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imported>NinjaSheik: /* JTR Datamine Info */

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JTR Datamine Info

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	:::In stories, yes, but it's not shown anywhere if she was actually part of the investigation. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:05, December 2, 2015 (UTC)		:::In stories, yes, but it's not shown anywhere if she was actually part of the investigation. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:05, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

	==JTR Datamine Info===		==JTR Datamine Info==
	I don't want to, like, spam the characters' individuals pages with what I've gleaned so far from the JTR's localization packages, so I'm gonna put what I've discovered so far here since a lot of it has to do with the main plot. It's really quite fascinating to see what's buried inside the files!		I don't want to, like, spam the characters' individuals pages with what I've gleaned so far from the JTR's localization packages, so I'm gonna put what I've discovered so far here since a lot of it has to do with the main plot. It's really quite fascinating to see what's buried inside the files!

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	1.) Lydia was conceptualized as Jacob's ''daughter'', not his ''granddaughter'', in the early draft.		1.) Lydia was conceptualized as Jacob's ''daughter'', not his ''granddaughter'', in the early draft.

	2.) Jack's mother name is "revealed" in the draft, with the writers planning to have Jack be a child of an unseen NPC that's mentioned in the audio files of the game by the newsboys/girls, a woman named Jackie King (listed as "the armorer from the main game"). However, this ~~seem~~ to ~~contradicts~~ the "A Mother's Murder" database entry found in the game's files, as it never mentioned that Jack's mother runs an armory and was a normal contact of Jacob's.		2.) Jack's mother name is "revealed" in the draft, with the writers planning to have Jack be a child of an unseen NPC that's mentioned in the audio files of the game by the newsboys/girls, a woman named Jackie King (listed as "the armorer from the main game"). However, this seems to contradict the "A Mother's Murder" database entry found in the game's files, as it never mentioned that Jack's mother runs an armory and was a normal contact of Jacob's.

	3.) There is a smaller timeline for Evie in the game, where it mentions the Indian Brotherhood's efforts did very little to get rid of their oppressors, Evie's training, and how her marriage with Henry was been failing for years now by the time JTR's plot kicks off. The last point is possibly the closest to a canon fact in the game, as Jeffrey Yohalem, lead writer for ACS, has stated that Monima Das is not an descendent of Evie's, even though Henry is Arbaaz Mir and Pyara Kaur's only known child. This more or less "confirms" the speculation that fans have about Monima's family line, with Henry probably remarrying someone else and why Evie returned to London to help Jacob raise Lydia later on without having any children of their own~~, to our knowledge~~. Also, it mentions that Jacob's letter to Evie was originally conceptualized to be sent by Jack in order to lure Evie back to London.		3.) There is a smaller timeline for Evie in the game, where it mentions the Indian Brotherhood's efforts did very little to get rid of their oppressors, Evie's training, and how her marriage with Henry was been failing for years now by the time JTR's plot kicks off. The last point is possibly the closest to a canon fact in the game, as Jeffrey Yohalem, lead writer for ACS, has stated that Monima Das is not an descendent of Evie's, even though Henry is Arbaaz Mir and Pyara Kaur's only known child. This more or less "confirms" the speculation that fans have about Monima's family line, with Henry probably remarrying someone else and why Evie returned to London to help Jacob raise Lydia later on without having any children of their own. Also, it mentions that Jacob's letter to Evie was originally conceptualized to be sent by Jack in order to lure Evie back to London.

	4.) Jacob's character is less, per se, heroic. The originally draft for the JTR plotline included this as a small plot point, as Jacob is characterized a bit darker in his actions during his years apart from Evie, linking back to Jack ~~begins~~ to adopt a more ruthless method under Jacob's tutelage. In the draft, Abberline eventually reveals this to Evie later on the game, and the draft shows that when Evie finds Jacob after killing Jack, she approaches him warily with her blades drawn.		4.) Jacob's character is less, per se, heroic. The originally draft for the JTR plotline included this as a small plot point, as Jacob is characterized a bit darker in his actions during his years apart from Evie, linking back to Jack beginning to adopt a more ruthless method under Jacob's tutelage. In the draft, Abberline eventually reveals this to Evie later on the game, and the draft shows that when Evie finds Jacob after killing Jack, she approaches him warily with her blades drawn.

	Also, in the English localization packages, there's also a separate rough draft of a timeline in French, which I haven't had a chance to translate yet. It could offer more insight, and if I find anything else, I'll post it here.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik\|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik\|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)		Also, in the English localization packages, there's also a separate rough draft of a timeline in French, which I haven't had a chance to translate yet. It could offer more insight, and if I find anything else, I'll post it here.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik\|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik\|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

imported>NinjaSheik at 21:28, 15 August 2021

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	:::In stories, yes, but it's not shown anywhere if she was actually part of the investigation. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:05, December 2, 2015 (UTC)		:::In stories, yes, but it's not shown anywhere if she was actually part of the investigation. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:05, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

			==JTR Datamine Info===
			I don't want to, like, spam the characters' individuals pages with what I've gleaned so far from the JTR's localization packages, so I'm gonna put what I've discovered so far here since a lot of it has to do with the main plot. It's really quite fascinating to see what's buried inside the files!

			There is a ''detailed'' timeline and a basic storyline outline of an earlier draft for the JTR DLC. It details Jacob's years after the main events of ACS up to the events of the JTR. Again, keep in mind, this was an earlier draft, so a lot of the stuff I'm gonna mention and seen so far isn't really "canon", and what might be canon...well, I don't really know how the wiki operates with that sort of thing.

			1.) Lydia was conceptualized as Jacob's ''daughter'', not his ''granddaughter'', in the early draft.

			2.) Jack's mother name is "revealed" in the draft, with the writers planning to have Jack be a child of an unseen NPC that's mentioned in the audio files of the game by the newsboys/girls, a woman named Jackie King (listed as "the armorer from the main game"). However, this seem to contradicts the "A Mother's Murder" database entry found in the game's files, as it never mentioned that Jack's mother runs an armory and was a normal contact of Jacob's.

			3.) There is a smaller timeline for Evie in the game, where it mentions the Indian Brotherhood's efforts did very little to get rid of their oppressors, Evie's training, and how her marriage with Henry was been failing for years now by the time JTR's plot kicks off. The last point is possibly the closest to a canon fact in the game, as Jeffrey Yohalem, lead writer for ACS, has stated that Monima Das is not an descendent of Evie's, even though Henry is Arbaaz Mir and Pyara Kaur's only known child. This more or less "confirms" the speculation that fans have about Monima's family line, with Henry probably remarrying someone else and why Evie returned to London to help Jacob raise Lydia later on without having any children of their own, to our knowledge. Also, it mentions that Jacob's letter to Evie was originally conceptualized to be sent by Jack in order to lure Evie back to London.

			4.) Jacob's character is less, per se, heroic. The originally draft for the JTR plotline included this as a small plot point, as Jacob is characterized a bit darker in his actions during his years apart from Evie, linking back to Jack begins to adopt a more ruthless method under Jacob's tutelage. In the draft, Abberline eventually reveals this to Evie later on the game, and the draft shows that when Evie finds Jacob after killing Jack, she approaches him warily with her blades drawn.

			Also, in the English localization packages, there's also a separate rough draft of a timeline in French, which I haven't had a chance to translate yet. It could offer more insight, and if I find anything else, I'll post it here.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik\|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik\|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

imported>GamerSophie: /* Nellie and Weaversbrook */

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Nellie and Weaversbrook

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	:::I'm fairly sure it's Nellie Bly. A google search names her in pieces of fiction where she aids in the investigation of Jack the Ripper's identity, I think.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 16:00, December 2, 2015 (UTC)		:::I'm fairly sure it's Nellie Bly. A google search names her in pieces of fiction where she aids in the investigation of Jack the Ripper's identity, I think.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 16:00, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

			:::In stories, yes, but it's not shown anywhere if she was actually part of the investigation. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:05, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Bovkaffe at 16:00, 2 December 2015

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	::Yeah, same here. I checked out Nellie Bly, and though she sounds like she'd make an interesting character, I can't seem to find any info on whether she was in London at the time. Then again, neither was Arthur Conan Doyle in 1868, so it's not impossible. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)		::Yeah, same here. I checked out Nellie Bly, and though she sounds like she'd make an interesting character, I can't seem to find any info on whether she was in London at the time. Then again, neither was Arthur Conan Doyle in 1868, so it's not impossible. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

			:::I'm fairly sure it's Nellie Bly. A google search names her in pieces of fiction where she aids in the investigation of Jack the Ripper's identity, I think.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 16:00, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan at 15:54, 2 December 2015

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	:It could be a different Nellie or Nellie Bly, but I can't find if she actually was in London during 1888. If it is this Nellie, good job! [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 15:51, December 2, 2015 (UTC)		:It could be a different Nellie or Nellie Bly, but I can't find if she actually was in London during 1888. If it is this Nellie, good job! [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 15:51, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

			::Yeah, same here. I checked out Nellie Bly, and though she sounds like she'd make an interesting character, I can't seem to find any info on whether she was in London at the time. Then again, neither was Arthur Conan Doyle in 1868, so it's not impossible. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 15:54, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

imported>GamerSophie: /* Nellie and Weaversbrook */

2015-12-02T15:51:47Z

Nellie and Weaversbrook

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	:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly		:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly
	:I have no idea who may be Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)		:I have no idea who may be Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

			:It could be a different Nellie or Nellie Bly, but I can't find if she actually was in London during 1888. If it is this Nellie, good job! [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 15:51, December 2, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Stormbeast: Your auto-translate is at it again

2015-12-02T00:06:51Z

Your auto-translate is at it again

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	==Nellie y Weaversbrook==		==Nellie and Weaversbrook==
	~~Compruebe en el cuadro de caracteres de~~ Syndicate. ~~Cualquier prueba que en realidad van a aparecer~~? [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] (~~charla~~) 19:37 30 ~~de noviembre de~~ 2015 (UTC)		Check on the characters box of Syndicate. Any prove that they will actually appear? [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 19:37, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

	:~~Voy a copiar mi respuesta a aquí una aclaración~~: ''"~~. Los logros Uplay relacionados con el~~ Jack ~~el Destripador~~ DLC ~~fueron puestos en línea recientemente~~ - ~~tanto~~ Nellie y Weaversbrook, ~~sean quienes sean~~, ~~son nombrados en esos logros Creo que están asociados que necesitas para completar las actividades para~~, similar a Ned y Clara ~~y los demás~~. '' {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}}"05:44 1 ~~de diciembre de~~ 2015 (UTC)		:I'll just copy my response over to here for clarification: ''"The UPlay achievements related to the Jack the Ripper DLC were put online recently - both Nellie and Weaversbrook, whoever they are, are named in those achievements. I believe they're associates you need to complete activities for, similar to Ned and Clara and the others."'' {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 05:44, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

	:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly		:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly
	:I have no idea who may be Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)		:I have no idea who may be Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Spanish assassin: /* Nellie y Weaversbrook */

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Nellie y Weaversbrook

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	:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly		:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly
	:~~No tengo ni~~ idea ~~de quién puede ser~~ Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)		:I have no idea who may be Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Spanish assassin: /* Nellie and Weaversbrook */

2015-12-01T23:43:59Z

Nellie and Weaversbrook

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	==Nellie ~~and~~ Weaversbrook==		==Nellie y Weaversbrook==
	~~Check on the characters box of~~ Syndicate. ~~Any prove that they will actually appear~~? [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] (~~[[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]~~) 19:37~~, November~~ 30, 2015 (UTC)		Compruebe en el cuadro de caracteres de Syndicate. Cualquier prueba que en realidad van a aparecer? [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] (charla) 19:37 30 de noviembre de 2015 (UTC)

	:~~I'll just copy my response over to here for clarification~~: ''"~~The UPlay achievements related to the~~ Jack ~~the Ripper~~ DLC ~~were put online recently~~ - ~~both~~ Nellie ~~and~~ Weaversbrook, ~~whoever they are~~, ~~are named in those achievements. I believe they're associates you need to complete activities for~~, similar to Ned ~~and~~ Clara ~~and the others~~."'' {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 05:44, December 1, 2015 (UTC)		:Voy a copiar mi respuesta a aquí una aclaración: ''". Los logros Uplay relacionados con el Jack el Destripador DLC fueron puestos en línea recientemente - tanto Nellie y Weaversbrook, sean quienes sean, son nombrados en esos logros Creo que están asociados que necesitas para completar las actividades para, similar a Ned y Clara y los demás. '' {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}}"05:44 1 de diciembre de 2015 (UTC)

			:Well, Nellie is an interesting character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nellie_Bly
			:No tengo ni idea de quién puede ser Weaversbrook [[User:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:red;">'''Spanish assassin'''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spanish assassin\|<span style="color:no;">Talk</span>]]) 23:43, December 1, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Nellie and Weaversbrook */

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Nellie and Weaversbrook

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	==Nellie and Weaversbrook==		==Nellie and Weaversbrook==
	Check on the characters box of Syndicate. Any prove that they will actually appear? [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 19:37, November 30, 2015 (UTC)		Check on the characters box of Syndicate. Any prove that they will actually appear? [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 19:37, November 30, 2015 (UTC)

			:I'll just copy my response over to here for clarification: ''"The UPlay achievements related to the Jack the Ripper DLC were put online recently - both Nellie and Weaversbrook, whoever they are, are named in those achievements. I believe they're associates you need to complete activities for, similar to Ned and Clara and the others."'' {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 05:44, December 1, 2015 (UTC)