Talk:Basilisk's champion - Revision history

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	==Necessity?==		==Necessity?==
	Is this page really needed? Is he not just another warrior? -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)		Is this page really needed? Is he not just another warrior? -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

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	There's only room for one image, and I'm not sure which is better. The former is at an angle that doesn't show the guy's head. The latter shows the moment that Altaïr's about to kill him, but it happened so close to the HUD that I had to crop out part of Altaïr's hand which I don't like. I took some 20 pictures, and these were the only two that came out okay. I can try to play through the mission to take more if you guys think ~~the~~ need.		There's only room for one image, and I'm not sure which is better. The former is at an angle that doesn't show the guy's head. The latter shows the moment that Altaïr's about to kill him, but it happened so close to the HUD that I had to crop out part of Altaïr's hand which I don't like. I took some 20 pictures, and these were the only two that came out okay. I can try to play through the mission to take more if you guys think there's a need.

	I ~~put~~ the former on, but feel free to change it to the latter if you guys think it's better! :) [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 18:29, December 31, 2016 (UTC)		I picked the former, but feel free to change it to the latter if you guys think it's better! :) [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 18:29, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

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	I changed the conjectural name of "Basilisk's champion". I thought it sounded more professional than "Axe Warrior". For another thing, there can be many warriors wielding axes, so I thought it wasn't specific enough. I find this to be descriptive and a bit more specific, hinting more at his role in the game. This move can be countered by the argument that we don't know if he actually was a designated as a champion of Basilisk, only that he was the last enemy Altaïr had to fight before facing Basilisk at the Temple of Sand's treasure room. As such, I'm not sure if this is the best name change, and I'm leaving this here to let people know that they're welcome to think of a better change if they can. I just think "axe warrior" is worse. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 18:08, December 31, 2016 (UTC)		I changed the conjectural name of "Basilisk's champion". I thought it sounded more professional than "Axe Warrior". For another thing, there can be many warriors wielding axes, so I thought it wasn't specific enough. I find this to be descriptive and a bit more specific, hinting more at his role in the game. This move can be countered by the argument that we don't know if he actually was a designated as a champion of Basilisk, only that he was the last enemy Altaïr had to fight before facing Basilisk at the Temple of Sand's treasure room. As such, I'm not sure if this is the best name change, and I'm leaving this here to let people know that they're welcome to think of a better change if they can. I just think "axe warrior" is worse. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 18:08, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

			== Image ==

			I just uploaded two images of this character:

			[[File:Basilisk champion.jpg\|150px]]
			[[File:Basilisk champion killed.jpg]]

			There's only room for one image, and I'm not sure which is better. The former is at an angle that doesn't show the guy's head. The latter shows the moment that Altaïr's about to kill him, but it happened so close to the HUD that I had to crop out part of Altaïr's hand which I don't like. I took some 20 pictures, and these were the only two that came out okay. I can try to play through the mission to take more if you guys think the need.

			I put the former on, but feel free to change it to the latter if you guys think it's better! :) [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 18:29, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Name change */ new section

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	This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)		This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)
	: Nevermind, just replayed the level. He is actually the very last enemy that you face in the Temple of the Sand. It's just the that the encounter is so anti-climactic that it's easy to interpret him as just another random enemy (you can literally just ignore him). For the longest time, I even completely forgot he existed despite having played the level at least 20x. I would be in favor of keeping this article, but I would prefer that we think of a better conjectural name if we can. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 08:19, March 1, 2016 (UTC)		: Nevermind, just replayed the level. He is actually the very last enemy that you face in the Temple of the Sand. It's just the that the encounter is so anti-climactic that it's easy to interpret him as just another random enemy (you can literally just ignore him). For the longest time, I even completely forgot he existed despite having played the level at least 20x. I would be in favor of keeping this article, but I would prefer that we think of a better conjectural name if we can. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 08:19, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

			== Name change ==

			I changed the conjectural name of "Basilisk's champion". I thought it sounded more professional than "Axe Warrior". For another thing, there can be many warriors wielding axes, so I thought it wasn't specific enough. I find this to be descriptive and a bit more specific, hinting more at his role in the game. This move can be countered by the argument that we don't know if he actually was a designated as a champion of Basilisk, only that he was the last enemy Altaïr had to fight before facing Basilisk at the Temple of Sand's treasure room. As such, I'm not sure if this is the best name change, and I'm leaving this here to let people know that they're welcome to think of a better change if they can. I just think "axe warrior" is worse. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 18:08, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Axe Warrior to Talk:Basilisk's champion: A bit longer, but I think it sounds more professional than "axe warrior". We don't know if he was actually designated as a "champion", but he's a mini-boss. There are other ...

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Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Axe Warrior to Talk:Basilisk's champion: A bit longer, but I think it sounds more professional than "axe warrior". We don't know if he was actually designated as a "champion", but he's a mini-boss. There are other ...

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	This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)		This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)
	: Nevermind, just replayed the level. He is actually the very last enemy that you face in the Temple of the Sand. It's just the that the encounter is so anti-climactic that it's easy to interpret him as just another random enemy (you can literally just ignore him). For the longest time, I even completely forgot he existed despite having played the level at least 20x. I would be in favor of keeping this article, but I would prefer that we think of a better conjectural name. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 08:19, March 1, 2016 (UTC)		: Nevermind, just replayed the level. He is actually the very last enemy that you face in the Temple of the Sand. It's just the that the encounter is so anti-climactic that it's easy to interpret him as just another random enemy (you can literally just ignore him). For the longest time, I even completely forgot he existed despite having played the level at least 20x. I would be in favor of keeping this article, but I would prefer that we think of a better conjectural name if we can. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 08:19, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

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	This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)		This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)
			: Nevermind, just replayed the level. He is actually the very last enemy that you face in the Temple of the Sand. It's just the that the encounter is so anti-climactic that it's easy to interpret him as just another random enemy (you can literally just ignore him). For the longest time, I even completely forgot he existed despite having played the level at least 20x. I would be in favor of keeping this article, but I would prefer that we think of a better conjectural name. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 08:19, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

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	If we have this article, then I don't see why we shouldn't have articles on various unnamed mini-bosses or assassination targets throughout the series. In the game itself, there are several guards who have a more prominent role than this man, who is not even a mini-boss, but a random enemy that you encounter who happens to have a unique appearance. I am not necessarily proposing that this be deleted, since I believe that "information should be added and kept first, then removed if necessary", and not "information should be added only if necessary". At the same time, I'd be a bit indifferent if this article were deleted since I think it'~~d be~~ inconsistent with other unnamed enemies who play a more prominent role in the games (but do not have a unique appearance). On a side-note, we have articles on characters who have no more prominent role, nor unique appearance, than any other random guard, but happened to have a name. (Personally, I'd be in favor of Wookieepedia's policy that "unidentified" characters are allowed to have articles, provided that they really aren't just a guard you kill and have a noticeable role in the mission.)		If we have this article, then I don't see why we shouldn't have articles on various unnamed mini-bosses or assassination targets throughout the series. In the game itself, there are several guards who have a more prominent role than this man, who is not even a mini-boss, but a random enemy that you encounter who happens to have a unique appearance. I am not necessarily proposing that this be deleted, since I believe that "information should be added and kept first, then removed if necessary", and not "information should be added only if necessary". At the same time, I'd be a bit indifferent if this article were deleted since I think it's inconsistent with other unnamed enemies who play a more prominent role in the games (but do not have a unique appearance). On a side-note, we have articles on characters who have no more prominent role, nor unique appearance, than any other random guard, but happened to have a name. (Personally, I'd be in favor of Wookieepedia's policy that "unidentified" characters are allowed to have articles, provided that they really aren't just a guard you kill and have a noticeable role in the mission.)

	This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)		This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

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	I suppose it's helpful-ish if people thought he was some sort of important figure. Haven't play this game, so not sure of the circumstances, but if he appears to be a boss fight then people might be confused. Could be gratification for their suspicions if they manage to link the fighting styles to the references boss [[User:Mutley Rulz\|Mutley Rulz]] ([[User talk:Mutley Rulz\|talk]]) 04:38, November 4, 2012 (UTC)		I suppose it's helpful-ish if people thought he was some sort of important figure. Haven't play this game, so not sure of the circumstances, but if he appears to be a boss fight then people might be confused. Could be gratification for their suspicions if they manage to link the fighting styles to the references boss [[User:Mutley Rulz\|Mutley Rulz]] ([[User talk:Mutley Rulz\|talk]]) 04:38, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

			== Necessity? (renewed) ==

			If we have this article, then I don't see why we shouldn't have articles on various unnamed mini-bosses or assassination targets throughout the series. In the game itself, there are several guards who have a more prominent role than this man, who is not even a mini-boss, but a random enemy that you encounter who happens to have a unique appearance. I am not necessarily proposing that this be deleted, since I believe that "information should be added and kept first, then removed if necessary", and not "information should be added only if necessary". At the same time, I'd be a bit indifferent if this article were deleted since I think it'd be inconsistent with other unnamed enemies who play a more prominent role in the games (but do not have a unique appearance). On a side-note, we have articles on characters who have no more prominent role, nor unique appearance, than any other random guard, but happened to have a name. (Personally, I'd be in favor of Wookieepedia's policy that "unidentified" characters are allowed to have articles, provided that they really aren't just a guard you kill and have a noticeable role in the mission.)

			This enemy appears in the Temple of the Sand in one of the pathways, but I don't see him presented as a mini-boss at all, if only because you don't confront him in an arena or after a cutscene. He's just another obstacle. The only thing that sets him apart is his unique appearance. There's another brute similar to him earlier in the game in the military compound just before reaching the Tower of Jerusalem. That one, I think looks more like a mini-boss, but most players wouldn't even encounter him if they didn't mess-up the free-running on the beams. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|Sol Pacificus]] ([[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|talk]]) 07:53, March 1, 2016 (UTC)

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	Is this page really needed? Is he not just another warrior? -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)		Is this page really needed? Is he not just another warrior? -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 15:56, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

			I suppose it's helpful-ish if people thought he was some sort of important figure. Haven't play this game, so not sure of the circumstances, but if he appears to be a boss fight then people might be confused. Could be gratification for their suspicions if they manage to link the fighting styles to the references boss [[User:Mutley Rulz\|Mutley Rulz]] ([[User talk:Mutley Rulz\|talk]]) 04:38, November 4, 2012 (UTC)