Talk:Cain - Revision history

https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ACain Talk:Cain - Revision history 2026-06-08T16:01:08Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.42.3 https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584627&oldid=prev imported>Miracle guy at 08:25, 10 November 2017 2017-11-10T08:25:30Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:25, 10 November 2017</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l32">Line 32:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 32:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Thank you! That can be put to rest, then. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:29, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Thank you! That can be put to rest, then. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:29, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==Origins==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">According to the last game, before the Order of the Ancients there were just proto-Templars. So I suppose Cain fits in that category. '''[[User:Miracle guy|Miracle guy]] ([[User talk:Miracle guy|talk]]) 08:25, November 10, 2017 (UTC)'''</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Miracle guy https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584626&oldid=prev imported>Sadelyrate at 00:29, 17 January 2013 2013-01-17T00:29:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:29, 17 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l30">Line 30:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 30:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Clay and Desmond were 'distant cousins' due to both having Ezio as their however-many-times-great-grandfather. Alas, I cannot check the Game Guide for Revelations, atm, but if it's stated there that Adam's related to Desmond... only a retcon/Encyclopedia'll change that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:03, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Clay and Desmond were 'distant cousins' due to both having Ezio as their however-many-times-great-grandfather. Alas, I cannot check the Game Guide for Revelations, atm, but if it's stated there that Adam's related to Desmond... only a retcon/Encyclopedia'll change that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:03, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:''"But when Subject 16 declares the Assassins to be "children of two worlds" during AC2, he specifically references the rare bloodlines that run through Desmond Miles, Ezio, Altair, and others back to Adam and the genetic union with the First Civilization race."'' ''"Desmond is a distant son of Adam, half human and...half god-race."'' --Taken from the ''Revelations'' guide. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 00:25, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:''"But when Subject 16 declares the Assassins to be "children of two worlds" during AC2, he specifically references the rare bloodlines that run through Desmond Miles, Ezio, Altair, and others back to Adam and the genetic union with the First Civilization race."'' ''"Desmond is a distant son of Adam, half human and...half god-race."'' --Taken from the ''Revelations'' guide. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 00:25, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Thank you! That can be put to rest, then. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:29, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Sadelyrate https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584625&oldid=prev imported>Stormbeast at 00:25, 17 January 2013 2013-01-17T00:25:32Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:25, 17 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l29">Line 29:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 29:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Clay and Desmond were 'distant cousins' due to both having Ezio as their however-many-times-great-grandfather. Alas, I cannot check the Game Guide for Revelations, atm, but if it's stated there that Adam's related to Desmond... only a retcon/Encyclopedia'll change that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:03, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Clay and Desmond were 'distant cousins' due to both having Ezio as their however-many-times-great-grandfather. Alas, I cannot check the Game Guide for Revelations, atm, but if it's stated there that Adam's related to Desmond... only a retcon/Encyclopedia'll change that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:03, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:''"But when Subject 16 declares the Assassins to be "children of two worlds" during AC2, he specifically references the rare bloodlines that run through Desmond Miles, Ezio, Altair, and others back to Adam and the genetic union with the First Civilization race."'' ''"Desmond is a distant son of Adam, half human and...half god-race."'' --Taken from the ''Revelations'' guide. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 00:25, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Stormbeast https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584624&oldid=prev imported>Sadelyrate at 00:03, 17 January 2013 2013-01-17T00:03:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:03, 17 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l27">Line 27:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 27:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Sadelyrate, Adams page says that he was a distant ancestor to Desmond and Clay, and Clay was a distant cousin to Desmond.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Sadelyrate, Adams page says that he was a distant ancestor to Desmond and Clay, and Clay was a distant cousin to Desmond.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Clay and Desmond were 'distant cousins' due to both having Ezio as their however-many-times-great-grandfather. Alas, I cannot check the Game Guide for Revelations, atm, but if it's stated there that Adam's related to Desmond... only a retcon/Encyclopedia'll change that. :) [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 00:03, January 17, 2013 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Sadelyrate https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584623&oldid=prev imported>S1monab0m at 21:36, 16 January 2013 2013-01-16T21:36:13Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:36, 16 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l24">Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Should Seth be mentioned in the relevant articles? As it is, that's not the case; Adam, Eve, Abel, Cain... none of them mention the third son, or his line.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Should Seth be mentioned in the relevant articles? As it is, that's not the case; Adam, Eve, Abel, Cain... none of them mention the third son, or his line.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><br>[[User:S1monab0m|S1monab0m]]: How do we know Adam's an ancestor to Desmond? He was for Clay, but either I've missed something (likely), or then there is no suggestion that Adam's related to Desmond... [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 12:17, January 13, 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><br <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/</ins>>[[User:S1monab0m|S1monab0m]]: How do we know Adam's an ancestor to Desmond? He was for Clay, but either I've missed something (likely), or then there is no suggestion that Adam's related to Desmond... [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 12:17, January 13, 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sadelyrate, Adams page says that he was a distant ancestor to Desmond and Clay, and Clay was a distant cousin to Desmond.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>S1monab0m https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584622&oldid=prev imported>Sadelyrate: Re: Seth 2013-01-13T12:17:38Z

<p>Re: Seth</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:17, 13 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>You're forgetting Seth. [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper|talk]]) 10:16, January 13, 2013 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>You're forgetting Seth. [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper|talk]]) 10:16, January 13, 2013 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Should Seth be mentioned in the relevant articles? As it is, that's not the case; Adam, Eve, Abel, Cain... none of them mention the third son, or his line.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><br>[[User:S1monab0m|S1monab0m]]: How do we know Adam's an ancestor to Desmond? He was for Clay, but either I've missed something (likely), or then there is no suggestion that Adam's related to Desmond... [[User:Sadelyrate|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate|talk]]) 12:17, January 13, 2013 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Sadelyrate https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584621&oldid=prev imported>Slate Vesper at 10:16, 13 January 2013 2013-01-13T10:16:42Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:16, 13 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:S1monab0m|S1monab0m]] ([[User talk:S1monab0m|talk]]) 23:23, January 12, 2013 (UTC) Since Adam is a distant ancestor to Desmond then so would Cain be. Then he would be another templar ancestor to Desmond, apart from Haytham Kenway.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:S1monab0m|S1monab0m]] ([[User talk:S1monab0m|talk]]) 23:23, January 12, 2013 (UTC) Since Adam is a distant ancestor to Desmond then so would Cain be. Then he would be another templar ancestor to Desmond, apart from Haytham Kenway.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">You're forgetting Seth. [[User:Slate Vesper|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper|talk]]) 10:16, January 13, 2013 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Slate Vesper https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584620&oldid=prev imported>S1monab0m at 23:23, 12 January 2013 2013-01-12T23:23:54Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:23, 13 January 2013</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, I'd like to add that it also doesn't make sense for the Templars to use the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as front. If they used it in Joseph Smith's time, then why? The Church was HATED in that time period and Joseph was martyred as a result. Why would the Templars use a church that was so despised as a front? Don't they want to be respected so they can gain control of the people? The Catholic Church was much more respected in Ezio's time, so that's an easy reason to use it as a front. But even in the modern times, the LDS Church is [http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2012/05/29/essay-about-prejudice-academe-against-mormons still despised]. So, it makes little sense to me, also along with revealing Cain as the first Templar through the JST, that the Templars would use the LDS Church as a front for their activities. Regardless, I'm biased because I am a Mormon, but this is my opinion on the matter. [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 16:47, June 17, 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, I'd like to add that it also doesn't make sense for the Templars to use the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as front. If they used it in Joseph Smith's time, then why? The Church was HATED in that time period and Joseph was martyred as a result. Why would the Templars use a church that was so despised as a front? Don't they want to be respected so they can gain control of the people? The Catholic Church was much more respected in Ezio's time, so that's an easy reason to use it as a front. But even in the modern times, the LDS Church is [http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2012/05/29/essay-about-prejudice-academe-against-mormons still despised]. So, it makes little sense to me, also along with revealing Cain as the first Templar through the JST, that the Templars would use the LDS Church as a front for their activities. Regardless, I'm biased because I am a Mormon, but this is my opinion on the matter. [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 16:47, June 17, 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:S1monab0m|S1monab0m]] ([[User talk:S1monab0m|talk]]) 23:23, January 12, 2013 (UTC) Since Adam is a distant ancestor to Desmond then so would Cain be. Then he would be another templar ancestor to Desmond, apart from Haytham Kenway.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>S1monab0m https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584619&oldid=prev imported>Aegis Runestone: What? LDS Church as a front? 2012-06-17T16:47:17Z

<p>What? LDS Church as a front?</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:47, 17 June 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I agree. Because the glyph contradicts itself. According to the Glyph, Joseph Smith translated the texts according to Templar desires. The problem is... it reveals Cain as a Templar. Don't the Templars want to remain a secret? Why then are they supporting a translation that then reveals their intentions to get the PoEs by theft and murder? It doesn't make sense. Also, to correct you, Anon, Adam is the Archangel Michael, not Gabriel. Gabriel is Noah. ;) [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 23:48, June 3, 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I agree. Because the glyph contradicts itself. According to the Glyph, Joseph Smith translated the texts according to Templar desires. The problem is... it reveals Cain as a Templar. Don't the Templars want to remain a secret? Why then are they supporting a translation that then reveals their intentions to get the PoEs by theft and murder? It doesn't make sense. Also, to correct you, Anon, Adam is the Archangel Michael, not Gabriel. Gabriel is Noah. ;) [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 23:48, June 3, 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I've heard about Cain and Abel before, they were brothers were they not? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>Was it not, Cain who killed Abel out of malicious intent? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>In actual folklore, Adam and Eve's story revolves around the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Knowledge... or was it the Garden of Hesperades? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>The main gist of what happened was that Adam and Eve picked from the Tree of Knowledge when they weren't supposed too. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>There's much lore about this, so I could be stating only one out of hundreds of versions. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>PS: You might want to tone down on the Mormon beliefs, because the user above me happens to be affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and are predominately considered Christian which is one of the oldest religious creeds in the world... topped only by Paganism/Wicca. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>PPS: The Garden of Hesperades housed the Tree of Immortality which was one of the destinations visted by Heracles during his Twleve Labours, where he tricked Atlas into picking a Golden Apple for him as he was immortal and Heracles was only a demigod (half-god and half-mortal) and Heracles held up the sky for him for a short time. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>I have excessive knowledge on Greek Mythology so if anyone has any questions regarding the myths/lores, don't be afraid to leave me a message on my talk page which you can get to by clicking on the corresponding "IL Mentori" on my wiki signature ---------> [[User:SupremeAssassin|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#ff0000;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">IL Mentori</font></sup>]] 02:02, June 4, 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I've heard about Cain and Abel before, they were brothers were they not? Was it not, Cain who killed Abel out of malicious intent? In actual folklore, Adam and Eve's story revolves around the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Knowledge... or was it the Garden of Hesperades? The main gist of what happened was that Adam and Eve picked from the Tree of Knowledge when they weren't supposed too. There's much lore about this, so I could be stating only one out of hundreds of versions. PS: You might want to tone down on the Mormon beliefs, because the user above me happens to be affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and are predominately considered Christian which is one of the oldest religious creeds in the world... topped only by Paganism/Wicca. PPS: The Garden of Hesperades housed the Tree of Immortality which was one of the destinations visted by Heracles during his Twleve Labours, where he tricked Atlas into picking a Golden Apple for him as he was immortal and Heracles was only a demigod (half-god and half-mortal) and Heracles held up the sky for him for a short time. I have excessive knowledge on Greek Mythology so if anyone has any questions regarding the myths/lores, don't be afraid to leave me a message on my talk page which you can get to by clicking on the corresponding "IL Mentori" on my wiki signature ---------> [[User:SupremeAssassin|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#ff0000;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">IL Mentori</font></sup>]] 02:02, June 4<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Also, I'd like to add that it also doesn't make sense for the Templars to use the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as front. If they used it in Joseph Smith's time, then why? The Church was HATED in that time period and Joseph was martyred as a result. Why would the Templars use a church that was so despised as a front? Don't they want to be respected so they can gain control of the people? The Catholic Church was much more respected in Ezio's time, so that's an easy reason to use it as a front. But even in the modern times, the LDS Church is [http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2012/05/29/essay-about-prejudice-academe-against-mormons still despised]. So, it makes little sense to me, also along with revealing Cain as the first Templar through the JST, that the Templars would use the LDS Church as a front for their activities. Regardless, I'm biased because I am a Mormon, but this is my opinion on the matter. [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 16:47, June 17</ins>, 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Aegis Runestone https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Cain&diff=584618&oldid=prev imported>SupremeAssassin: Forum Updated 2012-06-04T02:02:49Z

<p>Forum Updated</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:02, 4 June 2012</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I agree. Because the glyph contradicts itself. According to the Glyph, Joseph Smith translated the texts according to Templar desires. The problem is... it reveals Cain as a Templar. Don't the Templars want to remain a secret? Why then are they supporting a translation that then reveals their intentions to get the PoEs by theft and murder? It doesn't make sense. Also, to correct you, Anon, Adam is the Archangel Michael, not Gabriel. Gabriel is Noah. ;) [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 23:48, June 3, 2012 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I agree. Because the glyph contradicts itself. According to the Glyph, Joseph Smith translated the texts according to Templar desires. The problem is... it reveals Cain as a Templar. Don't the Templars want to remain a secret? Why then are they supporting a translation that then reveals their intentions to get the PoEs by theft and murder? It doesn't make sense. Also, to correct you, Anon, Adam is the Archangel Michael, not Gabriel. Gabriel is Noah. ;) [[User:Aegis_Runestone|''<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#268de4;">Aegis Runestone</span>'']][[User_talk:Aegis_Runestone|<sup><font color="e4be26">Speak to me</font></sup>]] 23:48, June 3, 2012 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I've heard about Cain and Abel before, they were brothers were they not? Was it not, Cain who killed Abel out of malicious intent? In actual folklore, Adam and Eve's story revolves around the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Knowledge... or was it the Garden of Hesperades? The main gist of what happened was that Adam and Eve picked from the Tree of Knowledge when they weren't supposed too. There's much lore about this, so I could be stating only one out of hundreds of versions. PS: You might want to tone down on the Mormon beliefs, because the user above me happens to be affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and are predominately considered Christian which is one of the oldest religious creeds in the world... topped only by Paganism/Wicca. PPS: The Garden of Hesperades housed the Tree of Immortality which was one of the destinations visted by Heracles during his Twleve Labours, where he tricked Atlas into picking a Golden Apple for him as he was immortal and Heracles was only a demigod (half-god and half-mortal) and Heracles held up the sky for him for a short time. I have excessive knowledge on Greek Mythology so if anyone has any questions regarding the myths/lores, don't be afraid to leave me a message on my talk page which you can get to by clicking on the corresponding "IL Mentori" on my wiki signature ---------> [[User:SupremeAssassin|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#ff0000;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">IL Mentori</font></sup>]] 02:02, June 4, 2012 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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