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		<title>Soranin: /* East Francia &amp; HRE as foundations? */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;East Francia &amp;amp; HRE as foundations?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Talkheader}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Talkheader}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==East Francia &amp;amp; HRE as foundations?==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==East Francia &amp;amp; HRE as foundations?==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&#039;t count as foundation datas. Best regards. [[User:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;DeathNyx&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] ([[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Message Wall&lt;/del&gt;:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;ask&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 11:36, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&#039;t count as foundation datas. Best regards. [[User:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;DeathNyx&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] ([[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;User talk&lt;/ins&gt;:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;ask&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 11:36, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:This is not a bad question, DeathNyx. Currently, we are in the process of revising our country articles to ensure that they deal with civilizations as a whole rather in the way of Wikipedia where they are simultaneously centered around both the current state and the civilization without distinction. So to answer your question, this article is about the Germany civilization throughout history, not immediately the modern Federal Republic of Germany. Both East Francia and the Holy Roman Empire are conventionally regarded as the predecessor states of the Federal Republic of Germany, just as West Francia is a predecessor state of the French Fifth Republic. Of course, the boundaries of this civilization is not necessarily fixed since the French are descendants of Celts and the Germanic Franks while France and Germany originated as one state, the Carolingian Empire also known simply as Francia, but we can also generalize these boundaries by using modern states as a reference to an extent.  [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:13, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:This is not a bad question, DeathNyx. Currently, we are in the process of revising our country articles to ensure that they deal with civilizations as a whole rather in the way of Wikipedia where they are simultaneously centered around both the current state and the civilization without distinction. So to answer your question, this article is about the Germany civilization throughout history, not immediately the modern Federal Republic of Germany. Both East Francia and the Holy Roman Empire are conventionally regarded as the predecessor states of the Federal Republic of Germany, just as West Francia is a predecessor state of the French Fifth Republic. Of course, the boundaries of this civilization is not necessarily fixed since the French are descendants of Celts and the Germanic Franks while France and Germany originated as one state, the Carolingian Empire also known simply as Francia, but we can also generalize these boundaries by using modern states as a reference to an extent.  [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:13, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Soranin</name></author>
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		<title>imported&gt;Sol Pacificus at 16:13, 22 October 2018</title>
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		<updated>2018-10-22T16:13:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&#039;t count as foundation datas. Best regards. [[User:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;DeathNyx&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] ([[Message Wall:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;ask]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;small&lt;/del&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;11&lt;/del&gt;:&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;36&lt;/del&gt;, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{Talkheader}}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==East Francia &amp;amp; HRE as foundations?==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&#039;t count as foundation datas. Best regards. [[User:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;DeathNyx&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] ([[Message Wall:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&quot;&amp;gt;ask&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 11:36, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:This is not a bad question, DeathNyx. Currently, we are in the process of revising our country articles to ensure that they deal with civilizations as a whole rather in the way of Wikipedia where they are simultaneously centered around both the current state and the civilization without distinction. So to answer your question, this article is about the Germany civilization throughout history, not immediately the modern Federal Republic of Germany. Both East Francia and the Holy Roman Empire are conventionally regarded as the predecessor states of the Federal Republic of Germany, just as West Francia is a predecessor state of the French Fifth Republic. Of course, the boundaries of this civilization is not necessarily fixed since the French are descendants of Celts and the Germanic Franks while France and Germany originated as one state, the Carolingian Empire also known simply as Francia, but we can also generalize these boundaries by using modern states as a reference to an extent.  [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sol Pacificus&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;]]&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero&lt;/ins&gt;)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;&amp;lt;/&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;sup&lt;/ins&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;16&lt;/ins&gt;:&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;13&lt;/ins&gt;, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;DeathNyx: Created page with &quot;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&#039;t count as foundatio...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2018-10-22T11:36:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&amp;#039;t count as foundatio...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Páàjì titun&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;This page is for the present day country right? Are we sure that East Francia or the Holy Roman Empire are the same as present day Germany? They shouldn&amp;#039;t count as foundation datas. Best regards. [[User:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;b&amp;gt;DeathNyx&amp;lt;/b&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;]] ([[Message Wall:DeathNyx|&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color: #000; color: #FFFFFF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;ask]])&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 11:36, October 22, 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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