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Les Deux Royaumes Series

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	== Les Deux Royaumes Series ==		== Les Deux Royaumes Series ==
	I think there should be some changes to this page regarding the semi canonical 'French' comics. First of all, why is [[Assassin's Creed: ~~Conspirations~~]] listed as canon, while the others are semi-canon? Is it confirmed the upcoming comics will be canon, in contrast to the previous ''Les Deux Royaumes'' comics? It's also listed separately, which makes it seem as if they're not part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series, while it's confirmed to end the series.		I think there should be some changes to this page regarding the semi canonical 'French' comics. First of all, why is [[Assassin's Creed: Conspiracies]] listed as canon, while the others are semi-canon? Is it confirmed the upcoming comics will be canon, in contrast to the previous ''Les Deux Royaumes'' comics? It's also listed separately, which makes it seem as if they're not part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series, while it's confirmed to end the series.

	I suggest we split them up in 3 parts instead; The Ankh of Isis Trilogy (1-3), the Scepter of Aset Trilogy (4-6) and the upcoming ''Conspirations'' comics, all under Semi-canonical. Let me know what you think! ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 14:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC))		I suggest we split them up in 3 parts instead; The Ankh of Isis Trilogy (1-3), the Scepter of Aset Trilogy (4-6) and the upcoming ''Conspirations'' comics, all under Semi-canonical. Let me know what you think! ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 14:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC))

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Novel tie-ins vs Novelizations: new section

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	:I see your point, when we treat the French comics this way, we should treat them all that way. I agree separating all comics into the collection volumes might get a bit to crowded. Maybe it's okay to leave it like it's now? Perhaps a name change is the best thing to do, as you already proposed. ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 10:50, July 14, 2016 (UTC))		:I see your point, when we treat the French comics this way, we should treat them all that way. I agree separating all comics into the collection volumes might get a bit to crowded. Maybe it's okay to leave it like it's now? Perhaps a name change is the best thing to do, as you already proposed. ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 10:50, July 14, 2016 (UTC))

			== Novel tie-ins vs Novelizations ==

			As mentioned by another editor some of the 'novelizations' like Desert Oath aren’t really novelization. I motion to change the name to 'novel tie-ins' or something similar. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 17:41, June 29, 2018 (UTC)

imported>TheHiddenBlade123 at 10:50, 14 July 2016

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	I understand that it's easy to divide into two storylines, however I'd still hesitate because it'd be just that: dividing a series into storylines. It'd still be the same series. I think it'd be like dividing the Titan Comics ones into storylines, which I'd also hesitate to do. And it could be done. The French comics could be divided into ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Hawk Trilogy'' and the Titan ones could be divided into ''Trial by Fire'' and ''Setting Sun'' and so on. It just feels unnecessary. But if y'all think it's best, I made [http://imgur.com/a/gYloM buttons] for those trilogies. I just think separating them is superfluous. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 17:41, July 13, 2016 (UTC)		I understand that it's easy to divide into two storylines, however I'd still hesitate because it'd be just that: dividing a series into storylines. It'd still be the same series. I think it'd be like dividing the Titan Comics ones into storylines, which I'd also hesitate to do. And it could be done. The French comics could be divided into ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Hawk Trilogy'' and the Titan ones could be divided into ''Trial by Fire'' and ''Setting Sun'' and so on. It just feels unnecessary. But if y'all think it's best, I made [http://imgur.com/a/gYloM buttons] for those trilogies. I just think separating them is superfluous. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 17:41, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

			:I see your point, when we treat the French comics this way, we should treat them all that way. I agree separating all comics into the collection volumes might get a bit to crowded. Maybe it's okay to leave it like it's now? Perhaps a name change is the best thing to do, as you already proposed. ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 10:50, July 14, 2016 (UTC))

imported>Zero-ELEC: /* Les Deux Royaumes Series */ my internet is dying so i might be a bit before I can edit again...

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Les Deux Royaumes Series: my internet is dying so i might be a bit before I can edit again...

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	::::I think I should restate my previous comments a little bit. Firstly I do agree with you about AC: Conspirations most likely being completely different installments. What bothers me is that the first 6 volumes are called after their publisher (''Les Deux Royaumes''), while it's not the case for ''Conspirations''. I know this is done to prevent confusement, since otherwise they would simply be just called ''Assassin's Creed''. I believe the 'main' ''Titan Comics'' serie is also called just ''Assassin's Creed'' and since those are more commonly known and regarded as completely canon, I think they deserve that title more. My suggestion would be to split up this page ([[Assassin's Creed (Les Deux Royaumes comics)]]) into ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Hawk Trilogy'' and to treat those two as the primary pages for the comics (while also maintaining and directing to the seperate volumes pages). ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 15:38, July 13, 2016 (UTC))		::::I think I should restate my previous comments a little bit. Firstly I do agree with you about AC: Conspirations most likely being completely different installments. What bothers me is that the first 6 volumes are called after their publisher (''Les Deux Royaumes''), while it's not the case for ''Conspirations''. I know this is done to prevent confusement, since otherwise they would simply be just called ''Assassin's Creed''. I believe the 'main' ''Titan Comics'' serie is also called just ''Assassin's Creed'' and since those are more commonly known and regarded as completely canon, I think they deserve that title more. My suggestion would be to split up this page ([[Assassin's Creed (Les Deux Royaumes comics)]]) into ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Hawk Trilogy'' and to treat those two as the primary pages for the comics (while also maintaining and directing to the seperate volumes pages). ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 15:38, July 13, 2016 (UTC))

			I understand that it's easy to divide into two storylines, however I'd still hesitate because it'd be just that: dividing a series into storylines. It'd still be the same series. I think it'd be like dividing the Titan Comics ones into storylines, which I'd also hesitate to do. And it could be done. The French comics could be divided into ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Hawk Trilogy'' and the Titan ones could be divided into ''Trial by Fire'' and ''Setting Sun'' and so on. It just feels unnecessary. But if y'all think it's best, I made [http://imgur.com/a/gYloM buttons] for those trilogies. I just think separating them is superfluous. — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 17:41, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

imported>TheHiddenBlade123: Clarified my statement

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Clarified my statement

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	::::I'm fine with treating the trilogies and Conspirations as unique entities in the navigation. 4-6 are definitely a different ancient arc from 1-3, and Conspirations sits off on its own. I would rather break things up by logical story arc than by publisher. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 13:26, July 13, 2016 (UTC)		::::I'm fine with treating the trilogies and Conspirations as unique entities in the navigation. 4-6 are definitely a different ancient arc from 1-3, and Conspirations sits off on its own. I would rather break things up by logical story arc than by publisher. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 13:26, July 13, 2016 (UTC)


			::::I think I should restate my previous comments a little bit. Firstly I do agree with you about AC: Conspirations most likely being completely different installments. What bothers me is that the first 6 volumes are called after their publisher (''Les Deux Royaumes''), while it's not the case for ''Conspirations''. I know this is done to prevent confusement, since otherwise they would simply be just called ''Assassin's Creed''. I believe the 'main' ''Titan Comics'' serie is also called just ''Assassin's Creed'' and since those are more commonly known and regarded as completely canon, I think they deserve that title more. My suggestion would be to split up this page ([[Assassin's Creed (Les Deux Royaumes comics)]]) into ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Hawk Trilogy'' and to treat those two as the primary pages for the comics (while also maintaining and directing to the seperate volumes pages). ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 15:38, July 13, 2016 (UTC))

imported>DarkFeather: /* Les Deux Royaumes Series */

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Les Deux Royaumes Series

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	:::As for how the other comic series handle things; Les Deux Royaumes' ''Assassin's Creed'' consists of six sizeable numbered "Volumes" while the Titan Comics' ''Assassin's Creed'' so far consists of small-ish "Issues" with every five issues collected into a "Volume", ''Templars'' (also by Titan Comics) consists of much the same. The Ubiworks published ''The Fall'' consisted on three issues that were later collected as one, while ''The Fall'' and ''Brahman'' were single issue graphic novels. As it stands, I don't feel justified in separating the Les Deux Royaumes volumes into separate buttons? Maybe someone else could chime in with their opinion? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 03:15, July 13, 2016 (UTC)		:::As for how the other comic series handle things; Les Deux Royaumes' ''Assassin's Creed'' consists of six sizeable numbered "Volumes" while the Titan Comics' ''Assassin's Creed'' so far consists of small-ish "Issues" with every five issues collected into a "Volume", ''Templars'' (also by Titan Comics) consists of much the same. The Ubiworks published ''The Fall'' consisted on three issues that were later collected as one, while ''The Fall'' and ''Brahman'' were single issue graphic novels. As it stands, I don't feel justified in separating the Les Deux Royaumes volumes into separate buttons? Maybe someone else could chime in with their opinion? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 03:15, July 13, 2016 (UTC)


			::::I'm fine with treating the trilogies and Conspirations as unique entities in the navigation. 4-6 are definitely a different ancient arc from 1-3, and Conspirations sits off on its own. I would rather break things up by logical story arc than by publisher. [[User:DarkFeather\|<font color="#000">DarkFeather</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:DarkFeather\|<font color="#FFF">Raven's Nest</font>]]</sup><sub>[[User:DarkFeather/Sandbox\|<font color="#F00">Raven's Hunt</font>]]</sub> 13:26, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Zero-ELEC: /* Les Deux Royaumes Series */ Comment; also added header.

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Les Deux Royaumes Series: Comment; also added header.

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	I have a couple of questions: Should ''[[Freedom Cry]]'' be added? If so, under what should it be added? While ''Freedom Cry'' is a DLC campaign for ''[[Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag]]'', it is also a standalone game that can be downloaded independently. It's basically a download-only ''Assassin's Creed'' game. It can be played individually without even owning ''IV'', at least on PlayStation and PC. If it ''were'' included, where would it be included? Under Main or Surrounding instalments? Under its own category? "Standalone DLC", maybe? Opinions? --[[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 23:02, May 14, 2015 (UTC)		I have a couple of questions: Should ''[[Freedom Cry]]'' be added? If so, under what should it be added? While ''Freedom Cry'' is a DLC campaign for ''[[Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag]]'', it is also a standalone game that can be downloaded independently. It's basically a download-only ''Assassin's Creed'' game. It can be played individually without even owning ''IV'', at least on PlayStation and PC. If it ''were'' included, where would it be included? Under Main or Surrounding instalments? Under its own category? "Standalone DLC", maybe? Opinions? --[[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 23:02, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

	== Les Deux Royaumes Series==		== Les Deux Royaumes Series ==
	I think there should be some changes to this page regarding the semi canonical 'French' comics. First of all, why is [[Assassin's Creed: Conspirations]] listed as canon, while the others are semi-canon? Is it confirmed the upcoming comics will be canon, in contrast to the previous ''Les Deux Royaumes'' comics? It's also listed separately, which makes it seem as if they're not part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series, while it's confirmed to end the series.		I think there should be some changes to this page regarding the semi canonical 'French' comics. First of all, why is [[Assassin's Creed: Conspirations]] listed as canon, while the others are semi-canon? Is it confirmed the upcoming comics will be canon, in contrast to the previous ''Les Deux Royaumes'' comics? It's also listed separately, which makes it seem as if they're not part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series, while it's confirmed to end the series.

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	::They are treated as #1-#6, but even in the comics is spoken of two 'cycles'. I don't know how the other comics are sorted but since ''Assassin's Creed: Conspirations'' is sorted separately (while also part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series), why not do the same for ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Scepter of Aset Trilogy''? I believe the English versions of the comics are only available for purchase in the form of these two bundles.([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 18:18, July 12, 2016 (UTC))		::They are treated as #1-#6, but even in the comics is spoken of two 'cycles'. I don't know how the other comics are sorted but since ''Assassin's Creed: Conspirations'' is sorted separately (while also part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series), why not do the same for ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Scepter of Aset Trilogy''? I believe the English versions of the comics are only available for purchase in the form of these two bundles.([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 18:18, July 12, 2016 (UTC))

			:::Just because they're published by the same publisher, doesn't mean that they're the same series. In fact it's definitely a separate series. The original was "''Assassin's Creed''", hence the series got separated into numbered "Volumes" like ''1: Desmond'', ''2: Aquilius'', etc. "''Assassin's Creed: Conspirations''" starts the numbering over, consists of two "Tomes" numbered 1 and 2. Unless it turns out/it's confirmed to be a sequel, I'd take it as simply a separate comic series done by a different creative team, using the same IP, published by the same company.

			:::As for how the other comic series handle things; Les Deux Royaumes' ''Assassin's Creed'' consists of six sizeable numbered "Volumes" while the Titan Comics' ''Assassin's Creed'' so far consists of small-ish "Issues" with every five issues collected into a "Volume", ''Templars'' (also by Titan Comics) consists of much the same. The Ubiworks published ''The Fall'' consisted on three issues that were later collected as one, while ''The Fall'' and ''Brahman'' were single issue graphic novels. As it stands, I don't feel justified in separating the Les Deux Royaumes volumes into separate buttons? Maybe someone else could chime in with their opinion? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 03:15, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

imported>TheHiddenBlade123: comment

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	:As for the separation of the comics, that's actually not a bad idea. Though, I wonder if it's fine? Aren't those treated as #1, #2, etc? Would that be like adding the issues of the other comics individually? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 16:01, July 12, 2016 (UTC)		:As for the separation of the comics, that's actually not a bad idea. Though, I wonder if it's fine? Aren't those treated as #1, #2, etc? Would that be like adding the issues of the other comics individually? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 16:01, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

			::I thought it was a follow-up on the previous comics (and so says the wikia page), however I (tried to) reread the French Ubiblog post from back in October and it does mentions things like 'second project' and 'new tour', so you may be right on it being canon. Though I do believe they will continue or borrow elements from their existing modern day storyline in AC: Conspirations.

			::They are treated as #1-#6, but even in the comics is spoken of two 'cycles'. I don't know how the other comics are sorted but since ''Assassin's Creed: Conspirations'' is sorted separately (while also part of ''Les Deux Royaumes'' series), why not do the same for ''The Ankh of Isis Trilogy'' and ''The Scepter of Aset Trilogy''? I believe the English versions of the comics are only available for purchase in the form of these two bundles.([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 18:18, July 12, 2016 (UTC))

imported>Zero-ELEC: /* Les Deux Royaumes Series */ Comment

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	I suggest we split them up in 3 parts instead; The Ankh of Isis Trilogy (1-3), the Scepter of Aset Trilogy (4-6) and the upcoming ''Conspirations'' comics, all under Semi-canonical. Let me know what you think! ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 14:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC))		I suggest we split them up in 3 parts instead; The Ankh of Isis Trilogy (1-3), the Scepter of Aset Trilogy (4-6) and the upcoming ''Conspirations'' comics, all under Semi-canonical. Let me know what you think! ([[User:DatFlash\|Flash]] ([[User talk:DatFlash\|talk]]) 14:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC))
			:Unless its confirmed ''Assassin's Creed: Conspirations'' has non-canon parts, chances are it will be canon. The only reason the Les Deux Royaumes series was non canon was because early one they hadn't established canonicity standards. Almost everything since (excluding the manga) has been 100% canon. There's no reason to believe that ''Conspirations'' will only be partially canon. Also, where has it been confirmed to be the end to the Les Deux Royaumes series? Since it has a different creative team, I assumed it was its own thing.

			:As for the separation of the comics, that's actually not a bad idea. Though, I wonder if it's fine? Aren't those treated as #1, #2, etc? Would that be like adding the issues of the other comics individually? — [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 16:01, July 12, 2016 (UTC)