Talk:Assassin apprentice - Revision history

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	== Apprentice Names==		== Apprentice Names==
	i know master yima added this information, and then it was removed by someone else, but do you guys think we should list the name of the apprentinces? even though we dont know anything about them yet it would be easier to add information about them when we find out more about them cause their names will already be listed, or do you guys think we should add their names once we know more about them? [[User:DanMan7308\|DanMan7308]] 09:49, August 19, 2010 (UTC) DanMan7308		i know master yima added this information, and then it was removed by someone else, but do you guys think we should list the name of the apprentinces? even though we dont know anything about them yet it would be easier to add information about them when we find out more about them cause their names will already be listed, or do you guys think we should add their names once we know more about them? [[User:DanMan7308\|DanMan7308]] 09:49, August 19, 2010 (UTC) DanMan7308

imported>Sol Pacificus: Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Assassin apprentices to Talk:Assassin apprentice

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imported>Amnestyyy: /* Article title too general */

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	I think the article title should be more specific, i.e. "Assassin apprentices" even if they're only referred to as "Apprentices" in-game. The reason for the games only referring to them as "Apprentices" rather than "Assassin apprentices" would be because it's obvious that they're affiliated with the Assassins given that you're playing an Assassin, on the Assassin faction, and they're your apprentices. It's redundant. However, in terms of an encyclopedia, where we're not writing devoted to the franchise as a whole, not just the Assassins, "apprentices" would properly be apprentices of any faction, not just an Assassin. At the very least, there could be Templar apprentices too, even if their title isn't officially "Templar apprentices".		I think the article title should be more specific, i.e. "Assassin apprentices" even if they're only referred to as "Apprentices" in-game. The reason for the games only referring to them as "Apprentices" rather than "Assassin apprentices" would be because it's obvious that they're affiliated with the Assassins given that you're playing an Assassin, on the Assassin faction, and they're your apprentices. It's redundant. However, in terms of an encyclopedia, where we're not writing devoted to the franchise as a whole, not just the Assassins, "apprentices" would properly be apprentices of any faction, not just an Assassin. At the very least, there could be Templar apprentices too, even if their title isn't officially "Templar apprentices".

	I suppose the article does pose it as an official title: "Apprentices", and that it is not referring to the general noun "apprentices", but then I'm not sure if that's proper either. Are we sure that they had ever meant it as an official title? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 11:33, February 3, 2017 (UTC)		I suppose the article does pose it as an official title: "Apprentices", and that it is not referring to the general noun "apprentices", but then I'm not sure if that's proper either. Are we sure that they had ever meant it as an official title? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 11:33, February 3, 2017 (UTC)
			:Agreed. I made the move. --[[User:Amnestyyy\|Amnestyyy]] <small>[[User talk:Amnestyyy\|(Contact me!)]]</small> <helper /> 11:45, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Amnestyyy: Amnestyyy moved page Talk:Apprentices to Talk:Assassin apprentices over redirect: Removing ambiguity

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Amnestyyy moved page Talk:Apprentices to Talk:Assassin apprentices over redirect: Removing ambiguity

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imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Article title too general */ new section

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	::::To answer your questions, in ACB and ACR, apprentices can be recruited after a certain point in the singleplayer campaign and show up across Rome and Constantinople with a crosshair-like icon on the Animus map, provided you have a slot available. In AC3, the apprentices are set members, but you recruit them after completing "Liberation Missions" in each district of Boston and New York. You can then train up apprentices by sending them on contract missions, which is done via pigeon coops in ACB and ACR, and by using the LB (Xbox) or L1 (PS3) button with AC3 to pull up a menu and then select X/Square. [[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper\|talk]]) 20:09, July 11, 2013 (UTC)		::::To answer your questions, in ACB and ACR, apprentices can be recruited after a certain point in the singleplayer campaign and show up across Rome and Constantinople with a crosshair-like icon on the Animus map, provided you have a slot available. In AC3, the apprentices are set members, but you recruit them after completing "Liberation Missions" in each district of Boston and New York. You can then train up apprentices by sending them on contract missions, which is done via pigeon coops in ACB and ACR, and by using the LB (Xbox) or L1 (PS3) button with AC3 to pull up a menu and then select X/Square. [[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper\|talk]]) 20:09, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

			== Article title too general ==

			I think the article title should be more specific, i.e. "Assassin apprentices" even if they're only referred to as "Apprentices" in-game. The reason for the games only referring to them as "Apprentices" rather than "Assassin apprentices" would be because it's obvious that they're affiliated with the Assassins given that you're playing an Assassin, on the Assassin faction, and they're your apprentices. It's redundant. However, in terms of an encyclopedia, where we're not writing devoted to the franchise as a whole, not just the Assassins, "apprentices" would properly be apprentices of any faction, not just an Assassin. At the very least, there could be Templar apprentices too, even if their title isn't officially "Templar apprentices".

			I suppose the article does pose it as an official title: "Apprentices", and that it is not referring to the general noun "apprentices", but then I'm not sure if that's proper either. Are we sure that they had ever meant it as an official title? [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 11:33, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Slate Vesper at 20:09, 11 July 2013

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	:::That's a shame. When I got the game, this wiki was the first place I thought of when I needed help (based on most videogame wikias serving as game guides). I see earlier someone posted a link to the [[Ranks]] page which does have gameplay terms and tables etc. They way the page is set up sort of makes the wiki's stance of 'reference material only' a little confusing. It includes gameplay info from previous games but not AC3, so people may assume it's an incomplete page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 11:26, July 11, 2013 (UTC)		:::That's a shame. When I got the game, this wiki was the first place I thought of when I needed help (based on most videogame wikias serving as game guides). I see earlier someone posted a link to the [[Ranks]] page which does have gameplay terms and tables etc. They way the page is set up sort of makes the wiki's stance of 'reference material only' a little confusing. It includes gameplay info from previous games but not AC3, so people may assume it's an incomplete page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 11:26, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

	::::Whilst the page you've linked too does indeed show rank names, and statistics associated with them, you will notice that it doesn't actually provide any 'gameplay tips' as to how to obtain those ranks. --{{Signature/Jasca Ducato}} 14:23, July 11, 2013 (UTC)		::::Whilst the page you've linked too does indeed show rank names, and statistics associated with them, you will notice that it doesn't actually provide any 'gameplay tips' as to how to obtain those ranks. --{{Signature/Jasca Ducato}} 14:23, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

			::::To answer your questions, in ACB and ACR, apprentices can be recruited after a certain point in the singleplayer campaign and show up across Rome and Constantinople with a crosshair-like icon on the Animus map, provided you have a slot available. In AC3, the apprentices are set members, but you recruit them after completing "Liberation Missions" in each district of Boston and New York. You can then train up apprentices by sending them on contract missions, which is done via pigeon coops in ACB and ACR, and by using the LB (Xbox) or L1 (PS3) button with AC3 to pull up a menu and then select X/Square. [[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper\|talk]]) 20:09, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Jasca Ducato: /* Information here not very useful for gameplay */

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	:::That's a shame. When I got the game, this wiki was the first place I thought of when I needed help (based on most videogame wikias serving as game guides). I see earlier someone posted a link to the [[Ranks]] page which does have gameplay terms and tables etc. They way the page is set up sort of makes the wiki's stance of 'reference material only' a little confusing. It includes gameplay info from previous games but not AC3, so people may assume it's an incomplete page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 11:26, July 11, 2013 (UTC)		:::That's a shame. When I got the game, this wiki was the first place I thought of when I needed help (based on most videogame wikias serving as game guides). I see earlier someone posted a link to the [[Ranks]] page which does have gameplay terms and tables etc. They way the page is set up sort of makes the wiki's stance of 'reference material only' a little confusing. It includes gameplay info from previous games but not AC3, so people may assume it's an incomplete page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 11:26, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
			::::Whilst the page you've linked too does indeed show rank names, and statistics associated with them, you will notice that it doesn't actually provide any 'gameplay tips' as to how to obtain those ranks. --{{Signature/Jasca Ducato}} 14:23, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Jimeee: /* Information here not very useful for gameplay */

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	Things like the max level, where and when to find recruits, their skills etc. All this related info should be on it's own page instead of having to looking through various pages for bits of info. I have found a good guide on IGN (of all places!) that deals with this, so I'll need to use that - but it might be a good idea to consider adding such info to this page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 10:32, July 11, 2013 (UTC)		Things like the max level, where and when to find recruits, their skills etc. All this related info should be on it's own page instead of having to looking through various pages for bits of info. I have found a good guide on IGN (of all places!) that deals with this, so I'll need to use that - but it might be a good idea to consider adding such info to this page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 10:32, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
	:Unfortunately, you won't find any such information on the wiki. The site is a reference source, not a game guide; as such our articles are supposed to read like a lore page. If you wish to view such information, I can only suggest websites like IGN (which you have already visited). --{{Signature/Jasca Ducato}} 11:14, July 11, 2013 (UTC)		:Unfortunately, you won't find any such information on the wiki. The site is a reference source, not a game guide; as such our articles are supposed to read like a lore page. If you wish to view such information, I can only suggest websites like IGN (which you have already visited). --{{Signature/Jasca Ducato}} 11:14, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

			:::That's a shame. When I got the game, this wiki was the first place I thought of when I needed help (based on most videogame wikias serving as game guides). I see earlier someone posted a link to the [[Ranks]] page which does have gameplay terms and tables etc. They way the page is set up sort of makes the wiki's stance of 'reference material only' a little confusing. It includes gameplay info from previous games but not AC3, so people may assume it's an incomplete page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 11:26, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Jasca Ducato: /* Information here not very useful for gameplay */

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	This entire article reads like a lore page - and while that may be its intended scope - it's not too helpful for people looking for gameplay information. I was looking for info about the leveling up system for the recruits in AC3 and there is nothing at all about this.		This entire article reads like a lore page - and while that may be its intended scope - it's not too helpful for people looking for gameplay information. I was looking for info about the leveling up system for the recruits in AC3 and there is nothing at all about this.

	Things like the max level, where and when to find recruits, their skills etc. All this related info should be on it's own page instead of having to looking through various pages for bits of info. I have found a good guide on IGN (of all places!) that deals with this, so I'll need to use that - but it might be a good idea to consider adding such info to this page.		Things like the max level, where and when to find recruits, their skills etc. All this related info should be on it's own page instead of having to looking through various pages for bits of info. I have found a good guide on IGN (of all places!) that deals with this, so I'll need to use that - but it might be a good idea to consider adding such info to this page. [[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 10:32, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
			:Unfortunately, you won't find any such information on the wiki. The site is a reference source, not a game guide; as such our articles are supposed to read like a lore page. If you wish to view such information, I can only suggest websites like IGN (which you have already visited). --{{Signature/Jasca Ducato}} 11:14, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
	[[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 10:32, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

imported>Jimeee at 10:32, 11 July 2013

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	Grr... 2 Edit Conflicts.They are just unavailable for a while. And it is "L2" for PS3 {{User:ssj456sharath/sig}} 07:24, December 28, 2012 (UTC)		Grr... 2 Edit Conflicts.They are just unavailable for a while. And it is "L2" for PS3 {{User:ssj456sharath/sig}} 07:24, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

			==Information here not very useful for gameplay==
			This entire article reads like a lore page - and while that may be its intended scope - it's not too helpful for people looking for gameplay information. I was looking for info about the leveling up system for the recruits in AC3 and there is nothing at all about this.

			Things like the max level, where and when to find recruits, their skills etc. All this related info should be on it's own page instead of having to looking through various pages for bits of info. I have found a good guide on IGN (of all places!) that deals with this, so I'll need to use that - but it might be a good idea to consider adding such info to this page.

			[[User:Jimeee\|Jimeee]] ([[User talk:Jimeee\|talk]]) 10:32, July 11, 2013 (UTC)