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	Now, speaking of your example. No, that doesn't mean Qin Shi Huang was the founder of such order. We can assume as much that he was a member of that organization. The difference is this: in the case of Qin Shi Huang, we have no proof. But here, with Caesar, we have some hints (the ones I mentioned above).[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 02:18, February 6, 2018 (UTC)		Now, speaking of your example. No, that doesn't mean Qin Shi Huang was the founder of such order. We can assume as much that he was a member of that organization. The difference is this: in the case of Qin Shi Huang, we have no proof. But here, with Caesar, we have some hints (the ones I mentioned above).[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 02:18, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

			A.gao.96, at this point you're arguing implausible semantics, which nobody else here has agreed with thus far. There have now not just been one but two major indications that Caesar led the Order in the years leading up to his death, and you're willing to throw them away because of these implausible semantics. At this point everyone else agrees that this is the hand we've been dealt. Maybe you turn out to be right, but everyone else participating in this discussion and Jasca Ducato have agreed that based on the in-game dialogue we do not agree. Let's leave it at this for now, and maybe in the future evidence to the contrary will show itself. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 11:00, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

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	Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)



			Again, for him to do such reforms, he must be a member of the organization. Caesar must have known all the Order's secrets and strategies to change it. Let's not forget that the Glyphs in ACII says that Cleopatra had stronger connections with the Templar Order (The Order of Ancients) and that started when she allied herself with Julius Caesar. From that, we can assume that Caesar came into contact with them. If Septimius worshipped him and Rufio spoke for him, it means that Caesar was not just an ally, but a member.

			And yes, subtitles can contain a lot of mistakes. Especially Rogue, the translation to Latinamerican Spanish is just awful.

			Now, speaking of your example. No, that doesn't mean Qin Shi Huang was the founder of such order. We can assume as much that he was a member of that organization. The difference is this: in the case of Qin Shi Huang, we have no proof. But here, with Caesar, we have some hints (the ones I mentioned above).[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 02:18, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

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	Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)		Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

	Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, ~~the~~ Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is ~~similar Order~~ of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

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	Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)		Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

	Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization.<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization.		Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

	~~I want to explain that Qin Shi Huang is not member of this secret organization and this "order" isn't refer to an organization. It refer to Qin Shi Huang build a strong stability~~. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

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	Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization.<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization.		Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization.<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization.

	Qin Shi Huang is not member of this secret organization and this "order" isn't refer to an organization. It refer to Qin Shi Huang build a strong stability. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		I want to explain that Qin Shi Huang is not member of this secret organization and this "order" isn't refer to an organization. It refer to Qin Shi Huang build a strong stability. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

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	Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)		Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

	~~Or maybe~~ Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization.<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. ~~Maybe~~ Qin Shi Huang is not member of this secret organization and this "order" isn't refer to an organization. It refer to Qin Shi Huang build a strong stability. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization.<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization.

			Qin Shi Huang is not member of this secret organization and this "order" isn't refer to an organization. It refer to Qin Shi Huang build a strong stability. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

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	Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)		Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

	Or maybe Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be ~~member~~ of ~~the Order~~"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar ~~Order~~ of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is ~~the founder~~ of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		Or maybe Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, the Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization.<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. Maybe Qin Shi Huang is not member of this secret organization and this "order" isn't refer to an organization. It refer to Qin Shi Huang build a strong stability. [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

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	Some pages have yet to be updated fully or at all, so I just want to ask to make it clear: what was Caesar's offical offiliation with the Order of the Ancients? Was he a puppet? Was he an ally? Or was he a member and then leader? So may confusing things an contradictions on multiple pages, I just want it made clear. [[User:SkyGuy\|<span style="color:aqua;background:blue;">SkyGuy</span>]]-[[User talk:SkyGuy\|<span style="color:blue;background:aqua;">Let's chat!</span>]] 02:46, November 22, 2017 (UTC)		Some pages have yet to be updated fully or at all, so I just want to ask to make it clear: what was Caesar's offical offiliation with the Order of the Ancients? Was he a puppet? Was he an ally? Or was he a member and then leader? So may confusing things an contradictions on multiple pages, I just want it made clear. [[User:SkyGuy\|<span style="color:aqua;background:blue;">SkyGuy</span>]]-[[User talk:SkyGuy\|<span style="color:blue;background:aqua;">Let's chat!</span>]] 02:46, November 22, 2017 (UTC)

	What evidence proof that Caesar is one of the Order? [[A.gao.96]] 14:49, February 3, 2018 (UTC)		What evidence proof that Caesar is one of the Order? [[User: A.gao.96]] 14:49, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

	The actual main game's ending leaves things ambiguous, but already seems to imply that Caesar is the Order's leader when Aya says he's now the king of the order, and Septimius calls him the father of understanding. During his death scene when all the members of the Ancients appear behind Rufio, he says that Caesar built a strong order. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 10:42, February 3, 2018 (UTC)		The actual main game's ending leaves things ambiguous, but already seems to imply that Caesar is the Order's leader when Aya says he's now the king of the order, and Septimius calls him the father of understanding. During his death scene when all the members of the Ancients appear behind Rufio, he says that Caesar built a strong order. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 10:42, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
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	Rufio said that Caesar built a strong order before he was stabbed in the back by your cowardly wife. This order does not mean an organization. It mean that Templars pursue the things: order.		Rufio said that Caesar built a strong order before he was stabbed in the back by your cowardly wife. This order does not mean an organization. It mean that Templars pursue the things: order.

	His name isn't display on target list at Assassin's Creed Origins meau. Every member of the Order display on target list at Assassin's Creed Origins meau. [[A.gao.96]] 19:42, February 3, 2018 (UTC)		His name isn't display on target list at Assassin's Creed Origins meau. Every member of the Order display on target list at Assassin's Creed Origins meau. [[User: A.gao.96]] 19:42, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

	: I disagree. "Built a strong order" more likely seems to refer to an organization or a group itself rather than bringing "order". Also, just because his name isn't on the target list doesn't mean his not a member, if not leader, of the Order itself. The dialogue already does seem to point out his affiliations. [[User:XOdeyssusx\|XOdeyssusx]] ([[User talk:XOdeyssusx\|talk]]) 13:01, February 3, 2018 (UTC)		: I disagree. "Built a strong order" more likely seems to refer to an organization or a group itself rather than bringing "order". Also, just because his name isn't on the target list doesn't mean his not a member, if not leader, of the Order itself. The dialogue already does seem to point out his affiliations. [[User:XOdeyssusx\|XOdeyssusx]] ([[User talk:XOdeyssusx\|talk]]) 13:01, February 3, 2018 (UTC)
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	One does not commonly refer to "an order" when talking about order as in stability. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 16:25, February 3, 2018 (UTC)		One does not commonly refer to "an order" when talking about order as in stability. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 16:25, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

	If Rufio said to "build a strong order"and Aya says "Caesar is now the king of the order", they emphasized that the order is an organization or a group.It should be used capital letter with "Order" and written that "Caesar built a strong Order before he was stabbed in the back by your cowardly wife." and "Caesar now the king of the Order." The capital and lower case letter with "order" have different meanings. The capital letter with "Order" refer to an organization or a group. The lower case letter with "order" refer to stability. [~~http~~:~~//assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink~~ A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		If Rufio said to "build a strong order"and Aya says "Caesar is now the king of the order", they emphasized that the order is an organization or a group.It should be used capital letter with "Order" and written that "Caesar built a strong Order before he was stabbed in the back by your cowardly wife." and "Caesar now the king of the Order." The capital and lower case letter with "order" have different meanings. The capital letter with "Order" refer to an organization or a group. The lower case letter with "order" refer to stability. [[User: A.gao.96]] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)

	Are you questioning whether "So Caesar is king of the order now?" refers to the Order of the Ancients? Because in the context of the conversation, there is zero way that can refer to anything else. As you may notice there, for whatever reason the word 'king' is spelled with a capital K in the subtitles while the o in 'order' isn't and should show that this by no means holds any sway in the discussion. The subtitles aren't a literary masterpiece. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:15, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		Are you questioning whether "So Caesar is king of the order now?" refers to the Order of the Ancients? Because in the context of the conversation, there is zero way that can refer to anything else. As you may notice there, for whatever reason the word 'king' is spelled with a capital K in the subtitles while the o in 'order' isn't and should show that this by no means holds any sway in the discussion. The subtitles aren't a literary masterpiece. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:15, February 4, 2018 (UTC)
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	Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)		Having Septimius saying that and the end of Rufio, he could assume that Caesar made something for The Order, and for him to do that, he must be a member of it. [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 01:09, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

	Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [~~http~~:~~//assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/A.gao.96?flow=create-page-article-redlink~~ A.gao.96] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)		Or Caesar assist the Order to build a strong stability. Rufio and Septimius appreciated or worshiped him to make something for the stability and defined him to build a stong stability basis. So Rufio and Septimius think that he is the Father of Understanding. Caesar was never join the Order. If some figure assist Templars or the Order of the Ancients to achieve their purpose, we said " he must be one of them"?<br />Are you sure 100% in the subtitles a lot of mistakes? Or the subtitles was other meanings, you wrong to understand 100% meanings?<br />For example: If Assassin's Creed take place in Qin dynasty, Assassin assassinate the member of secret organization which is similar Order of the Ancients and Templar Order, he said "Qin Shi Huang was foundation of the order." It does mean Qin Shi Huang is founder of this secret organization?<br />On the other side,this secret organization seemingly esisted and assisted King Zhou of Shang (a tyrant and the last king of Shang dynasty) to ruled the China during Shang dynasty, as Stone tablet, issued in 1046 BCE, contained sensitive information concerning this secret organization. [[User: A.gao.96]] 11:33, February 4, 2018 (UTC)