Talk:Assassin's Creed: Origins - Revision history

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	I know that the creator of this article did so tentatively and asked an administrator whether it was fine, so I feel that I might be a little harsh for being so prompt in my response, but I disagree that this article should stand. I'm not entirely sure of our policy here regarding rumors, but I think there's a reason why ''Empire'' didn't exist as an article before, right? I think sources for articles should only be those licensed by Ubisoft, and as an obvious extension, official ''Assassin's Creed'' sources. Having articles or information based only on rumors is preemptive and may only serve to misinform fans. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 04:41, May 8, 2017 (UTC)		I know that the creator of this article did so tentatively and asked an administrator whether it was fine, so I feel that I might be a little harsh for being so prompt in my response, but I disagree that this article should stand. I'm not entirely sure of our policy here regarding rumors, but I think there's a reason why ''Empire'' didn't exist as an article before, right? I think sources for articles should only be those licensed by Ubisoft, and as an obvious extension, official ''Assassin's Creed'' sources. Having articles or information based only on rumors is preemptive and may only serve to misinform fans. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 04:41, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Jasca Ducato: /* Synopsis? */

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	[[User:America's mentor\|America's mentor]] ([[User talk:America's mentor\|talk]]) 00:40, November 19, 2017 (UTC)		[[User:America's mentor\|America's mentor]] ([[User talk:America's mentor\|talk]]) 00:40, November 19, 2017 (UTC)
	:The moment information is released, it can be added to the article. It does require a Spoiler tag to be included at the top of the page/section, such as [[Template:Spoilerhd]] (which this page is currently lacking...) for a period of at least three months, however. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 13:19, November 20, 2017 (UTC)		:The moment information is released, it can be added to the article. It '''does''' require a Spoiler tag to be included at the top of the page/section, such as [[Template:Spoilerhd]] (which this page is currently lacking...) for a period of at least three months, however. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 13:19, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

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	[[User:America's mentor\|America's mentor]] ([[User talk:America's mentor\|talk]]) 00:40, November 19, 2017 (UTC)		[[User:America's mentor\|America's mentor]] ([[User talk:America's mentor\|talk]]) 00:40, November 19, 2017 (UTC)
			:The moment information is released, it can be added to the article. It does require a Spoiler tag to be included at the top of the page/section, such as [[Template:Spoilerhd]] (which this page is currently lacking...) for a period of at least three months, however. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 13:19, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Silly to delete at this stage when there's a reliable source (not the T-shirt). It's more legitimate than an official source saying there's possibly maybe a TV series happening. [[User:Vetinari\|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari\|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:05, June 10, 2017 (UTC)		::Silly to delete at this stage when there's a reliable source (not the T-shirt). It's more legitimate than an official source saying there's possibly maybe a TV series happening. [[User:Vetinari\|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari\|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:05, June 10, 2017 (UTC)
	:::It's not really a matter of veracity so much as a matter of integrity. We shouldn't set a precedent for editors to add material just because of the likelihood of it being true, even if that likelihood is 100%, rather than respect to actual sources. However, I would like to hear an administrator's view on this. It's kind of moot since we should be hearing from Ubisoft in a week anyways. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, June 10, 2017 (UTC)		:::It's not really a matter of veracity so much as a matter of integrity. We shouldn't set a precedent for editors to add material just because of the likelihood of it being true, even if that likelihood is 100%, rather than respect to actual sources. However, I would like to hear an administrator's view on this. It's kind of moot since we should be hearing from Ubisoft in a week anyways. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

			== Synopsis? ==

			Hello bureau,

			Today someone added a complete plot summarary to the ACO page detailing every event. I was under the assumption that it was our wiki policy to wait a decent amount of time after release to add the entire plot to a game page, this is especially strange since Unity and Syndicate still lack plot descriptions. I wanted to be certain of spoiler policy before undoing the revision.

			[[User:America's mentor\|America's mentor]] ([[User talk:America's mentor\|talk]]) 00:40, November 19, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Deletion */

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	::Silly to delete at this stage when there's a reliable source (not the T-shirt). It's more legitimate than an official source saying there's possibly maybe a TV series happening. [[User:Vetinari\|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari\|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:05, June 10, 2017 (UTC)		::Silly to delete at this stage when there's a reliable source (not the T-shirt). It's more legitimate than an official source saying there's possibly maybe a TV series happening. [[User:Vetinari\|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari\|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:05, June 10, 2017 (UTC)
			:::It's not really a matter of veracity so much as a matter of integrity. We shouldn't set a precedent for editors to add material just because of the likelihood of it being true, even if that likelihood is 100%, rather than respect to actual sources. However, I would like to hear an administrator's view on this. It's kind of moot since we should be hearing from Ubisoft in a week anyways. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 23:26, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

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	::The information all comes from the magazine that has been leaked: http://imgur.com/a/0jCG1, it's not confirmed yet but there is a 100% likeliness that the article is true. 13<span style="font-weight:normal;">:18, May 10, 2017 (</span>CEST<span style="font-weight:normal;">) [[User:Merijnj\|Merijnj]] ([[User talk:Merijnj\|talk]]) 11:20, June 10, 2017 (UTC)Merijnj</span>		::The information all comes from the magazine that has been leaked: http://imgur.com/a/0jCG1, it's not confirmed yet but there is a 100% likeliness that the article is true. 13<span style="font-weight:normal;">:18, May 10, 2017 (</span>CEST<span style="font-weight:normal;">) [[User:Merijnj\|Merijnj]] ([[User talk:Merijnj\|talk]]) 11:20, June 10, 2017 (UTC)Merijnj</span>

			::Silly to delete at this stage when there's a reliable source (not the T-shirt). It's more legitimate than an official source saying there's possibly maybe a TV series happening. [[User:Vetinari\|<b><span style="color: black">Vetinari</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Vetinari\|(Appointment)]]</sup> 22:05, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Maybe, I saw the recent picture, it looks very good but I can tell it's still Alpha footage. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 23:36, May 10, 2017 (UTC)		::Maybe, I saw the recent picture, it looks very good but I can tell it's still Alpha footage. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 23:36, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

			::The information all comes from the magazine that has been leaked: http://imgur.com/a/0jCG1, it's not confirmed yet but there is a 100% likeliness that the article is true. 13<span style="font-weight:normal;">:18, May 10, 2017 (</span>CEST<span style="font-weight:normal;">) [[User:Merijnj\|Merijnj]] ([[User talk:Merijnj\|talk]]) 11:20, June 10, 2017 (UTC)Merijnj</span>

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	::According to a leaker on Reddit that also provided the recent picture spreading the news lately said we're getting something at the end of this month.--[[User:ACsenior\|ACsenior]] ([[User talk:ACsenior\|talk]]) 17:58, May 9, 2017 (UTC)		::According to a leaker on Reddit that also provided the recent picture spreading the news lately said we're getting something at the end of this month.--[[User:ACsenior\|ACsenior]] ([[User talk:ACsenior\|talk]]) 17:58, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

			::Maybe, I saw the recent picture, it looks very good but I can tell it's still Alpha footage. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 23:36, May 10, 2017 (UTC)

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	::Fair enough, will have to wait for Ubisoft to greenlight the rumors in June E3 this year, maybe they'll even unveil a trailer as they always typically do, possibly some gameplay as well. One thing that sticks with me though, is that rumors in the past have typically wound up becoming true in the end, but of course you are correct in stating that these rumors could turn out to be false in the end. What we have so far on the internet is all speculation, but a lot of is specific information too, such as the title of the next game, Empire or Origins. So if anything else, I will wait to see what Ubisoft reveals this summer and create the article then, if they reveal a trailer for their game. On the other hand, what do you personally think of the rumors that have spread so far? Any chance that some of them could be true? I've read that players will be able to travel as far as Greece in Empire or Origins, and that there will be a naval component implented for the Meditteranean Sea. One thing I don't like, is the inclusion or alleged inclusion of a hawk on the player's shoulder, it seems very... un-Assassin's Creed like. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 17:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)		::Fair enough, will have to wait for Ubisoft to greenlight the rumors in June E3 this year, maybe they'll even unveil a trailer as they always typically do, possibly some gameplay as well. One thing that sticks with me though, is that rumors in the past have typically wound up becoming true in the end, but of course you are correct in stating that these rumors could turn out to be false in the end. What we have so far on the internet is all speculation, but a lot of is specific information too, such as the title of the next game, Empire or Origins. So if anything else, I will wait to see what Ubisoft reveals this summer and create the article then, if they reveal a trailer for their game. On the other hand, what do you personally think of the rumors that have spread so far? Any chance that some of them could be true? I've read that players will be able to travel as far as Greece in Empire or Origins, and that there will be a naval component implented for the Meditteranean Sea. One thing I don't like, is the inclusion or alleged inclusion of a hawk on the player's shoulder, it seems very... un-Assassin's Creed like. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 17:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

			::According to a leaker on Reddit that also provided the recent picture spreading the news lately said we're getting something at the end of this month.--[[User:ACsenior\|ACsenior]] ([[User talk:ACsenior\|talk]]) 17:58, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

imported>SupremeAssassin at 17:40, 9 May 2017

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	:I had assumed I had the get go, but we've had leaks in the past regarding future titles and they've turned out to be true once Ubisoft confirmed. I figured, I could at the very least, create the article for the upcoming release, which is going to be titled Origins (Or Empire). I understand that using mere conjecture as references was not exactly the most logical thing to do, but the Wiki will end up having this article created in the future at some point, I figured I would do so now, that we are close to E3. Perhaps I'll update, or petition to reopen the article once Ubisoft has unveiled the title at E3? [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 01:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)		:I had assumed I had the get go, but we've had leaks in the past regarding future titles and they've turned out to be true once Ubisoft confirmed. I figured, I could at the very least, create the article for the upcoming release, which is going to be titled Origins (Or Empire). I understand that using mere conjecture as references was not exactly the most logical thing to do, but the Wiki will end up having this article created in the future at some point, I figured I would do so now, that we are close to E3. Perhaps I'll update, or petition to reopen the article once Ubisoft has unveiled the title at E3? [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 01:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
	::If the rumors are confirmed, then the article can be created right then and there. There's absolutely no harm in waiting for them to be confirmed to create the article. On the other hand, if the article is created preemptively before the rumors are confirmed, there's always the possibility that the rumors are false, and we helped to propagate misinformation to fans. There is also no benefit for the article to be created preemptively while there remains the possibility of harm if we do. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup>		::If the rumors are confirmed, then the article can be created right then and there. There's absolutely no harm in waiting for them to be confirmed to create the article. On the other hand, if the article is created preemptively before the rumors are confirmed, there's always the possibility that the rumors are false, and we helped to propagate misinformation to fans. There is also no benefit for the article to be created preemptively while there remains the possibility of harm if we do. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup>

			::Fair enough, will have to wait for Ubisoft to greenlight the rumors in June E3 this year, maybe they'll even unveil a trailer as they always typically do, possibly some gameplay as well. One thing that sticks with me though, is that rumors in the past have typically wound up becoming true in the end, but of course you are correct in stating that these rumors could turn out to be false in the end. What we have so far on the internet is all speculation, but a lot of is specific information too, such as the title of the next game, Empire or Origins. So if anything else, I will wait to see what Ubisoft reveals this summer and create the article then, if they reveal a trailer for their game. On the other hand, what do you personally think of the rumors that have spread so far? Any chance that some of them could be true? I've read that players will be able to travel as far as Greece in Empire or Origins, and that there will be a naval component implented for the Meditteranean Sea. One thing I don't like, is the inclusion or alleged inclusion of a hawk on the player's shoulder, it seems very... un-Assassin's Creed like. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 17:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

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	:I had assumed I had the get go, but we've had leaks in the past regarding future titles and they've turned out to be true once Ubisoft confirmed. I figured, I could at the very least, create the article for the upcoming release, which is going to be titled Origins (Or Empire). I understand that using mere conjecture as references was not exactly the most logical thing to do, but the Wiki will end up having this article created in the future at some point, I figured I would do so now, that we are close to E3. Perhaps I'll update, or petition to reopen the article once Ubisoft has unveiled the title at E3? [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 01:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)		:I had assumed I had the get go, but we've had leaks in the past regarding future titles and they've turned out to be true once Ubisoft confirmed. I figured, I could at the very least, create the article for the upcoming release, which is going to be titled Origins (Or Empire). I understand that using mere conjecture as references was not exactly the most logical thing to do, but the Wiki will end up having this article created in the future at some point, I figured I would do so now, that we are close to E3. Perhaps I'll update, or petition to reopen the article once Ubisoft has unveiled the title at E3? [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 01:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
	::If the rumors are confirmed, then the article can be created right then and there. There's absolutely no harm in waiting for them to be confirmed to create the article. On the other hand, if the article is created preemptively before the rumors are confirmed, there's always the possibility that the rumors are false, and we helped to propagate misinformation to fans. There is also no benefit for the article to be created preemptively while there remains the possibility of harm if we do. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup>		::If the rumors are confirmed, then the article can be created right then and there. There's absolutely no harm in waiting for them to be confirmed to create the article. On the other hand, if the article is created preemptively before the rumors are confirmed, there's always the possibility that the rumors are false, and we helped to propagate misinformation to fans. There is also no benefit for the article to be created preemptively while there remains the possibility of harm if we do. [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup>

			::Fair enough, will have to wait for Ubisoft to greenlight the rumors in June E3 this year, maybe they'll even unveil a trailer as they always typically do, possibly some gameplay as well. One thing that sticks with me though, is that rumors in the past have typically wound up becoming true in the end, but of course you are correct in stating that these rumors could turn out to be false in the end. What we have so far on the internet is all speculation, but a lot of is specific information too, such as the title of the next game, Empire or Origins. So if anything else, I will wait to see what Ubisoft reveals this summer and create the article then, if they reveal a trailer for their game. On the other hand, what do you personally think of the rumors that have spread so far? Any chance that some of them could be true? I've read that players will be able to travel as far as Greece in Empire or Origins, and that there will be a naval component implented for the Meditteranean Sea. One thing I don't like, is the inclusion or alleged inclusion of a hawk on the player's shoulder, it seems very... un-Assassin's Creed like. [[User:SupremeAssassin\|''<span style="font-family:Trajan Pro;color:#006080;">Supreme Master Assassin</span>'']][[User_talk:SupremeAssassin\|<sup><font color="6ce4b0">O Mentoras</font></sup>]] 17:40, May 9, 2017 (UTC)