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		<id>https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Babylonian_Brotherhood&amp;diff=583695&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>imported&gt;Sol Pacificus: Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Iltani&#039;s Order to Talk:Babylonian Brotherhood: Per talk page, long period of time without any objections or further input</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-29T19:59:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sol Pacificus moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Iltani%27s_Order&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Iltani&amp;#039;s Order&quot;&gt;Talk:Iltani&amp;#039;s Order&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Babylonian_Brotherhood&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Babylonian Brotherhood&quot;&gt;Talk:Babylonian Brotherhood&lt;/a&gt;: Per talk page, long period of time without any objections or further input&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:59, 29 May 2021&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>imported&gt;Sol Pacificus</name></author>
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		<title>imported&gt;Soranin: /* Move to &quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&quot; */</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-04T22:39:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 00:39, 5 May 2021&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l4&quot;&gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would like to revive this discussion one last time because I am quite keen on moving this page back to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. I think that the canonical name definitely has to take precedence over a conjectural name, per naming policy. Even if we strongly suspect that the canonical name is a misnomer—nay, even if we know the canonical name is a misnomer, as it sometimes is the case—that canonical name is still supposed to be the title. [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would like to revive this discussion one last time because I am quite keen on moving this page back to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. I think that the canonical name definitely has to take precedence over a conjectural name, per naming policy. Even if we strongly suspect that the canonical name is a misnomer—nay, even if we know the canonical name is a misnomer, as it sometimes is the case—that canonical name is still supposed to be the title. [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I say aye. - [[User:Soranin|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin|talk]]) 22:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Sol Pacificus: /* Move to &quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&quot; */</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-04T22:22:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In our [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206#63 discussion], a plurality of contributors expressed support for moving this page to the canonical name, &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;, in spite of the possibility that there may have been an unspoken retcon. I should note that technically, the name used in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Essential Guide&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, was not &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. Sima Yi instead suggested that we should rename it &amp;quot;Order (Babylonia)&amp;quot; since it is only referred to as &amp;quot;the Order&amp;quot; in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Chronicles: India&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and that would still be a canonical name. Although that is more recent, I am not in favor of that because it is a much vaguer name, awkward to the extent that I would lean towards the strictness that the retcon against &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot; has never been explicitly stated. What do you guys think? [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, May 17, 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In our [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206#63 discussion], a plurality of contributors expressed support for moving this page to the canonical name, &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;, in spite of the possibility that there may have been an unspoken retcon. I should note that technically, the name used in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Essential Guide&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, was not &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. Sima Yi instead suggested that we should rename it &amp;quot;Order (Babylonia)&amp;quot; since it is only referred to as &amp;quot;the Order&amp;quot; in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Chronicles: India&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and that would still be a canonical name. Although that is more recent, I am not in favor of that because it is a much vaguer name, awkward to the extent that I would lean towards the strictness that the retcon against &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot; has never been explicitly stated. What do you guys think? [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, May 17, 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would like to revive this discussion one last time because I am quite keen on moving this page back to &quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&quot;. I think that the canonical name definitely has to take precedence over a conjectural name, per naming policy. Even if we strongly suspect that the canonical name is a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;misnomer due to a retcon—nay&lt;/del&gt;, even if we know the canonical name is a misnomer, as it sometimes is the case—that canonical name is still supposed to be the title. [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sol Pacificus&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would like to revive this discussion one last time because I am quite keen on moving this page back to &quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&quot;. I think that the canonical name definitely has to take precedence over a conjectural name, per naming policy. Even if we strongly suspect that the canonical name is a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;misnomer—nay&lt;/ins&gt;, even if we know the canonical name is a misnomer, as it sometimes is the case—that canonical name is still supposed to be the title. [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sol Pacificus&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>imported&gt;Sol Pacificus: /* Move to &quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&quot; */</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-04T22:22:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In our [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206#63 discussion], a plurality of contributors expressed support for moving this page to the canonical name, &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;, in spite of the possibility that there may have been an unspoken retcon. I should note that technically, the name used in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Essential Guide&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, was not &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. Sima Yi instead suggested that we should rename it &amp;quot;Order (Babylonia)&amp;quot; since it is only referred to as &amp;quot;the Order&amp;quot; in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Chronicles: India&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and that would still be a canonical name. Although that is more recent, I am not in favor of that because it is a much vaguer name, awkward to the extent that I would lean towards the strictness that the retcon against &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot; has never been explicitly stated. What do you guys think? [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, May 17, 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In our [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206#63 discussion], a plurality of contributors expressed support for moving this page to the canonical name, &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;, in spite of the possibility that there may have been an unspoken retcon. I should note that technically, the name used in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Essential Guide&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, was not &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. Sima Yi instead suggested that we should rename it &amp;quot;Order (Babylonia)&amp;quot; since it is only referred to as &amp;quot;the Order&amp;quot; in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Chronicles: India&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and that would still be a canonical name. Although that is more recent, I am not in favor of that because it is a much vaguer name, awkward to the extent that I would lean towards the strictness that the retcon against &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot; has never been explicitly stated. What do you guys think? [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, May 17, 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I would like to revive this discussion one last time because I am quite keen on moving this page back to &quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&quot;. I think that the canonical name definitely has to take precedence over a conjectural name, per naming policy. Even if we strongly suspect that the canonical name is a misnomer due to a retcon—nay, even if we know the canonical name is a misnomer, as it sometimes is the case—that canonical name is still supposed to be the title. [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Sol Pacificus&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{Talkheader}} ==Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;== In our [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206#63 discussion], a plurality of contributors expressed support ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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==Move to &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
In our [https://assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:240206#63 discussion], a plurality of contributors expressed support for moving this page to the canonical name, &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;, in spite of the possibility that there may have been an unspoken retcon. I should note that technically, the name used in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Essential Guide&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, was not &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood of Assassins&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot;. Sima Yi instead suggested that we should rename it &amp;quot;Order (Babylonia)&amp;quot; since it is only referred to as &amp;quot;the Order&amp;quot; in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Chronicles: India&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and that would still be a canonical name. Although that is more recent, I am not in favor of that because it is a much vaguer name, awkward to the extent that I would lean towards the strictness that the retcon against &amp;quot;Babylonian Brotherhood&amp;quot; has never been explicitly stated. What do you guys think? [[User:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Sol Pacificus&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(Cyfiero)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, May 17, 2020 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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