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	Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
	:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	::::It's a bit more complicated than that. The name Peru was given legal status by the Spanish Crown in 1529. The Incas themselves referred to their land (as well as their Empire) as ''Tawantinsuyu'' ("The Four Regions"), those four regions being: Chinchaysuyu (north), Antisuyu (east; the Amazon jungle), Qullasuyu (south) and Kuntisuyu (west). The term "Inca/Inka" means "ruler" or "lord" and was used to refer to the ruling class or the ruling family. Only 15,000 to 40,000 people within their population of over 10 million were referred to as Incas. Like I said, it's complicated, so it's for the best to use most commonly accepted name for the country. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 01:01, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::::It's a bit more complicated than that. The name Peru was given legal status by the Spanish Crown in 1529. The Incas themselves referred to their land (as well as their Empire) as ''Tawantinsuyu'' ("The Four Regions"), those four regions being: Chinchaysuyu (north), Antisuyu (east; the Amazon jungle), Qullasuyu (south) and Kuntisuyu (west). The term "Inca/Inka" means "ruler" or "lord" and was used to refer to the ruling class or the ruling family. Only 15,000 to 40,000 people within their population of over 10 million were referred to as Incas. Like I said, it's complicated, so it's for the best to use the most commonly accepted name for the country. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 01:01, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
	:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
			::::It's a bit more complicated than that. The name Peru was given legal status by the Spanish Crown in 1529. The Incas themselves referred to their land (as well as their Empire) as ''Tawantinsuyu'' ("The Four Regions"), those four regions being: Chinchaysuyu (north), Antisuyu (east; the Amazon jungle), Qullasuyu (south) and Kuntisuyu (west). The term "Inca/Inka" means "ruler" or "lord" and was used to refer to the ruling class or the ruling family. Only 15,000 to 40,000 people within their population of over 10 million were referred to as Incas. Like I said, it's complicated, so it's for the best to use most commonly accepted name for the country. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 01:01, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

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	:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
	:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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	:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
			:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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	Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
			::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

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	Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
			:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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==Move to Incan Brotherhood?==
Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus|'''Sol Pacificus''']][[User talk:Sol Pacificus|(Cyfiero)]] 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
	:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	::::It's a bit more complicated than that. The name Peru was given legal status by the Spanish Crown in 1529. The Incas themselves referred to their land (as well as their Empire) as ''Tawantinsuyu'' ("The Four Regions"), those four regions being: Chinchaysuyu (north), Antisuyu (east; the Amazon jungle), Qullasuyu (south) and Kuntisuyu (west). The term "Inca/Inka" means "ruler" or "lord" and was used to refer to the ruling class or the ruling family. Only 15,000 to 40,000 people within their population of over 10 million were referred to as Incas. Like I said, it's complicated, so it's for the best to use most commonly accepted name for the country. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 01:01, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::::It's a bit more complicated than that. The name Peru was given legal status by the Spanish Crown in 1529. The Incas themselves referred to their land (as well as their Empire) as ''Tawantinsuyu'' ("The Four Regions"), those four regions being: Chinchaysuyu (north), Antisuyu (east; the Amazon jungle), Qullasuyu (south) and Kuntisuyu (west). The term "Inca/Inka" means "ruler" or "lord" and was used to refer to the ruling class or the ruling family. Only 15,000 to 40,000 people within their population of over 10 million were referred to as Incas. Like I said, it's complicated, so it's for the best to use the most commonly accepted name for the country. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 01:01, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
	:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
			::::It's a bit more complicated than that. The name Peru was given legal status by the Spanish Crown in 1529. The Incas themselves referred to their land (as well as their Empire) as ''Tawantinsuyu'' ("The Four Regions"), those four regions being: Chinchaysuyu (north), Antisuyu (east; the Amazon jungle), Qullasuyu (south) and Kuntisuyu (west). The term "Inca/Inka" means "ruler" or "lord" and was used to refer to the ruling class or the ruling family. Only 15,000 to 40,000 people within their population of over 10 million were referred to as Incas. Like I said, it's complicated, so it's for the best to use most commonly accepted name for the country. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 01:01, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

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	:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
	:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time so it's kind of anachronistic, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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	:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)		::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
			:::The country of Peru wasn't formed at this time, though I think that the Spanish Empire did already name it the Province of Peru. However, my issue with this is that for this era, this is essentially an [[wikipedia:exonym and endonym\|exonym]] applied by imperialistic conquerors rather than the name used by its people themselves. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:41, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

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	Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		Hm two things: first, if this article's name is conjecture, and the only operations we know it conducted occurred during the Incan Empire, then it would better be named the Incan Brotherhood of Assassins. However, I think it's fairly clear from the story that at this time, there was no dedicated guild or branch in Inca. Gonzalo Pardo is more accurately called a member of the Spanish Brotherhood accompanying the conquistadors on an assignment who ended up self-exiling himself in his failure and increasing love for the Inca. We should note that [[Giovanni Borgia]] had a similar mission, accompanying the conquistadors to the Aztec Empire, but this does not mean he is a member of an Aztec (or Mexican) Brotherhood. He went there on a mission, same as Gonzalo Pardo. Ah, I see that we do have Gonzalo Pardo listed as a member of the Spanish Brotherhood. Unless he and Quila eventually founded a branch in the Incan Empire (and they actually probably would have but this is unconfirmed), then as far as I know, there's no confirmation this branch existed. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
	:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)		:Wow. It was just moved to Peruvian Brotherhood. If it's conjectural, Incan Brotherhood makes more sense. :/ [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 22:38, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
			::Gonzalo Pardo handed Quila a ''quipu'' which contained a password for to enter the Brotherhood. I highly doubt that he expected her to travel to Spain in order to reach the Spanish Brotherhood and, even if he for some reason did expect that, I don't see any reason why the Spanish Brotherhood would even be familiar with quipus to begin with. All of this suggest that there were other Assassins active in the area. As for their name, Incan Brotherhood sounds rather presumptuous and overly specific, naming them after the country makes more sense. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 00:25, February 23, 2017 (UTC)