Talk:Byzantine Rite of the Templar Order - Revision history

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	:To be fair, this isn't the only example. The Roman Assassins obviously did not refer to themselves as such, as the word "Assassin" originated with the Levantine Assassins in the 11th century. Instead the contemporary Roman branch called themselves the Liberalis Circulum. Same with the Templars, any Templar group predating the Knights Templar had a different name. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 18:59, February 9, 2017 (UTC)		:To be fair, this isn't the only example. The Roman Assassins obviously did not refer to themselves as such, as the word "Assassin" originated with the Levantine Assassins in the 11th century. Instead the contemporary Roman branch called themselves the Liberalis Circulum. Same with the Templars, any Templar group predating the Knights Templar had a different name. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 18:59, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

			== Golden City: Order of the Ancients ==

			Do we include the Order's history in this Rite as well? Just wondering. [[User:Batfan13\|Batfan13]] ([[User talk:Batfan13\|talk]]) 16:13, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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	I thought this should be noted somewhere. "Byzantine" is a historiographical name not used by the Byzantine Empire itself during its existence. Its people referred to themselves as "Romans" as it was technically an eastern continuation of the Roman Empire. It is therefore curious that this rite is named the Byzantine Rite, and I'm wondering if the Templars in-universe applied the name retroactively... All this of course, is just speculation, and we will have to use the name as given in ''The Essential Guide''. I'm wondering if the fact "Byzantine" is historiographical should be mentioned in trivia though. I'm leaning against it partially because I suppose in-universe, maybe the Templars were the ones using it first and that's how it became the common historiographical name much later. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:26, February 9, 2017 (UTC)		I thought this should be noted somewhere. "Byzantine" is a historiographical name not used by the Byzantine Empire itself during its existence. Its people referred to themselves as "Romans" as it was technically an eastern continuation of the Roman Empire. It is therefore curious that this rite is named the Byzantine Rite, and I'm wondering if the Templars in-universe applied the name retroactively... All this of course, is just speculation, and we will have to use the name as given in ''The Essential Guide''. I'm wondering if the fact "Byzantine" is historiographical should be mentioned in trivia though. I'm leaning against it partially because I suppose in-universe, maybe the Templars were the ones using it first and that's how it became the common historiographical name much later. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:26, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

	:To be fair, this isn't the only example. The Roman Assassins obviously did not refer to themselves as such, as the word "Assassin" originated with the Levantine Assassins in the 11th century. Instead the contemporary Roman branch called themselves the Liberalis Circulum. Same with the Templars, any Templar group predating the Knights Templar had a different name. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 18:59, February 9, 2017 (UTC)		:To be fair, this isn't the only example. The Roman Assassins obviously did not refer to themselves as such, as the word "Assassin" originated with the Levantine Assassins in the 11th century. Instead the contemporary Roman branch called themselves the Liberalis Circulum. Same with the Templars, any Templar group predating the Knights Templar had a different name. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 18:59, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

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	==Historiographical name==		==Historiographical name==
	I thought this should be noted somewhere. "Byzantine" is a historiographical name not used by the Byzantine Empire itself during its existence. Its people referred to themselves as "Romans" as it was technically an eastern continuation of the Roman Empire. It is therefore curious that this rite is named the Byzantine Rite, and I'm wondering if the Templars in-universe applied the name retroactively... All this of course, is just speculation, and we will have to use the name as given in ''The Essential Guide''. I'm wondering if the fact "Byzantine" is historiographical should be mentioned in trivia though. I'm leaning against it partially because I suppose in-universe, maybe the Templars were the ones using it first and that's how it became the common historiographical name much later. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:26, February 9, 2017 (UTC)		I thought this should be noted somewhere. "Byzantine" is a historiographical name not used by the Byzantine Empire itself during its existence. Its people referred to themselves as "Romans" as it was technically an eastern continuation of the Roman Empire. It is therefore curious that this rite is named the Byzantine Rite, and I'm wondering if the Templars in-universe applied the name retroactively... All this of course, is just speculation, and we will have to use the name as given in ''The Essential Guide''. I'm wondering if the fact "Byzantine" is historiographical should be mentioned in trivia though. I'm leaning against it partially because I suppose in-universe, maybe the Templars were the ones using it first and that's how it became the common historiographical name much later. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:26, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

			:To be fair, this isn't the only example. The Roman Assassins obviously did not refer to themselves as such, as the word "Assassin" originated with the Levantine Assassins in the 11th century. Instead the contemporary Roman branch called themselves the Liberalis Circulum. Same with the Templars, any Templar group predating the Knights Templar had a different name. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 18:59, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

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==Historiographical name==
I thought this should be noted somewhere. "Byzantine" is a historiographical name not used by the Byzantine Empire itself during its existence. Its people referred to themselves as "Romans" as it was technically an eastern continuation of the Roman Empire. It is therefore curious that this rite is named the Byzantine Rite, and I'm wondering if the Templars in-universe applied the name retroactively... All this of course, is just speculation, and we will have to use the name as given in ''The Essential Guide''. I'm wondering if the fact "Byzantine" is historiographical should be mentioned in trivia though. I'm leaning against it partially because I suppose in-universe, maybe the Templars were the ones using it first and that's how it became the common historiographical name much later. [[User:Sol Pacificus|'''Sol Pacificus''']][[User talk:Sol Pacificus|(Cyfiero)]] 17:26, February 9, 2017 (UTC)