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	I know we will probably not get answers on this, but something that has been bugging me for quite some time. After [[Ratonhnhaké:ton\|Connor]] unraveled the robes after giving them to [[Achilles Davenport\|Achilles]], Achilles said "These were the robes of the first Assassin to come to the colonies."		I know we will probably not get answers on this, but something that has been bugging me for quite some time. After [[Ratonhnhaké:ton\|Connor]] unraveled the robes after giving them to [[Achilles Davenport\|Achilles]], Achilles said "These were the robes of the first Assassin to come to the colonies."

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	The thing is, the [[Assassins]] have been in the Americas since circa 1503, when colonization had already started with the Spanish. Firstly we have [[Ezio Auditore da Firenze\|Ezio]] to thank for making sure that [[Christoffa Corombo\|Columbus]]' voyage to the Americas was a success. Then Ezio sent some of his Assassins to Constantinople, who stole some of Piri Reis' maps from his workshop in 1503. The Assassins used these maps to start their spread to the New World, as the [[Templars]] were also expanding their influence by then. By 1510, the Assassins were very present in [[Florida]], and offered refuge to [[Alonso Carlo]] and [[Miguel Ramón Carlo de Lugo]], who were escaping from [[Juan Ponce de León]]'s persecution in [[Puerto Rico]].		The thing is, the [[Assassins]] have been in the Americas since circa 1503, when colonization had already started with the Spanish. Firstly we have [[Ezio Auditore da Firenze\|Ezio]] to thank for making sure that [[Christoffa Corombo\|Columbus]]' voyage to the Americas was a success. Then Ezio sent some of his Assassins to Constantinople, who stole some of Piri Reis' maps from his workshop in 1503. The Assassins used these maps to start their spread to the New World, as the [[Templars]] were also expanding their influence by then. By 1510, the Assassins were very present in [[Florida]], and offered refuge to [[Alonso Carlo]] and [[Miguel Ramón Carlo de Lugo]], who were escaping from [[Juan Ponce de León]]'s persecution in [[Puerto Rico]].

	John de la Tour does not sound particularly Spanish; John is an English name, and de la Tour is a French surname. Moreover, [[:File:ACIII-ManorP1 8.png\|his Assassin robes]] do not look very 15th or 16th century to me, more 17th or 18th century. The same goes for [[:File:ACIII-ColonialOutfit.png\|his colonial robes]], they are most definitely not 15th or 16th, or maybe not even 17th century. This is why I believe that John de la Tour was not the first Assassin in the colonies in general, but the first Assassin in the English colonies, the Thirteen Colonies. Since his second outfit is called the Traditional Colonial Assassin outfit, and the 'Colonial Assassins' were the Assassins in specifically the Thirteen Colonies and not the others, I am even more sure of this. I also don't see a way that John de la Tour's robes would be so well conserved for nearly 300 years, and how they would have gone from the Caribbean area to Massachusetts.		John de la Tour does not sound particularly Spanish; John is an English name, and de la Tour is a French surname. Moreover, [[:File:ACIII-ManorP1 8.png\|his Assassin robes]] do not look very 15th or 16th century to me, more 17th or 18th century. The same goes for [[:File:ACIII-ColonialOutfit.png\|his colonial robes]], they are most definitely not 15th or 16th, or maybe not even 17th century. This is why I believe that John de la Tour was not the first Assassin in the colonies in general, but the first Assassin in the English colonies, the Thirteen Colonies. Since his second outfit is called the Traditional Colonial Assassin outfit, and the 'Colonial Assassins' were the Assassins in specifically the Thirteen Colonies and not the others, I am even more sure of this. I also don't see a way that John de la Tour's robes would be so well conserved for nearly 300 years, and how they would have gone from the Caribbean area to Massachusetts.

	I was hoping that ''Utopia'' would shed more light on this since it would focus on the Brotherhood in the New World during the 16th and 17th centuries, but it's still not released and I'm not even sure if it's ever going to. I hope it does, because this is a plot point I'd really like to see cleared up. I was wondering if you guys have thought about this, or what your thoughts on this are. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 18:21, August 10, 2013 (UTC)		I was hoping that ''Utopia'' would shed more light on this since it would focus on the Brotherhood in the New World during the 16th and 17th centuries, but it's still not released and I'm not even sure if it's ever going to. I hope it does, because this is a plot point I'd really like to see cleared up. I was wondering if you guys have thought about this, or what your thoughts on this are. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 18:21, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

			I'm really confused now. Achilles said that John's Uniform represents how long the Assassins had a presence here, protecting the people of these lands. But 20-30 years is not that long at all! They really muddled it all up. If it was 80 to maybe even a century, sure, but 20 to 30 years? Even if Achilles never gave an exact number, he never even implyed it, he described it as a large time frame, and 30 years isn't that much really, especially by Assassin history standards. Both canon details are really clashing with one another! I honestly think Ubisoft had forgotten that tad bit of dialogue between Connor and Achilles about John's uniform. What do you think?[[Special:Contributions/173.71.98.33\|173.71.98.33]] 09:02, December 9, 2014 (UTC)

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==First Assassin in the colonies==
I know we will probably not get answers on this, but something that has been bugging me for quite some time. After [[Ratonhnhaké:ton|Connor]] unraveled the robes after giving them to [[Achilles Davenport|Achilles]], Achilles said "These were the robes of the first Assassin to come to the colonies."

The thing is, the [[Assassins]] have been in the Americas since circa 1503, when colonization had already started with the Spanish. Firstly we have [[Ezio Auditore da Firenze|Ezio]] to thank for making sure that [[Christoffa Corombo|Columbus]]' voyage to the Americas was a success. Then Ezio sent some of his Assassins to Constantinople, who stole some of Piri Reis' maps from his workshop in 1503. The Assassins used these maps to start their spread to the New World, as the [[Templars]] were also expanding their influence by then. By 1510, the Assassins were very present in [[Florida]], and offered refuge to [[Alonso Carlo]] and [[Miguel Ramón Carlo de Lugo]], who were escaping from [[Juan Ponce de León]]'s persecution in [[Puerto Rico]].

John de la Tour does not sound particularly Spanish; John is an English name, and de la Tour is a French surname. Moreover, [[:File:ACIII-ManorP1 8.png|his Assassin robes]] do not look very 15th or 16th century to me, more 17th or 18th century. The same goes for [[:File:ACIII-ColonialOutfit.png|his colonial robes]], they are most definitely not 15th or 16th, or maybe not even 17th century. This is why I believe that John de la Tour was not the first Assassin in the colonies in general, but the first Assassin in the English colonies, the Thirteen Colonies. Since his second outfit is called the Traditional Colonial Assassin outfit, and the 'Colonial Assassins' were the Assassins in specifically the Thirteen Colonies and not the others, I am even more sure of this. I also don't see a way that John de la Tour's robes would be so well conserved for nearly 300 years, and how they would have gone from the Caribbean area to Massachusetts.

I was hoping that ''Utopia'' would shed more light on this since it would focus on the Brotherhood in the New World during the 16th and 17th centuries, but it's still not released and I'm not even sure if it's ever going to. I hope it does, because this is a plot point I'd really like to see cleared up. I was wondering if you guys have thought about this, or what your thoughts on this are. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 18:21, August 10, 2013 (UTC)