20, 2018 (UTC)

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imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Definite article or no */ OVerstated my certainty there. I'm not 100% certain, but it just looks really awkward to me. I will check grammar sources

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