Talk:Cryptic Messages - Revision history

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			==Misc==

	I've completed the game and looked at this article for help. I was wong. This only provides a few messasges. The youtube video's are hard to understand soo...		I've completed the game and looked at this article for help. I was wong. This only provides a few messasges. The youtube video's are hard to understand soo...
	if any one can decode the messages and tell me I'll edit the page to include the rest of the messages--[[User:ThePieceOfEden\|ThePieceOfEden]] 10:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly.		if any one can decode the messages and tell me I'll edit the page to include the rest of the messages--[[User:ThePieceOfEden\|ThePieceOfEden]] 10:38, 21 July 2009 (UTC)I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly.
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	True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)		True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

			== Desmond's Room ==
			I noticed that most, if not all of what is in Desmond's room is somehow related to the Great catastrophe. Even the words of wisdom relate to what happens later on in the Grand Temple. The Lorenz Attractor was my main focus while I was adding a bit of trivia, but while I was doing that I realized that another piece of trivia may have jumped the gun a bit in calling something erroneous. After that I just looked at everything else and started to see some connections that I'd never noticed before, and I thought I should bring them up here.The Mandelbrot set is the only one I haven't actually looked at too much, but given its nature of "self similarity" just right away I think of the repeating cycle of events posed by the catastrophes.The "World To Come" after the arrival of the Messiah, in this case could either be referencing the world after Desmond saves the world, or if he had chosen not to sacrifice himself.The Mayan calendar date is self explanatory.The "IRREPARABLE truth" remark could be a hint at finding "The Truth" in the memories of Ezio, or just referencing how the truth of human history is longer than believed.13:16-18 referencing the mark of the beast, as well as the Templar microchip, which itself is based off the Isu implant.Al-Zalzala talks about an earthquake, which causes the world to "throw out all its contents" similar to the volcanic eruptions and other seismic activity that occured just after the catastrophe, which then was confused with the catastrophe itself. It also mentions humanity recounting its history, after being "inspired by the Lord to do so".

imported>GHosTxShadoux: Reverted, because the editor on mobile is trash and keeps screwing up what I'm trying to write.

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Reverted, because the editor on mobile is trash and keeps screwing up what I'm trying to write.

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	I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... ~~Thoughts~~? [[User:Sadelyrate\|SadelyI noticed that most, if not all of what is in Desmond's room is somehow related to the Great catastrophe. Even the words of wisdom relate to what happens later on in the Grand Temple. The Lorenz Attractor wa		I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Toughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)
	s my main focus while I was adding a bit of trivia, but while I was doing that I realized that another piece of trivia may have jumped the gun a bit in calling something erroneous. After that I just looked at everything else and started to see some connections that I'd never noticed before, and I thought I should bring them up here.The Mandelbrot set is the only one I haven't actually looked at too much, but given its nature of "self similarity" just right away I think of the repeating cycle of events posed by the catastrophes.The "World To Come" after the arrival of the Messiah, in this case could either be referencing the world after Desmond saves the world, or if he had chosen not to sacrifice himself.The Mayan calendar date is self explanatory.The "IRREPARABLE truth" remark could be a hint at finding "The Truth" in the memories of Ezio, or just referencing how the truth of human history is longer than believed.13:16-18 referencing the mark of the beast, as well as the Templar microchip, which itself is based off the Isu implant.Al-Zalzala talks about an earthquake, which causes the world to "throw out all its contents" similar to the volcanic eruptions and other seismic activity that occured just after the catastrophe, which then was confused with the catastrophe itself. It also mentions humanity recounting its history, after being "inspired by the Lord to do so".rate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

	True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)		True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

	~~== Desmond's Room ==~~

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	I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... ~~Toughts~~? [[User:Sadelyrate\|SadelyI noticed that most, if not all of what is in Desmond's room is somehow related to the Great catastrophe. Even the words of wisdom relate to what happens later on in the Grand Temple. The Lorenz Attractor wa		I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Thoughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|SadelyI noticed that most, if not all of what is in Desmond's room is somehow related to the Great catastrophe. Even the words of wisdom relate to what happens later on in the Grand Temple. The Lorenz Attractor wa
	s my main focus while I was adding a bit of trivia, but while I was doing that I realized that another piece of trivia may have jumped the gun a bit in calling something erroneous. After that I just looked at everything else and started to see some connections that I'd never noticed before, and I thought I should bring them up here.The Mandelbrot set is the only one I haven't actually looked at too much, but given its nature of "self similarity" just right away I think of the repeating cycle of events posed by the catastrophes.The "World To Come" after the arrival of the Messiah, in this case could either be referencing the world after Desmond saves the world, or if he had chosen not to sacrifice himself.The Mayan calendar date is self explanatory.The "IRREPARABLE truth" remark could be a hint at finding "The Truth" in the memories of Ezio, or just referencing how the truth of human history is longer than believed.13:16-18 referencing the mark of the beast, as well as the Templar microchip, which itself is based off the Isu implant.Al-Zalzala talks about an earthquake, which causes the world to "throw out all its contents" similar to the volcanic eruptions and other seismic activity that occured just after the catastrophe, which then was confused with the catastrophe itself. It also mentions humanity recounting its history, after being "inspired by the Lord to do so".rate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)		s my main focus while I was adding a bit of trivia, but while I was doing that I realized that another piece of trivia may have jumped the gun a bit in calling something erroneous. After that I just looked at everything else and started to see some connections that I'd never noticed before, and I thought I should bring them up here.The Mandelbrot set is the only one I haven't actually looked at too much, but given its nature of "self similarity" just right away I think of the repeating cycle of events posed by the catastrophes.The "World To Come" after the arrival of the Messiah, in this case could either be referencing the world after Desmond saves the world, or if he had chosen not to sacrifice himself.The Mayan calendar date is self explanatory.The "IRREPARABLE truth" remark could be a hint at finding "The Truth" in the memories of Ezio, or just referencing how the truth of human history is longer than believed.13:16-18 referencing the mark of the beast, as well as the Templar microchip, which itself is based off the Isu implant.Al-Zalzala talks about an earthquake, which causes the world to "throw out all its contents" similar to the volcanic eruptions and other seismic activity that occured just after the catastrophe, which then was confused with the catastrophe itself. It also mentions humanity recounting its history, after being "inspired by the Lord to do so".rate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

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	I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Toughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|~~Sadelyrate~~]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)		I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Toughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|SadelyI noticed that most, if not all of what is in Desmond's room is somehow related to the Great catastrophe. Even the words of wisdom relate to what happens later on in the Grand Temple. The Lorenz Attractor wa
			s my main focus while I was adding a bit of trivia, but while I was doing that I realized that another piece of trivia may have jumped the gun a bit in calling something erroneous. After that I just looked at everything else and started to see some connections that I'd never noticed before, and I thought I should bring them up here.The Mandelbrot set is the only one I haven't actually looked at too much, but given its nature of "self similarity" just right away I think of the repeating cycle of events posed by the catastrophes.The "World To Come" after the arrival of the Messiah, in this case could either be referencing the world after Desmond saves the world, or if he had chosen not to sacrifice himself.The Mayan calendar date is self explanatory.The "IRREPARABLE truth" remark could be a hint at finding "The Truth" in the memories of Ezio, or just referencing how the truth of human history is longer than believed.13:16-18 referencing the mark of the beast, as well as the Templar microchip, which itself is based off the Isu implant.Al-Zalzala talks about an earthquake, which causes the world to "throw out all its contents" similar to the volcanic eruptions and other seismic activity that occured just after the catastrophe, which then was confused with the catastrophe itself. It also mentions humanity recounting its history, after being "inspired by the Lord to do so".rate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

	True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)		True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

			== Desmond's Room ==

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	I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Toughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)		I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Toughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

			True...maybe it was purposeful?<span style="color:orange">Lost Fragment</span> 01:44, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

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	As far as this Venus Pentagram thing goes. This was an invention for that novel the Da Vinci Code. [[User:LancelotLoire\|LancelotLoire]] ([[User talk:LancelotLoire\|talk]]) 03:21, November 27, 2012 (UTC)		As far as this Venus Pentagram thing goes. This was an invention for that novel the Da Vinci Code. [[User:LancelotLoire\|LancelotLoire]] ([[User talk:LancelotLoire\|talk]]) 03:21, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

			== Mountain Valley ==

			I agree that it matches Machu Picchu beautifully, but to my eyes, it also bears a certain resemblance to the shot of Eden that we saw at the very end of The Truth... Toughts? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|talk]]) 12:44, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

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	In AC2, at least the PS3 version, the "Pyramid of Letters" and "Barcode & Date" cryptic messages are missing from the Abstergo lab. [[User:Dann494\|Dann494]] ([[User talk:Dann494\|talk]]) 18:12, September 18, 2012 (UTC)		In AC2, at least the PS3 version, the "Pyramid of Letters" and "Barcode & Date" cryptic messages are missing from the Abstergo lab. [[User:Dann494\|Dann494]] ([[User talk:Dann494\|talk]]) 18:12, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

			== Pentagram ==

			The Pentagram, also known as the Signum Salmonis historically was a Templar symbol and was a christian symbol representing christ and god up until the purge of the Templar Order circa 1307. At that point it along with several other symbols were turned to represent evil in a means to purge the order as satanic worshippers.

			As far as this Venus Pentagram thing goes. This was an invention for that novel the Da Vinci Code. [[User:LancelotLoire\|LancelotLoire]] ([[User talk:LancelotLoire\|talk]]) 03:21, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

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	"I've fallen into the abyss and never returned" - it's speculative to some extent, but I don't think Subject 16 doesn't only refer to his personal tragedy of being captured and exploited by Abstergo with this sentence. Remember Al Mualim's final words? "I abide my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this was also a chasing at the wind, for in much wisdom is much grief. And he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." Note the negative evaluation of knowledge. When I read "Death in Venice" by Thomas Mann I stumbled upon a part near the end of the novella where the author cites the dialogue between Socrate and Phaedrus as written by Plato where Socrate states "[...], [knowledge] ''is'' the abyss." (with a decisive stressing on that statement in the context of the dialogue). Combining these aspects I find it plausible and somewhat probable that "abyss" in the initial statement, as written in the mural, is a reference to this. It just seems to fit into the overall mindset of the dialogues within AC1 way too well to be simple coincidence, in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/95.88.44.233\|95.88.44.233]] 22:41, February 7, 2012 (UTC)		"I've fallen into the abyss and never returned" - it's speculative to some extent, but I don't think Subject 16 doesn't only refer to his personal tragedy of being captured and exploited by Abstergo with this sentence. Remember Al Mualim's final words? "I abide my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this was also a chasing at the wind, for in much wisdom is much grief. And he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." Note the negative evaluation of knowledge. When I read "Death in Venice" by Thomas Mann I stumbled upon a part near the end of the novella where the author cites the dialogue between Socrate and Phaedrus as written by Plato where Socrate states "[...], [knowledge] ''is'' the abyss." (with a decisive stressing on that statement in the context of the dialogue). Combining these aspects I find it plausible and somewhat probable that "abyss" in the initial statement, as written in the mural, is a reference to this. It just seems to fit into the overall mindset of the dialogues within AC1 way too well to be simple coincidence, in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/95.88.44.233\|95.88.44.233]] 22:41, February 7, 2012 (UTC)

			== Missing Cryptic Messages in AC2 ==

			In AC2, at least the PS3 version, the "Pyramid of Letters" and "Barcode & Date" cryptic messages are missing from the Abstergo lab. [[User:Dann494\|Dann494]] ([[User talk:Dann494\|talk]]) 18:12, September 18, 2012 (UTC)

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	Not really: the hills don't match the image as perfectly as the link provided in the text.[[User:Smoke3723\|Smoke3723]] 07:16, January 22, 2012 (UTC)		Not really: the hills don't match the image as perfectly as the link provided in the text.[[User:Smoke3723\|Smoke3723]] 07:16, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

			== Abyss ==

			"I've fallen into the abyss and never returned" - it's speculative to some extent, but I don't think Subject 16 doesn't only refer to his personal tragedy of being captured and exploited by Abstergo with this sentence. Remember Al Mualim's final words? "I abide my heart to know wisdom and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this was also a chasing at the wind, for in much wisdom is much grief. And he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." Note the negative evaluation of knowledge. When I read "Death in Venice" by Thomas Mann I stumbled upon a part near the end of the novella where the author cites the dialogue between Socrate and Phaedrus as written by Plato where Socrate states "[...], [knowledge] ''is'' the abyss." (with a decisive stressing on that statement in the context of the dialogue). Combining these aspects I find it plausible and somewhat probable that "abyss" in the initial statement, as written in the mural, is a reference to this. It just seems to fit into the overall mindset of the dialogues within AC1 way too well to be simple coincidence, in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/95.88.44.233\|95.88.44.233]] 22:41, February 7, 2012 (UTC)