Talk:Harlan Cunningham - Revision history

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	:Thank you for the information,both.Abu'l Nuqoud is a decent example to this(though I still deem that insufficient).Alan Turing was more like a victim of Templar policy for order.The link is great!I really want to see a homo Templar!I did tell that I'm not here to give that topic.I think I need more of "headcannon".[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:31, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		:Thank you for the information,both.Abu'l Nuqoud is a decent example to this(though I still deem that insufficient).Alan Turing was more like a victim of Templar policy for order.The link is great!I really want to see a homo Templar!I did tell that I'm not here to give that topic.I think I need more of "headcannon".[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:31, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			==Voice actor?==
			Harlan voice in heard during the credits of ''Brotherhood''. Anyone know the voice actor for him? [[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 14:55, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

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	:So Templars would be just as willing to accept members of various sexualities into their Order, as long as they are loyal to their ideals. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 15:10, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		:So Templars would be just as willing to accept members of various sexualities into their Order, as long as they are loyal to their ideals. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 15:10, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			:Thank you for the information,both.Abu'l Nuqoud is a decent example to this(though I still deem that insufficient).Alan Turing was more like a victim of Templar policy for order.The link is great!I really want to see a homo Templar!I did tell that I'm not here to give that topic.I think I need more of "headcannon".[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:31, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Homos */

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	I'm not quite certain I can make everything out clearly in your message, but if you're here to discuss the 'morality' of homosexuality or any other form sexuality I will have to ask you to refrain from doing so. This is not the place to start a flame war about sexuality, nor will I allow any group of people to suffer any form of hate speech. To entertain your message though, [[Abu'l Nuqoud]] was a homosexual Templar, as was [[Alan Turing]]. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:04, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		I'm not quite certain I can make everything out clearly in your message, but if you're here to discuss the 'morality' of homosexuality or any other form sexuality I will have to ask you to refrain from doing so. This is not the place to start a flame war about sexuality, nor will I allow any group of people to suffer any form of hate speech. To entertain your message though, [[Abu'l Nuqoud]] was a homosexual Templar, as was [[Alan Turing]]. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:04, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			:A writer working on the ''Assassin's Creed'' franchise was also recently asked a tangentially-related question. Because the Assassins are shown as liberal, accepting all kinds of people into the Brotherhood like the transgender [[Eric Cooper]], a person wondered if the Templars would be similar in that regard.

			:[http://jnadiger.tumblr.com/post/113791512387/oh-wait-pops-back-in-because-i-actually-thought "IMO, Assassins & Templars only want you work hard and devote yourself to their cause. I don’t think anything else matters to them."]

			:So Templars would be just as willing to accept members of various sexualities into their Order, as long as they are loyal to their ideals. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 15:10, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Homos */

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	:::I'm looking forward to "welcome" a homo Assassin hero.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:00, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		:::I'm looking forward to "welcome" a homo Assassin hero.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:00, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

	I'm not quite certain I can make everything out clearly in your message, but if you're here to discuss the 'morality' of homosexuality or any other form sexuality I will have to ask you to refrain from doing so. This is not the place to start a flame war about sexuality, nor will I allow any group of people to suffer any form of hate speech. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:04, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		I'm not quite certain I can make everything out clearly in your message, but if you're here to discuss the 'morality' of homosexuality or any other form sexuality I will have to ask you to refrain from doing so. This is not the place to start a flame war about sexuality, nor will I allow any group of people to suffer any form of hate speech. To entertain your message though, [[Abu'l Nuqoud]] was a homosexual Templar, as was [[Alan Turing]]. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:04, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Homos */

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	:::To be more scientific here(looks quite inopportune),the reason for my "prejudice" toward homosexuallity is not only simple feeling,but reasoning,I tried to fantasize it.It is more important to define the appeal and prove most of the homo people were born like that without later stimulation/experience than simply be neutral("for they harm my children not,right?"),effectively discourage people with questions for it and protect the actions of the growing group(you are doing this).		:::To be more scientific here(looks quite inopportune),the reason for my "prejudice" toward homosexuallity is not only simple feeling,but reasoning,I tried to fantasize it.It is more important to define the appeal and prove most of the homo people were born like that without later stimulation/experience than simply be neutral("for they harm my children not,right?"),effectively discourage people with questions for it and protect the actions of the growing group(you are doing this).
	:::I'm looking forward to "welcome" a homo Assassin hero.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:00, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		:::I'm looking forward to "welcome" a homo Assassin hero.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:00, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			I'm not quite certain I can make everything out clearly in your message, but if you're here to discuss the 'morality' of homosexuality or any other form sexuality I will have to ask you to refrain from doing so. This is not the place to start a flame war about sexuality, nor will I allow any group of people to suffer any form of hate speech. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:04, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

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	:::You know, it's funny that you added quotation marks to homophobics, because that's exactly what you're coming across as. These characters exist because, surprise, gay people exist in real life - to make all characters in a series heterosexual is a gross misrepresentation of real life. If you think Ubisoft is just making these characters gay to score points with the gay crowd, you're sorely mistaken, and it says far more about you than it says about Ubisoft. Have you played ''Dragon Age'', ''The Last of Us: Left Behind'' or ''Gone Home''? Cause all those games have way more to say about the subject of LGBT characters than ''Assassin's Creed''. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 11:47, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		:::You know, it's funny that you added quotation marks to homophobics, because that's exactly what you're coming across as. These characters exist because, surprise, gay people exist in real life - to make all characters in a series heterosexual is a gross misrepresentation of real life. If you think Ubisoft is just making these characters gay to score points with the gay crowd, you're sorely mistaken, and it says far more about you than it says about Ubisoft. Have you played ''Dragon Age'', ''The Last of Us: Left Behind'' or ''Gone Home''? Cause all those games have way more to say about the subject of LGBT characters than ''Assassin's Creed''. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 11:47, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			:::Sorry for bad format edit,unfamiliar to me.I think we should accept this:in the game's timeline,Assassin faction is good spiritually in morality(though not admitted by themselves),while Templars are practical utilitarians,with ideals but not good.There was implicit incest affairs in the latter,which can be seen in ''AC:Brotherhood'',in which Templars are depicted purely badass criminals.If,in the future,there's still no homo people designed for Templar faction to prove the words you said above——"''gay people exist in real life - to make all characters in a series heterosexual is a gross misrepresentation of real life.''"——I will define that as favouring,with more confidence(no offense).
			:::To be more scientific here(looks quite inopportune),the reason for my "prejudice" toward homosexuallity is not only simple feeling,but reasoning,I tried to fantasize it.It is more important to define the appeal and prove most of the homo people were born like that without later stimulation/experience than simply be neutral("for they harm my children not,right?"),effectively discourage people with questions for it and protect the actions of the growing group(you are doing this).
			:::I'm looking forward to "welcome" a homo Assassin hero.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 15:00, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

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	::To Crook.It's more of a scientific question,not of morality or propriety to be discussed here.I don't think adding those content or choosing a "side" is beneficial to the game,but the publisher.Additionally,being neutral/noninterference=support,if you deem "homophobics" like me prejudicial or evil.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 11:21, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		::To Crook.It's more of a scientific question,not of morality or propriety to be discussed here.I don't think adding those content or choosing a "side" is beneficial to the game,but the publisher.Additionally,being neutral/noninterference=support,if you deem "homophobics" like me prejudicial or evil.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 11:21, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			:::"A scientific question"? Do tell me where I'm supposed to see science in your original message. All I see is prejudice.

			:::Forgive me for being so forthright, but do you see how ridiculous you're being? Harlan Cunningham is revealed to be gay and has a boyfriend, and you're talking about ''Assassin's Creed'' becoming a "stage for gays". They are two freaking ''side characters''. Most players will never even have heard of these two. Leonardo da Vinci would be a better example for a prominent gay character, and his sexuality wasn't explicitly stated until the ''Da Vinci Disappearance'' DLC.

			:::I don't know to which event in ''Assassin's Creed 3'' you're referring and I'm not even going to touch your comparison of homosexuality with incest ("Everything is permitted" is an observation as to how a person must live with the consequences of their actions; it does not mean one should indulge in a life of debauchery, like [[Marquis de Sade]]). How is sex between men even remotely similar to sex between siblings?

			:::You know, it's funny that you added quotation marks to homophobics, because that's exactly what you're coming across as. These characters exist because, surprise, gay people exist in real life - to make all characters in a series heterosexual is a gross misrepresentation of real life. If you think Ubisoft is just making these characters gay to score points with the gay crowd, you're sorely mistaken, and it says far more about you than it says about Ubisoft. Have you played ''Dragon Age'', ''The Last of Us: Left Behind'' or ''Gone Home''? Cause all those games have way more to say about the subject of LGBT characters than ''Assassin's Creed''. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 11:47, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

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	::I'm also curious what this thinly-veiled homophobic rant was about. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 10:41, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		::I'm also curious what this thinly-veiled homophobic rant was about. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 10:41, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

	::To Crook.It's more of a scientific question,not of morality or propriety to be discussed here.I don't think adding those content or choosing a "side" is beneficial to the game,but the publisher.Additionally,being neutral/noninterference=support,if you deem homophobics like me prejudicial or evil.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 11:21, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		::To Crook.It's more of a scientific question,not of morality or propriety to be discussed here.I don't think adding those content or choosing a "side" is beneficial to the game,but the publisher.Additionally,being neutral/noninterference=support,if you deem "homophobics" like me prejudicial or evil.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 11:21, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

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	::I'm also curious what this thinly-veiled homophobic rant was about. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 10:41, April 6, 2015 (UTC)		::I'm also curious what this thinly-veiled homophobic rant was about. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 10:41, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

			::To Crook.It's more of a scientific question,not of morality or propriety to be discussed here.I don't think adding those content or choosing a "side" is beneficial to the game,but the publisher.Additionally,being neutral/noninterference=support,if you deem homophobics like me prejudicial or evil.[[User:Sleeplust\|Sleeplust]] ([[User talk:Sleeplust\|talk]]) 11:21, April 6, 2015 (UTC)