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imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Worst Assassin in history? */

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	:Hey, first of all, I would like to remind you that the talk pages should only be reserved for topics relevant to improving the article itself, not on personal merits and opinions regarding the subject. The header message at the top of this discussion page states this explicitly.		:Hey, first of all, I would like to remind you that the talk pages should only be reserved for topics relevant to improving the article itself, not on personal merits and opinions regarding the subject. The header message at the top of this discussion page states this explicitly.
	:As for your critique, I should point out that just as in any organization, there are various members who specialize in different areas and have different sets of skills. Jayadeep is not a field agent, but for him to be a Mentor, he must have had valuable administrative and management skills. Also, I appreciated that the game broke from established gender roles by having Jayadeep as a damsel in distress. Guys can be in trouble too, and girls can be their saviors. It is consistent with the series' progressive attitudes. There are men whose merits may lay in martial prowess, and there are men whose merits are in other virtues, such as compassion and emotional sensitivity, which are not and should not strictly be the providence of women. While ideally a person should be badass ''and'' have an affinity for emotional intelligence and empathy, being deficient in the former when he is strong in the latter does not mean that this person is irredeemably horrible. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 02:37, February 16, 2017 (UTC)		:As for your critique, I should point out that just as in any organization, there are various members who specialize in different areas and have different sets of skills. Jayadeep is not a field agent, but for him to be a Mentor, he must have had valuable administrative and management skills. Also, I appreciated that the game broke from established gender roles by having Jayadeep as a damsel in distress. Guys can be in trouble too, and girls can be their saviors. It is consistent with the series' progressive attitudes. There are men whose merits may lay in martial prowess, and there are men whose merits are in other virtues, such as compassion and emotional sensitivity, which are not and should not strictly be the providence of women. While ideally a person should be badass ''and'' have an affinity for emotional intelligence and empathy, being deficient in the former when he is strong in the latter does not mean that this person is irredeemably horrible. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 02:37, February 16, 2017 (UTC)
			:Ohhh forgot my original point, which is that the worst Assassins in history would probably be: [[Louis Mills]], [[Louis-Joseph Gaultier, Chevalier de la Vérendrye\|Louis-Joseph Gaultier]], and [[Kesegowaase]] in my opinion. :P. Not too fond of [[Callum Lynch]] either. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 02:45, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Worst Assassin in history? */

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	== Worst Assassin in history? ==		== Worst Assassin in history? ==


	(Obviously spoilers!)		(Obviously spoilers!)
	I screamed no at the TV when Evie said yes to this guy's proposal. It seemed so forced. No real connection between them, and he played a total damsel in distress role throughout the game. It's not cute when it's a dude who's supposed to be a badass needing rescued every 20 minutes. Apparently there's some stuff in a book about him, but honestly expecting the person playing the game to read their books to understand a single redeeming factor in a character is just bad writing. How is this guy the "leader" of the Assassins in London? His skillset seems to suggest he'd be killed in the opening sequence in literally any other AC game. Why is it the one time I '''want''' the "love interest" to die a horrible death, they live happily ever after? I finished the flower collection today and I was not happy about it. [[User:Lnsanitation\|Lnsanitation]] ([[User talk:Lnsanitation\|talk]]) 01:26, February 16, 2017 (UTC)		I screamed no at the TV when Evie said yes to this guy's proposal. It seemed so forced. No real connection between them, and he played a total damsel in distress role throughout the game. It's not cute when it's a dude who's supposed to be a badass needing rescued every 20 minutes. Apparently there's some stuff in a book about him, but honestly expecting the person playing the game to read their books to understand a single redeeming factor in a character is just bad writing. How is this guy the "leader" of the Assassins in London? His skillset seems to suggest he'd be killed in the opening sequence in literally any other AC game. Why is it the one time I '''want''' the "love interest" to die a horrible death, they live happily ever after? I finished the flower collection today and I was not happy about it. [[User:Lnsanitation\|Lnsanitation]] ([[User talk:Lnsanitation\|talk]]) 01:26, February 16, 2017 (UTC)
			:Hey, first of all, I would like to remind you that the talk pages should only be reserved for topics relevant to improving the article itself, not on personal merits and opinions regarding the subject. The header message at the top of this discussion page states this explicitly.
			:As for your critique, I should point out that just as in any organization, there are various members who specialize in different areas and have different sets of skills. Jayadeep is not a field agent, but for him to be a Mentor, he must have had valuable administrative and management skills. Also, I appreciated that the game broke from established gender roles by having Jayadeep as a damsel in distress. Guys can be in trouble too, and girls can be their saviors. It is consistent with the series' progressive attitudes. There are men whose merits may lay in martial prowess, and there are men whose merits are in other virtues, such as compassion and emotional sensitivity, which are not and should not strictly be the providence of women. While ideally a person should be badass ''and'' have an affinity for emotional intelligence and empathy, being deficient in the former when he is strong in the latter does not mean that this person is irredeemably horrible. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 02:37, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Lnsanitation: /* Worst Assassin in history? */ new section

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	:National pride? :P There were also a lot of Indian immigrants in London at the time who wore traditional Indian robes, so perhaps that's what Henry's going for. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 09:13, December 12, 2015 (UTC)		:National pride? :P There were also a lot of Indian immigrants in London at the time who wore traditional Indian robes, so perhaps that's what Henry's going for. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 09:13, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

			== Worst Assassin in history? ==


			(Obviously spoilers!)
			I screamed no at the TV when Evie said yes to this guy's proposal. It seemed so forced. No real connection between them, and he played a total damsel in distress role throughout the game. It's not cute when it's a dude who's supposed to be a badass needing rescued every 20 minutes. Apparently there's some stuff in a book about him, but honestly expecting the person playing the game to read their books to understand a single redeeming factor in a character is just bad writing. How is this guy the "leader" of the Assassins in London? His skillset seems to suggest he'd be killed in the opening sequence in literally any other AC game. Why is it the one time I '''want''' the "love interest" to die a horrible death, they live happily ever after? I finished the flower collection today and I was not happy about it. [[User:Lnsanitation\|Lnsanitation]] ([[User talk:Lnsanitation\|talk]]) 01:26, February 16, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Outfit */

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Outfit

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	Anyone else find it odd that he'd continue to wear his Indian Assassin outfit in London? Wouldn't it be more practical to wear something else for the sake of blending in? I mean, Ezio wore a different outfit when he went to Constantinople, and Arno had a different outfit in Franciade.[[User:SPARTAN-501\|SPARTAN-501]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-501\|talk]]) 05:30, December 12, 2015 (UTC)		Anyone else find it odd that he'd continue to wear his Indian Assassin outfit in London? Wouldn't it be more practical to wear something else for the sake of blending in? I mean, Ezio wore a different outfit when he went to Constantinople, and Arno had a different outfit in Franciade.[[User:SPARTAN-501\|SPARTAN-501]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-501\|talk]]) 05:30, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

			:National pride? :P There were also a lot of Indian immigrants in London at the time who wore traditional Indian robes, so perhaps that's what Henry's going for. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 09:13, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

imported>SPARTAN-501: /* Outfit */

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	== Outfit ==		== Outfit ==
	Anyone else find it odd that he'd continue to wear his Indian Assassin outfit in London? Wouldn't it be more practical to wear something else for the sake of blending in? I mean, Ezio wore a different outfit when he went to Constantinople, and Arno had a different outfit in Franciade.		Anyone else find it odd that he'd continue to wear his Indian Assassin outfit in London? Wouldn't it be more practical to wear something else for the sake of blending in? I mean, Ezio wore a different outfit when he went to Constantinople, and Arno had a different outfit in Franciade.[[User:SPARTAN-501\|SPARTAN-501]] ([[User talk:SPARTAN-501\|talk]]) 05:30, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

imported>SPARTAN-501 at 05:30, 12 December 2015

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	The description is already there so we don't have to add it but yes, no need to add KG to the description. To the infobox in brackets next to the 'Order of the Sacred Garter' sure, if it's needed there instead. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 17:56, November 17, 2015 (UTC)		The description is already there so we don't have to add it but yes, no need to add KG to the description. To the infobox in brackets next to the 'Order of the Sacred Garter' sure, if it's needed there instead. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 17:56, November 17, 2015 (UTC)


			== Outfit ==
			Anyone else find it odd that he'd continue to wear his Indian Assassin outfit in London? Wouldn't it be more practical to wear something else for the sake of blending in? I mean, Ezio wore a different outfit when he went to Constantinople, and Arno had a different outfit in Franciade.

imported>GamerSophie: /* KG */

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	Throwing this on here, but this goes for Evie and Jacob's pages as well - do we really need to put the "KG" in the text itself? I feel like their infoboxes suffice in pointing out they're part of the Order of the Sacred Garter, and to be honest, I just don't like the way the "KG" is integrated into the text. It feels really random imo. I'd even settle for it being turned into a description like "...and a Knight of the Order of the Sacred Garter". Thoughts? {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, November 17, 2015 (UTC)		Throwing this on here, but this goes for Evie and Jacob's pages as well - do we really need to put the "KG" in the text itself? I feel like their infoboxes suffice in pointing out they're part of the Order of the Sacred Garter, and to be honest, I just don't like the way the "KG" is integrated into the text. It feels really random imo. I'd even settle for it being turned into a description like "...and a Knight of the Order of the Sacred Garter". Thoughts? {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

			The description is already there so we don't have to add it but yes, no need to add KG to the description. To the infobox in brackets next to the 'Order of the Sacred Garter' sure, if it's needed there instead. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 17:56, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* KG */ new section

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	::Just read the part of the book where Evie reads the map, and it's super vague as to whether he read the map as well. Heck it's super vague as to whether ''she'' read it with Eagle Vision, just says: ''"As if on cue Evie saw how documents inserted into the notebook came together as a map. Having studied it, she snatched it up, going to leave."'' and that ''"The two of them followed the map, excited by the new discovery (...)"''. ''"Something occurred to Henry. Could they be heading in the direction of Queen Square?"'' Nothing to indicate Eagle Vision. Of course I haven't actually read the book, just skipped to that part, but so far nothing. -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 01:50, November 9, 2015 (UTC)		::Just read the part of the book where Evie reads the map, and it's super vague as to whether he read the map as well. Heck it's super vague as to whether ''she'' read it with Eagle Vision, just says: ''"As if on cue Evie saw how documents inserted into the notebook came together as a map. Having studied it, she snatched it up, going to leave."'' and that ''"The two of them followed the map, excited by the new discovery (...)"''. ''"Something occurred to Henry. Could they be heading in the direction of Queen Square?"'' Nothing to indicate Eagle Vision. Of course I haven't actually read the book, just skipped to that part, but so far nothing. -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 01:50, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

			== KG ==

			Throwing this on here, but this goes for Evie and Jacob's pages as well - do we really need to put the "KG" in the text itself? I feel like their infoboxes suffice in pointing out they're part of the Order of the Sacred Garter, and to be honest, I just don't like the way the "KG" is integrated into the text. It feels really random imo. I'd even settle for it being turned into a description like "...and a Knight of the Order of the Sacred Garter". Thoughts? {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Zero-ELEC: /* Eagle Vision? */ left comment

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	:Maybe it's mentioned in the ''Underworld'' novel somewhere? I haven't read it myself though, so I can't confirm :s {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 18:39, November 8, 2015 (UTC)		:Maybe it's mentioned in the ''Underworld'' novel somewhere? I haven't read it myself though, so I can't confirm :s {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 18:39, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

			::Just read the part of the book where Evie reads the map, and it's super vague as to whether he read the map as well. Heck it's super vague as to whether ''she'' read it with Eagle Vision, just says: ''"As if on cue Evie saw how documents inserted into the notebook came together as a map. Having studied it, she snatched it up, going to leave."'' and that ''"The two of them followed the map, excited by the new discovery (...)"''. ''"Something occurred to Henry. Could they be heading in the direction of Queen Square?"'' Nothing to indicate Eagle Vision. Of course I haven't actually read the book, just skipped to that part, but so far nothing. -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 01:50, November 9, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Eagle Vision? */

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	== Eagle Vision? ==		== Eagle Vision? ==

	Does Jayadeep have the ability to use [[Eagle Vision]]? During the memory where Evie infiltrates the Kenway Mansion where they reach it by using a map only visible through Eagle Vision, he comments on the map en route to the Mansion, saying something to the effect of "I think this map is pointing to the Kenway Mansion!".		Does Jayadeep have the ability to use [[Eagle Vision]]? During the memory where Evie infiltrates the Kenway Mansion where they reach it by using a map only visible through Eagle Vision, he comments on the map en route to the Mansion, saying something to the effect of "I think this map is pointing to the Kenway Mansion!".

	Could it be that he's viewing the map itself through Eagle Vision or is he simply reacting to the surroundings? Does ''Underworld'' say either way? It'd make sense for him to have Eagle Vision, given that his father did. -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 21:20, November 7, 2015 (UTC)		Could it be that he's viewing the map itself through Eagle Vision or is he simply reacting to the surroundings? Does ''Underworld'' say either way? It'd make sense for him to have Eagle Vision, given that his father did. -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 21:20, November 7, 2015 (UTC)
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	His father had eagle vision, so I think it is a safe assumption, however at this point an assumption is all it is.		His father had eagle vision, so I think it is a safe assumption, however at this point an assumption is all it is.
	[[Special:Contributions/208.107.215.16\|208.107.215.16]] 18:36, November 8, 2015 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/208.107.215.16\|208.107.215.16]] 18:36, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

			:Maybe it's mentioned in the ''Underworld'' novel somewhere? I haven't read it myself though, so I can't confirm :s {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 18:39, November 8, 2015 (UTC)