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	==For The Eyes Of Jasca Ducato==		==For The Eyes Of Jasca Ducato==
	Now, let me make this perfectly clear: I am not trying to defy the "chain of command" here. I appreciate your work, Jasca, and I want to keep this as respectful as possible. ''That said''... I feel a certain urge, and perhaps even obligation, to [[Francisco Pizarro\|prove a point]]. (I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the page history, so please go there, and look at the third-to-last edit by '''Master Sima Yi''', and his given reason for it.)		Now, let me make this perfectly clear: I am not trying to defy the "chain of command" here. I appreciate your work, Jasca, and I want to keep this as respectful as possible. ''That said''... I feel a certain urge, and perhaps even obligation, to [[Francisco Pizarro\|prove a point]]. (I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the page history, so please go there, and look at the third-to-last edit by '''Master Sima Yi''', and his given reason for it.)

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	== For The Eyes Of Jasca Ducato ==		==For The Eyes Of Jasca Ducato==
			Now, let me make this perfectly clear: I am not trying to defy the "chain of command" here. I appreciate your work, Jasca, and I want to keep this as respectful as possible. ''That said''... I feel a certain urge, and perhaps even obligation, to [[Francisco Pizarro\|prove a point]]. (I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the page history, so please go there, and look at the third-to-last edit by '''Master Sima Yi''', and his given reason for it.)
	Now, let me make this perfectly clear: I am not trying to defy the "chain of command" here. I appreciate your work, Jasca, and I want to keep this as respectful as possible. ''That said''. . . I feel a certain urge, and perhaps even obligation, to [[Francisco ~~Pizzaro~~\|prove a point]]. (I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the page history, so please go there, and look at the third-to-last edit by '''Master Sima Yi''', and his given reason for it.)

	Now, as for the ''tiny, innocuous'' snippet of information about modern-day Istanbul, although it isn't particularly relevant to Constantinople's present role in the AC universe, I think it is an otherwise significant point worthy of brief note. That is all. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 06:21, April 22, 2011 (UTC)		Now, as for the ''tiny, innocuous'' snippet of information about modern-day Istanbul, although it isn't particularly relevant to Constantinople's present role in the AC universe, I think it is an otherwise significant point worthy of brief note. That is all. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 06:21, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

	:Your second point proves exactly why the information does not fit on this article. It ''isn't'' relevant to Constantinople's role in the AC universe at all. It is never called, or otherwise hinted at being named Istanbul in any way, shape or form, so we don't have it in the article. Also, I don't care much for people trying to prove a point, so don't. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 09:53, April 22, 2011 (UTC)		:Your second point proves exactly why the information does not fit on this article. It ''isn't'' relevant to Constantinople's role in the AC universe at all. It is never called, or otherwise hinted at being named Istanbul in any way, shape or form, so we don't have it in the article. Also, I don't care much for people trying to prove a point, so don't. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 09:53, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
	::No, but I think it's a pretty safe presumption; I was under the impression that it's the general policy around here to assume that something happened as it did in history until it is directly contradicted in an Assassin's Creed product. And it doesn't do any harm to the article. . . doesn't seem to get in the way of any of the info about its AC role. It seems just as pointless, if not more so, to delete it. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 20:54, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
			::No, but I think it's a pretty safe presumption; I was under the impression that it's the general policy around here to assume that something happened as it did in history until it is directly contradicted in an Assassin's Creed product. And it doesn't do any harm to the article... doesn't seem to get in the way of any of the info about its AC role. It seems just as pointless, if not more so, to delete it. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 20:54, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

	:::Well I'm sorry, but you assumed wrong. Our sourcing policy explicitly states that there is to be no assumptions of speculations inserted into articles. Most of the staff are pretty relaxed on this part; I however, am not. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 02:41, April 23, 2011 (UTC)		:::Well I'm sorry, but you assumed wrong. Our sourcing policy explicitly states that there is to be no assumptions of speculations inserted into articles. Most of the staff are pretty relaxed on this part; I however, am not. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 02:41, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

	::::Fair enough. But it's not speculation; it's '''fact'''. And what do you have to say about Sima Yi's statement? [[User:Guardian Assassin\|Guardian Assassin]] 22:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)		::::Fair enough. But it's not speculation; it's '''fact'''. And what do you have to say about Sima Yi's statement? [[User:Guardian Assassin\|Guardian Assassin]] 22:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
	:I've got nothing to say about it, if he wants to add that information, fine by him. I personally wouldn't have it in the article~~…~~ I don't care if it's fact, as far as we're concerned the AC games are God, and they do not once mention the name "Istanbul". Discussion over. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 03:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
			:I've got nothing to say about it, if he wants to add that information, fine by him. I personally wouldn't have it in the article... I don't care if it's fact, as far as we're concerned the AC games are God, and they do not once mention the name "Istanbul". Discussion over. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 03:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

	:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)		:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
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	::And apparently someone failed to listen properly. It's not "now" Istanbul. He says the Turks call Constantinople by that name. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 22:38, October 8, 2012 (UTC)		::And apparently someone failed to listen properly. It's not "now" Istanbul. He says the Turks call Constantinople by that name. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 22:38, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

	== ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map ==		==ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map==

	why is this being removed after i added it? everytime i play i notice it, and since nobody else metioned it i wanted to add it. was there a problem with my wording, or what?		why is this being removed after i added it? everytime i play i notice it, and since nobody else metioned it i wanted to add it. was there a problem with my wording, or what?

	== Istanbul ==		==Istanbul==
			The article states that the city was known as Istanbul to it's Turkish rulers, but the Ottomans continued to refer to the city as Constantinople. It's a minor detail but I am a bit of stickler when it comes to history. Istanbul was more of a nickname during the Ottoman period and the Byzantine period as well. -[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 05:41, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

	The article states that the city was known as Istanbul to it's Turkish rulers, but the Ottomans continued to refer to the city as Constantinople. It's a minor detail but I am a bit of stickler when it comes to history. Istanbul was more of a nickname during the Ottoman period and the Byzantine period as well. -[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 05:41, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
	:Whilst that may well be the case, the amount of hassle we had (as did the Official forums) over what the city should be called was exhausting. The compromise we currently have, mentioning both names in the lead sentence, is the only thing keeping the peace, so to speak. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 08:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)		:Whilst that may well be the case, the amount of hassle we had (as did the Official forums) over what the city should be called was exhausting. The compromise we currently have, mentioning both names in the lead sentence, is the only thing keeping the peace, so to speak. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 08:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

	:I don't really like how it's worded but yeah I get that there would be a lot of hassle over the name. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 23:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)		:I don't really like how it's worded but yeah I get that there would be a lot of hassle over the name. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 23:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

	::Well if you have an issue with the wording, make a suggestion here; if it fits, we'd happily change the current one. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 14:06, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		::Well if you have an issue with the wording, make a suggestion here; if it fits, we'd happily change the current one. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 14:06, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	:: Well, wrong again. xD Aaccording to the historical records of that age, It wasn't "Istanbul" but "Is tin Boli" which was the Byzantine word for describing "To the City (of Constantinople, which was the greatest city in world during Middle Ages)". The Turks then paraphrased the "Is tin Boli" into "Istanbul" in their ottoman turkish language, which is not unnatural for such things. [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)		:: Well, wrong again. xD Aaccording to the historical records of that age, It wasn't "Istanbul" but "Is tin Boli" which was the Byzantine word for describing "To the City (of Constantinople, which was the greatest city in world during Middle Ages)". The Turks then paraphrased the "Is tin Boli" into "Istanbul" in their ottoman turkish language, which is not unnatural for such things. [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

	== Constantonople's area scale ==		==Constantonople's area scale==

	Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?		Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?

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	== Italian areas? ==		==Italian areas?==

	Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)		Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

	:There is no really Italian quarter within in-game's Galata district at all. Sophia said that only for story purposes. And the name of each recruit you save from the guards and joins your guild's ranks, has his/her name always absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).		:There is no really Italian quarter within in-game's Galata district at all. Sophia said that only for story purposes. And the name of each recruit you save from the guards and joins your guild's ranks, has his/her name always absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).

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	:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)		:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

			::And apparently someone failed to listen properly. It's not "now" Istanbul. He says the Turks call Constantinople by that name. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 22:38, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

	== ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map ==		== ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map ==

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	::::Fair enough. But it's not speculation; it's '''fact'''. And what do you have to say about Sima Yi's statement? [[User:Guardian Assassin\|Guardian Assassin]] 22:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)		::::Fair enough. But it's not speculation; it's '''fact'''. And what do you have to say about Sima Yi's statement? [[User:Guardian Assassin\|Guardian Assassin]] 22:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
	:I've got nothing to say about it, if he wants to add that information, fine by him. I personally wouldn't have it in the article… I don't care if it's fact, as far as we're concerned the AC games are God, and they do not once mention the name "Istanbul". Discussion over. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 03:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)		:I've got nothing to say about it, if he wants to add that information, fine by him. I personally wouldn't have it in the article… I don't care if it's fact, as far as we're concerned the AC games are God, and they do not once mention the name "Istanbul". Discussion over. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 03:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

			:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

	== ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map ==		== ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map ==

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	:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
			:: Well, wrong again. xD Aaccording to the historical records of that age, It wasn't "Istanbul" but "Is tin Boli" which was the Byzantine word for describing "To the City (of Constantinople, which was the greatest city in world during Middle Ages)". The Turks then paraphrased the "Is tin Boli" into "Istanbul" in their ottoman turkish language, which is not unnatural for such things. [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

			== Constantonople's area scale ==

	Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?		Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?

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	Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)		Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

	:There is no really Italian quarter within Galata district at all~~, in-game~~. And the name of each recruit ~~that is saved~~ from the guards, and ~~added to the~~ guild's ranks, has ~~its~~ name absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).		:There is no really Italian quarter within in-game's Galata district at all. Sophia said that only for story purposes. And the name of each recruit you save from the guards and joins your guild's ranks, has his/her name always absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).

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	Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)		Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

			:There is no really Italian quarter within Galata district at all, in-game. And the name of each recruit that is saved from the guards, and added to the guild's ranks, has its name absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).

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			== Italian areas? ==

			Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

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	:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

			Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?

			Just like [[Rome#Trivia\|trivia no.2 of Rome article]].

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	I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
	:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

			:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

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	== For The Eyes Of Jasca Ducato ==		==For The Eyes Of Jasca Ducato==
			Now, let me make this perfectly clear: I am not trying to defy the "chain of command" here. I appreciate your work, Jasca, and I want to keep this as respectful as possible. ''That said''... I feel a certain urge, and perhaps even obligation, to [[Francisco Pizarro\|prove a point]]. (I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the page history, so please go there, and look at the third-to-last edit by '''Master Sima Yi''', and his given reason for it.)
	Now, let me make this perfectly clear: I am not trying to defy the "chain of command" here. I appreciate your work, Jasca, and I want to keep this as respectful as possible. ''That said''. . . I feel a certain urge, and perhaps even obligation, to [[Francisco ~~Pizzaro~~\|prove a point]]. (I couldn't figure out how to link directly to the page history, so please go there, and look at the third-to-last edit by '''Master Sima Yi''', and his given reason for it.)

	Now, as for the ''tiny, innocuous'' snippet of information about modern-day Istanbul, although it isn't particularly relevant to Constantinople's present role in the AC universe, I think it is an otherwise significant point worthy of brief note. That is all. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 06:21, April 22, 2011 (UTC)		Now, as for the ''tiny, innocuous'' snippet of information about modern-day Istanbul, although it isn't particularly relevant to Constantinople's present role in the AC universe, I think it is an otherwise significant point worthy of brief note. That is all. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 06:21, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

	:Your second point proves exactly why the information does not fit on this article. It ''isn't'' relevant to Constantinople's role in the AC universe at all. It is never called, or otherwise hinted at being named Istanbul in any way, shape or form, so we don't have it in the article. Also, I don't care much for people trying to prove a point, so don't. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 09:53, April 22, 2011 (UTC)		:Your second point proves exactly why the information does not fit on this article. It ''isn't'' relevant to Constantinople's role in the AC universe at all. It is never called, or otherwise hinted at being named Istanbul in any way, shape or form, so we don't have it in the article. Also, I don't care much for people trying to prove a point, so don't. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 09:53, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
	::No, but I think it's a pretty safe presumption; I was under the impression that it's the general policy around here to assume that something happened as it did in history until it is directly contradicted in an Assassin's Creed product. And it doesn't do any harm to the article. . . doesn't seem to get in the way of any of the info about its AC role. It seems just as pointless, if not more so, to delete it. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 20:54, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
			::No, but I think it's a pretty safe presumption; I was under the impression that it's the general policy around here to assume that something happened as it did in history until it is directly contradicted in an Assassin's Creed product. And it doesn't do any harm to the article... doesn't seem to get in the way of any of the info about its AC role. It seems just as pointless, if not more so, to delete it. [[Special:Contributions/98.192.42.30\|98.192.42.30]] 20:54, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

	:::Well I'm sorry, but you assumed wrong. Our sourcing policy explicitly states that there is to be no assumptions of speculations inserted into articles. Most of the staff are pretty relaxed on this part; I however, am not. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 02:41, April 23, 2011 (UTC)		:::Well I'm sorry, but you assumed wrong. Our sourcing policy explicitly states that there is to be no assumptions of speculations inserted into articles. Most of the staff are pretty relaxed on this part; I however, am not. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 02:41, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

	::::Fair enough. But it's not speculation; it's '''fact'''. And what do you have to say about Sima Yi's statement? [[User:Guardian Assassin\|Guardian Assassin]] 22:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)		::::Fair enough. But it's not speculation; it's '''fact'''. And what do you have to say about Sima Yi's statement? [[User:Guardian Assassin\|Guardian Assassin]] 22:39, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
	:I've got nothing to say about it, if he wants to add that information, fine by him. I personally wouldn't have it in the article~~…~~ I don't care if it's fact, as far as we're concerned the AC games are God, and they do not once mention the name "Istanbul". Discussion over. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 03:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
			:I've got nothing to say about it, if he wants to add that information, fine by him. I personally wouldn't have it in the article... I don't care if it's fact, as far as we're concerned the AC games are God, and they do not once mention the name "Istanbul". Discussion over. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 03:18, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

	:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)		:Ezio mentions that Constantinople is now Istanbul in the first or second letter home to his sister. [[Special:Contributions/71.178.211.168\|71.178.211.168]] 21:21, October 8, 2012 (UTC)
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	::And apparently someone failed to listen properly. It's not "now" Istanbul. He says the Turks call Constantinople by that name. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 22:38, October 8, 2012 (UTC)		::And apparently someone failed to listen properly. It's not "now" Istanbul. He says the Turks call Constantinople by that name. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 22:38, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

	== ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map ==		==ACB location glitch in aprentice contract mission map==

	why is this being removed after i added it? everytime i play i notice it, and since nobody else metioned it i wanted to add it. was there a problem with my wording, or what?		why is this being removed after i added it? everytime i play i notice it, and since nobody else metioned it i wanted to add it. was there a problem with my wording, or what?

	== Istanbul ==		==Istanbul==
			The article states that the city was known as Istanbul to it's Turkish rulers, but the Ottomans continued to refer to the city as Constantinople. It's a minor detail but I am a bit of stickler when it comes to history. Istanbul was more of a nickname during the Ottoman period and the Byzantine period as well. -[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 05:41, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

	The article states that the city was known as Istanbul to it's Turkish rulers, but the Ottomans continued to refer to the city as Constantinople. It's a minor detail but I am a bit of stickler when it comes to history. Istanbul was more of a nickname during the Ottoman period and the Byzantine period as well. -[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 05:41, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
	:Whilst that may well be the case, the amount of hassle we had (as did the Official forums) over what the city should be called was exhausting. The compromise we currently have, mentioning both names in the lead sentence, is the only thing keeping the peace, so to speak. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 08:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)		:Whilst that may well be the case, the amount of hassle we had (as did the Official forums) over what the city should be called was exhausting. The compromise we currently have, mentioning both names in the lead sentence, is the only thing keeping the peace, so to speak. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 08:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

	:I don't really like how it's worded but yeah I get that there would be a lot of hassle over the name. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 23:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)		:I don't really like how it's worded but yeah I get that there would be a lot of hassle over the name. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 23:21, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

	::Well if you have an issue with the wording, make a suggestion here; if it fits, we'd happily change the current one. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 14:06, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		::Well if you have an issue with the wording, make a suggestion here; if it fits, we'd happily change the current one. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 14:06, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

	:: Well, wrong again. xD Aaccording to the historical records of that age, It wasn't "Istanbul" but "Is tin Boli" which was the Byzantine word for describing "To the City (of Constantinople, which was the greatest city in world during Middle Ages)". The Turks then paraphrased the "Is tin Boli" into "Istanbul" in their ottoman turkish language, which is not unnatural for such things. [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)		:: Well, wrong again. xD Aaccording to the historical records of that age, It wasn't "Istanbul" but "Is tin Boli" which was the Byzantine word for describing "To the City (of Constantinople, which was the greatest city in world during Middle Ages)". The Turks then paraphrased the "Is tin Boli" into "Istanbul" in their ottoman turkish language, which is not unnatural for such things. [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

	== Constantonople's area scale ==		==Constantonople's area scale==

	Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?		Could someone added information about how much degrees this city tilted compared to real life?

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	== Italian areas? ==		==Italian areas?==

	Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)		Just a totally random question - when Sophia mentions (when you first meet her) that there aren't many Italians outside of the Galata district and the Venetian quarter, are there more italians in Galata, and is there a "venetian quarter" if so where is it? main reason for this question is that i want most of my assassin's guild to be made up of italians, so was wondering if you are more likely to encounter italians in any particular areas? [[Special:Contributions/94.7.42.93\|94.7.42.93]] 22:41, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

	:There is no really Italian quarter within in-game's Galata district at all. Sophia said that only for story purposes. And the name of each recruit you save from the guards and joins your guild's ranks, has his/her name always absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).		:There is no really Italian quarter within in-game's Galata district at all. Sophia said that only for story purposes. And the name of each recruit you save from the guards and joins your guild's ranks, has his/her name always absolutely randomly generated. Saving your game and try save a citizen and if the name does not suits you, reload your saved game and retry until you get a desired name for your ranks [[User:SilentResi\|SilentResi]] ([[User talk:SilentResi\|talk]]) 19:44, September 20, 2012 (UTC).

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	I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		I think the part where it states "also known as '''Istanbul''' to its Turkish rulers" can just be changed to "also known as Istanbul." I mean the Byzantines refered to it Istanbul as well. --[[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 16:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
	:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)		:No, the Byzantines called it Constantinople, which is what the city was named whilst it was a part of the Byzantine Empire... --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 18:03, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

			:I meant that Istanbul was a nickname that's been in use since Byzantine times. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople (or Kostantiniyye, the Turkish translation of Constantinple) was still the official name and it wouldn't be officially renamed until 1930. Sorry if my wording was unclear on the previous post. [[User:LeeUnit92\|LeeUnit92]] 22:30, October 7, 2011 (UTC)