Talk:Crystal Balls - Revision history

imported>Awyman13 at 18:53, 23 November 2020

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	::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. Also the question was "(What did Elizabeth Jane Weston discover in John Dee's room?)", not "What type of Piece of Eden did Edward Kelley possess?" John Dee indeed had an Apple of Eden in '''''his''''' armoire. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. Also the question was "(What did Elizabeth Jane Weston discover in John Dee's room?)", not "What type of Piece of Eden did Edward Kelley possess?" John Dee indeed had an Apple of Eden in '''''his''''' armoire. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

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			Should it be noted that in Valhalla, Grom was trying to use it to free Juno. After killing him, Eivor can interact with a wall in a cave nearby with Isu symbols and hears Juno's voice. --'''''[[User:awyman13\|<font style="color:Green">awyman13</font>]]''''' <small>('''[[User talk:awyman13\|<font style="color:Silver">Talk</font>]]/[[Special:Editcount/Awyman13\|<font style="color:Black">Work</font>]])'''</small> 18:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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	I know Kelley referred to the Piece as a Crystal Ball, but was that really one of the Crystal Balls? Didn't he later send a portrait of the Judgement of Paris, and point out that the Golden Apple, was the same thing he used earlier? -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 16:41, December 28, 2012 (UTC)		I know Kelley referred to the Piece as a Crystal Ball, but was that really one of the Crystal Balls? Didn't he later send a portrait of the Judgement of Paris, and point out that the Golden Apple, was the same thing he used earlier? -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 16:41, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi at 20:20, 22 January 2013

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	:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

	::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. Also the question was "(What did Elizabeth Jane Weston discover in John Dee's room?)", not "What type of Piece of Eden did Edward Kelley possess?" John Dee indeed had an Apple of Eden in '''''his''''' armoire~~, but this Apple is not Edward Kelley's~~. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. Also the question was "(What did Elizabeth Jane Weston discover in John Dee's room?)", not "What type of Piece of Eden did Edward Kelley possess?" John Dee indeed had an Apple of Eden in '''''his''''' armoire. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it. */

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	:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

	::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. Also the question was "(What did Elizabeth Jane Weston discover in John Dee's room?)", not "What type of Piece of Eden did Edward Kelley possess?" John Dee indeed had an Apple of Eden in '''''his''''' armoire, but this Apple is not Edward Kelley's. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it. */

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Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it.

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	:::I have read it, thanks very much. There's no evidence that they're in possession of two artifacts. The illustration appears to show a crystal ball, but that could very well just be illustrating what Elizabeth is imagining, considering the floating scroll around it and all. Also, at that point all she has to go on is what her mother says, and her mother might not be telling the whole truth (both concerning the "crystal ball" part and the "speaking with angels" part). What we DO know for sure, however, is that when Elizabeth sneaks into the office and actually does find an artifact, it's gold rather than clear.		:::I have read it, thanks very much. There's no evidence that they're in possession of two artifacts. The illustration appears to show a crystal ball, but that could very well just be illustrating what Elizabeth is imagining, considering the floating scroll around it and all. Also, at that point all she has to go on is what her mother says, and her mother might not be telling the whole truth (both concerning the "crystal ball" part and the "speaking with angels" part). What we DO know for sure, however, is that when Elizabeth sneaks into the office and actually does find an artifact, it's gold rather than clear.
	:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

			::::What it "could very well" is not what is shown. It is explicitly referred to as a "crystal ball", and I don't seem to remember any of the other ''Project Legacy'' memories having any images of what the subject merely 'imagines'. We do not base our articles off of a particular interpretation. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 20:14, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

imported>KedaseDerragar: /* Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it. */

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	:Please read [[Divine Science: Chapter 3 - Elizabeth Jane Weston]] instead. Not to mention that ''Initiates'' has been wrong before, and ''Initiates'' does not dictate canon. The Apple is not used to "communicate with angels" regardless, so I find that quite odd. Unless the Apple is suddenly a wonder device capable of ''everything''. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 19:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		:Please read [[Divine Science: Chapter 3 - Elizabeth Jane Weston]] instead. Not to mention that ''Initiates'' has been wrong before, and ''Initiates'' does not dictate canon. The Apple is not used to "communicate with angels" regardless, so I find that quite odd. Unless the Apple is suddenly a wonder device capable of ''everything''. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 19:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
			:::I have read it, thanks very much. There's no evidence that they're in possession of two artifacts. The illustration appears to show a crystal ball, but that could very well just be illustrating what Elizabeth is imagining, considering the floating scroll around it and all. Also, at that point all she has to go on is what her mother says, and her mother might not be telling the whole truth (both concerning the "crystal ball" part and the "speaking with angels" part). What we DO know for sure, however, is that when Elizabeth sneaks into the office and actually does find an artifact, it's gold rather than clear.
			:::Perhaps the whole "speaking with angels" thing is just Elizabeth's mother's way of explaining how they're obtaining the knowledge of the Apple? She doesn't seem privy to the process herself, so her explanation to a five-year-old doesn't really strike me as reliable evidence. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 20:05, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it. */

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	Assasson's Creed initiates confirmed on 21 January, 2013 that Edward kelley's Piece of Eden was an Apple rather than a Crystal Ball. The previous edits that removed it from this article had been undone, so I removed it again. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 19:49, January 22, 2013 (UTC)		Assasson's Creed initiates confirmed on 21 January, 2013 that Edward kelley's Piece of Eden was an Apple rather than a Crystal Ball. The previous edits that removed it from this article had been undone, so I removed it again. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 19:49, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

			:Please read [[Divine Science: Chapter 3 - Elizabeth Jane Weston]] instead. Not to mention that ''Initiates'' has been wrong before, and ''Initiates'' does not dictate canon. The Apple is not used to "communicate with angels" regardless, so I find that quite odd. Unless the Apple is suddenly a wonder device capable of ''everything''. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 19:56, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

imported>KedaseDerragar: /* Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it. */ new section

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	I just removed the mention of Kelley from this article. -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 18:52, December 28, 2012 (UTC)		I just removed the mention of Kelley from this article. -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 18:52, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

			== Kelley's PoE is NOT a crystal ball; please do not re-add it. ==

			Assasson's Creed initiates confirmed on 21 January, 2013 that Edward kelley's Piece of Eden was an Apple rather than a Crystal Ball. The previous edits that removed it from this article had been undone, so I removed it again. [[User:KedaseDerragar\|KedaseDerragar]] ([[User talk:KedaseDerragar\|talk]]) 19:49, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

imported>IlMualim at 18:52, 28 December 2012

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	Edward Kelley had an Apple of Eden. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC;font-size:19px;color:#FF033E;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:FlamencoD;color:#9966CC;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 18:35, December 28, 2012 (UTC)		Edward Kelley had an Apple of Eden. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC;font-size:19px;color:#FF033E;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:FlamencoD;color:#9966CC;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 18:35, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

			I just removed the mention of Kelley from this article. -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 18:52, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

imported>Amnestyyy at 18:35, 28 December 2012

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	I know Kelley referred to the Piece as a Crystal Ball, but was that really one of the Crystal Balls? Didn't he later send a portrait of the Judgement of Paris, and point out that the Golden Apple, was the same thing he used earlier? -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 16:41, December 28, 2012 (UTC)		I know Kelley referred to the Piece as a Crystal Ball, but was that really one of the Crystal Balls? Didn't he later send a portrait of the Judgement of Paris, and point out that the Golden Apple, was the same thing he used earlier? -- [[User:IlMualim\|<span style="font-family:Brush Script MT;font-size:20px;color:#008000;">'''IlMualim'''</span>]] [[User Talk:IlMualim\|<sup><span style="font-family:Forte;font-size:10px;color:#8B0000">Wanna Chat?</span></sup>]] 16:41, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


			Edward Kelley had an Apple of Eden. [[User:Amnestyyy\|<span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC;font-size:19px;color:#FF033E;">'''Nesty'''</span>]] [[User_Talk:Amnestyyy\|<sup><span style="font-family:FlamencoD;color:#9966CC;">Contact me!</span></sup>]] 18:35, December 28, 2012 (UTC)