Talk:Sword of Adha - Revision history

imported>Zero-ELEC: /* Name */ booping a comment

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	:A few more thoughts on this. This also may be a weird point, but I think subconsciously, there's a poetic reason behind it. I liked that it parallels "Sword of Altaïr" given Altaïr's love for her, and also the fact that it became his strongest sword but which for whatever reason was dumped, thus an echo of his later sword.		:A few more thoughts on this. This also may be a weird point, but I think subconsciously, there's a poetic reason behind it. I liked that it parallels "Sword of Altaïr" given Altaïr's love for her, and also the fact that it became his strongest sword but which for whatever reason was dumped, thus an echo of his later sword.
	:I've been thinking about moving [[Axe Warrior]] to "Basilisk's champion" and in that case I would agree with you. Champion of Basilisk sounds more like declaring it as his title, while "Basilisk's champion" only describes that he was the champion (which can be defined as just the strongest, most special warrior in a mission or battle) of Basilisk for that mission. A more relevant point then is that in contrast, I think I subconsciously wanted to de-emphasize Adha being the possessor of the sword. The reason is because we never see her use the sword, so even when I first played the game, I didn't quite associate it as her weapon ''per se''. This might sound weird because then why would we name the sword after her instead, wouldn't that engrave the idea it was hers even more? My thought was that a name is a name and might not always be reflective of reality. I know there's many examples in real-life where something named after a person wasn't ever owned by that person, or even a scientific law named in honor of someone who wasn't necessarily the sole discoverer or the discoverer of that law. Thus, the sword can be appropriately named after Adha for lack of a better name, for its connection to her, but even though it was in her possession, given she never used it herself (perhaps because she didn't know swordsmanship), it might not have been "Adha's sword," which I think I thought implies it was a weapon she used. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 20:25, March 7, 2016 (UTC)		:I've been thinking about moving [[Axe Warrior]] to "Basilisk's champion" and in that case I would agree with you. Champion of Basilisk sounds more like declaring it as his title, while "Basilisk's champion" only describes that he was the champion (which can be defined as just the strongest, most special warrior in a mission or battle) of Basilisk for that mission. A more relevant point then is that in contrast, I think I subconsciously wanted to de-emphasize Adha being the possessor of the sword. The reason is because we never see her use the sword, so even when I first played the game, I didn't quite associate it as her weapon ''per se''. This might sound weird because then why would we name the sword after her instead, wouldn't that engrave the idea it was hers even more? My thought was that a name is a name and might not always be reflective of reality. I know there's many examples in real-life where something named after a person wasn't ever owned by that person, or even a scientific law named in honor of someone who wasn't necessarily the sole discoverer or the discoverer of that law. Thus, the sword can be appropriately named after Adha for lack of a better name, for its connection to her, but even though it was in her possession, given she never used it herself (perhaps because she didn't know swordsmanship), it might not have been "Adha's sword," which I think I thought implies it was a weapon she used. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 20:25, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
			::All fair points – I'm definitely convinced, nevermind my original comment. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 01:21, March 8, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus at 20:25, 7 March 2016

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	I believe this page shouldn't be called '''Sword of Adha''', and should instead be called '''Adha's sword'''. "Sword of Adha" sounds, to me, like a more official "name" (more like a title, less like a descriptor) while "Adha's sword" sounds more like a descriptive title than a name. A bit more [[Patience Gibbs' charm]] and a bit less [[Sword of Altaïr]]. Thoughts? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 18:40, March 7, 2016 (UTC)		I believe this page shouldn't be called '''Sword of Adha''', and should instead be called '''Adha's sword'''. "Sword of Adha" sounds, to me, like a more official "name" (more like a title, less like a descriptor) while "Adha's sword" sounds more like a descriptive title than a name. A bit more [[Patience Gibbs' charm]] and a bit less [[Sword of Altaïr]]. Thoughts? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 18:40, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
	:I'm not sure it matters so much whether it sounds a bit more official or not because of the conjectural tag, but this may be my Wookieepedian roots speaking. I would prefer a more formal name to an informal one, with the conjectural tag covering the fact that it is not meant to be taken as official. My main reason though is that I thought it correctly emphasized the importance of this sword in relation to the game. That is, it is consistent with the Sword of Altaïr in ''Assassin's Creed II'' and the Dagger of Brutus in ''Brotherhood'', as the most powerful item in the game. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 19:53, March 7, 2016 (UTC)		:I'm not sure it matters so much whether it sounds a bit more official or not because of the conjectural tag, but this may be my Wookieepedian roots speaking. I would prefer a more formal name to an informal one, with the conjectural tag covering the fact that it is not meant to be taken as official. My main reason though is that I thought it correctly emphasized the importance of this sword in relation to the game. That is, it is consistent with the Sword of Altaïr in ''Assassin's Creed II'' and the Dagger of Brutus in ''Brotherhood'', as the most powerful item in the game. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 19:53, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
			:A few more thoughts on this. This also may be a weird point, but I think subconsciously, there's a poetic reason behind it. I liked that it parallels "Sword of Altaïr" given Altaïr's love for her, and also the fact that it became his strongest sword but which for whatever reason was dumped, thus an echo of his later sword.
			:I've been thinking about moving [[Axe Warrior]] to "Basilisk's champion" and in that case I would agree with you. Champion of Basilisk sounds more like declaring it as his title, while "Basilisk's champion" only describes that he was the champion (which can be defined as just the strongest, most special warrior in a mission or battle) of Basilisk for that mission. A more relevant point then is that in contrast, I think I subconsciously wanted to de-emphasize Adha being the possessor of the sword. The reason is because we never see her use the sword, so even when I first played the game, I didn't quite associate it as her weapon ''per se''. This might sound weird because then why would we name the sword after her instead, wouldn't that engrave the idea it was hers even more? My thought was that a name is a name and might not always be reflective of reality. I know there's many examples in real-life where something named after a person wasn't ever owned by that person, or even a scientific law named in honor of someone who wasn't necessarily the sole discoverer or the discoverer of that law. Thus, the sword can be appropriately named after Adha for lack of a better name, for its connection to her, but even though it was in her possession, given she never used it herself (perhaps because she didn't know swordsmanship), it might not have been "Adha's sword," which I think I thought implies it was a weapon she used. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 20:25, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

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	I believe this page shouldn't be called '''Sword of Adha''', and should instead be called '''Adha's sword'''. "Sword of Adha" sounds, to me, like a more official "name" (more like a title, less like a descriptor) while "Adha's sword" sounds more like a descriptive title than a name. A bit more [[Patience Gibbs' charm]] and a bit less [[Sword of Altaïr]]. Thoughts? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 18:40, March 7, 2016 (UTC)		I believe this page shouldn't be called '''Sword of Adha''', and should instead be called '''Adha's sword'''. "Sword of Adha" sounds, to me, like a more official "name" (more like a title, less like a descriptor) while "Adha's sword" sounds more like a descriptive title than a name. A bit more [[Patience Gibbs' charm]] and a bit less [[Sword of Altaïr]]. Thoughts? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 18:40, March 7, 2016 (UTC)
			:I'm not sure it matters so much whether it sounds a bit more official or not because of the conjectural tag, but this may be my Wookieepedian roots speaking. I would prefer a more formal name to an informal one, with the conjectural tag covering the fact that it is not meant to be taken as official. My main reason though is that I thought it correctly emphasized the importance of this sword in relation to the game. That is, it is consistent with the Sword of Altaïr in ''Assassin's Creed II'' and the Dagger of Brutus in ''Brotherhood'', as the most powerful item in the game. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 19:53, March 7, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Zero-ELEC: Name

2016-03-07T18:40:23Z

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I believe this page shouldn't be called '''Sword of Adha''', and should instead be called '''Adha's sword'''. "Sword of Adha" sounds, to me, like a more official "name" (more like a title, less like a descriptor) while "Adha's sword" sounds more like a descriptive title than a name. A bit more [[Patience Gibbs' charm]] and a bit less [[Sword of Altaïr]]. Thoughts? — [[User:Zero-ELEC|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC|talk]]) 18:40, March 7, 2016 (UTC)