Talk:Basilica di Santa Maria in Ara Coeli - Revision history

imported>Sol Pacificus: Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Santa Maria in Aracoeli to Talk:Basilica di Santa Maria in Ara Coeli: Apart from reasons of consistency, the database entry itself has it at this exact name, so the previous title was in error

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Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Santa Maria in Aracoeli to Talk:Basilica di Santa Maria in Ara Coeli: Apart from reasons of consistency, the database entry itself has it at this exact name, so the previous title was in error

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	This article claims that the church contains a Lair of Romulus, but it is not one of the locations listed on the [[Lairs of Romulus]] page. So, what's the deal? [[User:RS89\|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89\|talk]]) 09:09, December 27, 2014 (UTC)		This article claims that the church contains a Lair of Romulus, but it is not one of the locations listed on the [[Lairs of Romulus]] page. So, what's the deal? [[User:RS89\|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89\|talk]]) 09:09, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

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	<p style="font-weight:normal;">[[User:Hadrian92\|Hadrian92]] ([[User talk:Hadrian92\|talk]]) 06:26, January 1, 2017 (UTC)</p>		<p style="font-weight:normal;">[[User:Hadrian92\|Hadrian92]] ([[User talk:Hadrian92\|talk]]) 06:26, January 1, 2017 (UTC)</p>
			*Hm, if you have the time, do you think you could just learn to read the Cuneiform yourself? Might yield more results than writing to the game team and would probably make it more of a fun adventure. I suppose I could try to learn to read some cuneiform if I have the time, only that I probably would not anytime soon. I can read Anglo-Saxon runes though... fun fact xD. Also I always thought Ishtar/Inanna is quite obviously Venus/Aphrodite not Minerva/Athena? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 07:15, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

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	<p style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">I've narrowed it down to either Akkadian or Hititian Cuneiform, but I have no idea what it means. </span><span style="font-weight:normal;">I have absolutely zero background in cuneiform (though some in history) and considering the depth of the games and the lengths and effort the Ubisoft team put into it, I highly doubt it's not completely relevant to the storyline and/or mythos.</span></p>		<p style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">I've narrowed it down to either Akkadian or Hititian Cuneiform, but I have no idea what it means. </span><span style="font-weight:normal;">I have absolutely zero background in cuneiform (though some in history) and considering the depth of the games and the lengths and effort the Ubisoft team put into it, I highly doubt it's not completely relevant to the storyline and/or mythos.</span></p>

	<p style="font-weight:normal;">How is Cuneiform related to anything? Well, the Capitoline Triad draws back to the early days of civilization, and '''Menrva''' (or, as '''Minerva''' introduced herself, "'''Merva'''") goddess of war, art, wisdom, and health has many of the same attributes of an earlier deity, '''Ishtar''', the Akkadian goddess of love, beauty, sexual desire, knowledge, wisdom, war, and combat, which draws even further back to '''Inanna''', the Sumerian goddess of the same attributes. Both '''Juno'''/'''Uni''' and '''Jupiter'''/'''Tinia''' have their Akkadian and Sumerian counterparts, though it's a little bit harder to trace exact parallels between them.</p>		<p style="font-weight:normal;">How is Cuneiform related to anything? Well, the Capitoline Triad draws back to the early days of civilization, and '''Menrva''' (or, as '''Minerva''' introduced herself, "'''Merva'''") goddess of war, art, wisdom, and health has many of the same attributes of an earlier deity, '''Ishtar''', the Akkadian goddess of love, beauty, sexual desire, knowledge, wisdom, war, and combat, which draws even further back to '''Inanna''', the Sumerian goddess of the same attributes. Both '''Juno'''/'''Uni''' and '''Jupiter'''/'''Tinia''' have their Akkadian and Sumerian counterparts ('''Ki''' or '''Ninhursag''', and '''Anu''' or '''An''') though it's a little bit harder to trace exact parallels between them.</p>

	<p style="font-weight:normal;">IRL, religion is usually written down as just ancient ignorant peoples giving to the "gods" what they don't understand, but considering the Isu and what they represent in the in-game mythos, I truly believe it might be something interesting to look at.</p>		<p style="font-weight:normal;">IRL, religion is usually written down as just ancient ignorant peoples giving to the "gods" what they don't understand, but considering the Isu and what they represent in the in-game mythos, I truly believe it might be something interesting to look at.</p>

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	::The "Colosseum Lair" is directly below the Santa Maria in Aracoeli. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:24, December 27, 2014 (UTC)		::The "Colosseum Lair" is directly below the Santa Maria in Aracoeli. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:24, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

			== Vault door cuneiform? ==

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">Are there any linguist AC-players out there?</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">I just finished Brotherhood, and right before the Vault, in the room filled with water, two Juno statues and double stairs leading down, then up, to the Vault, there's this huge door (which, in the Animus, leads to one of the Keys of Romulus) covered in cuneiform and hieroglyphs. Also, in the Vault itself, if you happen to fall off the platforms, there's more cuneiform writing along the walls. </span></p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">And no, I'm not talking about the apparently-random sequences of lines and circles presented as the Isu language.</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">I've narrowed it down to either Akkadian or Hititian Cuneiform, but I have no idea what it means. </span><span style="font-weight:normal;">I have absolutely zero background in cuneiform (though some in history) and considering the depth of the games and the lengths and effort the Ubisoft team put into it, I highly doubt it's not completely relevant to the storyline and/or mythos.</span></p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">How is Cuneiform related to anything? Well, the Capitoline Triad draws back to the early days of civilization, and '''Menrva''' (or, as '''Minerva''' introduced herself, "'''Merva'''") goddess of war, art, wisdom, and health has many of the same attributes of an earlier deity, '''Ishtar''', the Akkadian goddess of love, beauty, sexual desire, knowledge, wisdom, war, and combat, which draws even further back to '''Inanna''', the Sumerian goddess of the same attributes. Both '''Juno'''/'''Uni''' and '''Jupiter'''/'''Tinia''' have their Akkadian and Sumerian counterparts, though it's a little bit harder to trace exact parallels between them.</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">IRL, religion is usually written down as just ancient ignorant peoples giving to the "gods" what they don't understand, but considering the Isu and what they represent in the in-game mythos, I truly believe it might be something interesting to look at.</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">It might just be one of those random easter egg type of things that game designers like to throw into the game... like what a lot of people thought while playing the first installment. Taking that into consideration, so far, most of the symbols that appeared in the first game have appeared in later games or media in one way or another (like the Lorenz attractor, the Eye of Providence, etc.), so... It might be important, or maybe even a hint of what might come next.</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">If this doesn't get anywhere, I might end up writing the game team, though I doubt it'll do any good.</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">And no, I don't have anything better to do with my time. LOL</p>

			<p style="font-weight:normal;">[[User:Hadrian92\|Hadrian92]] ([[User talk:Hadrian92\|talk]]) 06:26, January 1, 2017 (UTC)</p>

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	:Thanks for catching that - I had a look around and I can't seem to find any reference made to a Romulus Lair being under Santa Maria in Aracoeli either. Meaning it's probably a mistake. I'll check with some of the other editors and if the information is confirmed false, we can remove it. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 09:23, December 27, 2014 (UTC)		:Thanks for catching that - I had a look around and I can't seem to find any reference made to a Romulus Lair being under Santa Maria in Aracoeli either. Meaning it's probably a mistake. I'll check with some of the other editors and if the information is confirmed false, we can remove it. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 09:23, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

			::The "Colosseum Lair" is directly below the Santa Maria in Aracoeli. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:24, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

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	This article claims that the church contains a Lair of Romulus, but it is not one of the locations listed on the [[Lairs of Romulus]] page. So, what's the deal? [[User:RS89\|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89\|talk]]) 09:09, December 27, 2014 (UTC)		This article claims that the church contains a Lair of Romulus, but it is not one of the locations listed on the [[Lairs of Romulus]] page. So, what's the deal? [[User:RS89\|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89\|talk]]) 09:09, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

			:Thanks for catching that - I had a look around and I can't seem to find any reference made to a Romulus Lair being under Santa Maria in Aracoeli either. Meaning it's probably a mistake. I'll check with some of the other editors and if the information is confirmed false, we can remove it. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 09:23, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

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==Lair of Romulus==
This article claims that the church contains a Lair of Romulus, but it is not one of the locations listed on the [[Lairs of Romulus]] page. So, what's the deal? [[User:RS89|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89|talk]]) 09:09, December 27, 2014 (UTC)