Talk:Assassin's Creed: Dynasty - Revision history

https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AAssassin%27s_Creed%3A_Dynasty Talk:Assassin's Creed: Dynasty - Revision history 2026-06-16T20:37:13Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.42.3 https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Talk:Assassin%27s_Creed:_Dynasty&diff=579649&oldid=prev imported>陆山君阿贼 at 06:52, 4 August 2020 2020-08-04T06:52:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:52, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, both Golden Turtle or Golden Tortoise Pouch is kinda bad in any sense, since both cause confusion and are astray from the origin. Jin-Guidai is basically a silk pouch with turtle-shaped gold nuggets inside, and it's only used during Wu Zetian's regime. (It was mostly Yudai, pouch with fish-shaped nuggets inside<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">)</del> during the governance of other emperors) Yang Guozhong, once the officer of Wu Zetian, used the Jin-Guidai as the icon of the order that would continue Wu Zetian's law and strikes fear into people's hearts. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 06:51, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I mean, both Golden Turtle or Golden Tortoise Pouch is kinda bad in any sense, since both cause confusion and are astray from the origin. Jin-Guidai is basically a silk pouch with turtle-shaped gold nuggets inside, and it's only used during Wu Zetian's regime. (It was mostly Yudai, pouch with fish-shaped nuggets inside<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">,</ins> during the governance of other emperors) Yang Guozhong, once the officer of Wu Zetian, used the Jin-Guidai as the icon of the order that would continue Wu Zetian's law and strikes fear into people's hearts. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 06:51, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:51, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's no hostility going towards anyone on this platform, mostly just discontent against the translator who worked on the 'leaked' flowchart. The translation is at best mediocre, and a bad representation of the hard work and effort the author put into his work. I admit I got a bit hotheaded and overly-protective when I thought you were saying that the 'pouch' in Chinese is completely unnecessary, taking it as an insult towards our culture and history. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 06:38, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's no hostility going towards anyone on this platform, mostly just discontent against the translator who worked on the 'leaked' flowchart. The translation is at best mediocre, and a bad representation of the hard work and effort the author put into his work. I admit I got a bit hotheaded and overly-protective when I thought you were saying that the 'pouch' in Chinese is completely unnecessary, taking it as an insult towards our culture and history. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 06:38, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I mean, both Golden Turtle or Golden Tortoise Pouch is kinda bad in any sense, since both cause confusion and are astray from the origin. Jin-Guidai is basically a silk pouch with turtle-shaped gold nuggets inside, and it's only used during Wu Zetian's regime. (It was mostly Yudai, pouch with fish-shaped nuggets inside) during the governance of other emperors) Yang Guozhong, once the officer of Wu Zetian, used the Jin-Guidai as the icon of the order that would continue Wu Zetian's law and strikes fear into people's hearts. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 06:51, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:38, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's no hostility going towards anyone on this platform, mostly just discontent against the translator who worked on the 'leaked' flowchart. The translation is at best mediocre, and a bad representation of the hard work and effort the author put into his work. I admit I got a bit hotheaded and overly-protective when I thought you were saying that the 'pouch' in Chinese is completely unnecessary, taking it as an insult towards our culture and history.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There's no hostility going towards anyone on this platform, mostly just discontent against the translator who worked on the 'leaked' flowchart. The translation is at best mediocre, and a bad representation of the hard work and effort the author put into his work. I admit I got a bit hotheaded and overly-protective when I thought you were saying that the 'pouch' in Chinese is completely unnecessary, taking it as an insult towards our culture and history. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 06:38, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:38, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[File:Assassin's Creed dynasty flowchart (low quality).png|thumb|left|300px]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[File:Assassin's Creed dynasty flowchart (low quality).png|thumb|left|300px]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Here's the character chart that was released which has some English translations. Unfortunately, this was the highest resolution we have been able to find so far, and our eyes were strained trying to read it. (>_<) The name "Golden Turtles" is used. I do think that "pouch" or "bag" should be retained as the more accurate translation. I wonder if it would be wrong of us to make an exception here to sourcing policy given that this is pre-release material and may not be the most authoritative? [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:26, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Here's the character chart that was released which has some English translations. Unfortunately, this was the highest resolution we have been able to find so far, and our eyes were strained trying to read it. (>_<) The name "Golden Turtles" is used. I do think that "pouch" or "bag" should be retained as the more accurate translation. I wonder if it would be wrong of us to make an exception here to sourcing policy given that this is pre-release material and may not be the most authoritative? [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:26, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">There's no hostility going towards anyone on this platform, mostly just discontent against the translator who worked on the 'leaked' flowchart. The translation is at best mediocre, and a bad representation of the hard work and effort the author put into his work. I admit I got a bit hotheaded and overly-protective when I thought you were saying that the 'pouch' in Chinese is completely unnecessary, taking it as an insult towards our culture and history. </ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Name</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:26, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::That hostility and condescension was entirely uncalled for. All I said was that I didn't know why they kept the word in it rather than making any claims about it, hence admitting to my own ignorance and inviting any explanation. As an aside, I know that the significance is in the pouch; I didn't think that that necessarily means that the group still has to call themselves a bag for simple semantic reasons. Also, as silly as our moderator's comment might have been, it is against our guidelines to remove messages unless they are clearly spam or vandalism. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:06, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::That hostility and condescension was entirely uncalled for. All I said was that I didn't know why they kept the word in it rather than making any claims about it, hence admitting to my own ignorance and inviting any explanation. As an aside, I know that the significance is in the pouch; I didn't think that that necessarily means that the group still has to call themselves a bag for simple semantic reasons. Also, as silly as our moderator's comment might have been, it is against our guidelines to remove messages unless they are clearly spam or vandalism. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:06, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I just noticed that you're the individual who first opened this topic. If you're annoyed that we removed "pouch" from the English translation, as I said, I actually think it should stay so would be in agreement with you on that, but sourcing policy dictates that we have to go along with Ubisoft's translation, and currently the translation we have seen them use is just "Golden Turtle". :-/ I can provide the flowchart as proof if you would like. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:15, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I just noticed that you're the individual who first opened this topic. If you're annoyed that we removed "pouch" from the English translation, as I said, I actually think it should stay so would be in agreement with you on that, but sourcing policy dictates that we have to go along with Ubisoft's translation, and currently the translation we have seen them use is just "Golden Turtle". :-/ I can provide the flowchart as proof if you would like. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:15, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[File:Assassin's Creed dynasty flowchart (low quality).png|thumb|left|300px]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Here's the character chart that was released which has some English translations. Unfortunately, this was the highest resolution we have been able to find so far, and our eyes were strained trying to read it. (>_<) The name "Golden Turtles" is used. I do think that "pouch" or "bag" should be retained as the more accurate translation. I wonder if it would be wrong of us to make an exception here to sourcing policy given that this is pre-release material and may not be the most authoritative? [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:26, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Name</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:15, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Of course, they would keep the Pouch in the name since the emphasis is on 'pouch'. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it, not the turtle-shaped gold nugget inside. I'd recommend you to at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 05:49, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Of course, they would keep the Pouch in the name since the emphasis is on 'pouch'. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it, not the turtle-shaped gold nugget inside. I'd recommend you to at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 05:49, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::That hostility and condescension was entirely uncalled for. All I said was that I didn't know why they kept the word in it rather than making any claims about it, hence admitting to my own ignorance and inviting any explanation. As an aside, I know that the significance is in the pouch; I didn't think that that necessarily means that the group still has to call themselves a bag for simple semantic reasons. Also, as silly as our moderator's comment might have been, it is against our guidelines to remove messages unless they are clearly spam or vandalism. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:06, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::That hostility and condescension was entirely uncalled for. All I said was that I didn't know why they kept the word in it rather than making any claims about it, hence admitting to my own ignorance and inviting any explanation. As an aside, I know that the significance is in the pouch; I didn't think that that necessarily means that the group still has to call themselves a bag for simple semantic reasons. Also, as silly as our moderator's comment might have been, it is against our guidelines to remove messages unless they are clearly spam or vandalism. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:06, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::I just noticed that you're the individual who first opened this topic. If you're annoyed that we removed "pouch" from the English translation, as I said, I actually think it should stay so would be in agreement with you on that, but sourcing policy dictates that we have to go along with Ubisoft's translation, and currently the translation we have seen them use is just "Golden Turtle". :-/ I can provide the flowchart as proof if you would like. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:15, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Name</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:06, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yang guozhong is so evil that he used Wu Zhou's symbol →guidai，recommended to be death[[User:Master Templar Zhao|Master Templar Zhao]] ([[User talk:Master Templar Zhao|talk]]) 03:56, August 2, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yang guozhong is so evil that he used Wu Zhou's symbol →guidai，recommended to be death[[User:Master Templar Zhao|Master Templar Zhao]] ([[User talk:Master Templar Zhao|talk]]) 03:56, August 2, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The flowchart that was revealed to us contains some English translations, and "Golden Turtle" was used as the official translation. Otherwise, I would have recommended "Golden Tortoise Pouch" to be honest. Even in Chinese, I don't know why they would keep 袋 in their name even if it is their symbol. Kind of weird. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:31, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The flowchart that was revealed to us contains some English translations, and "Golden Turtle" was used as the official translation. Otherwise, I would have recommended "Golden Tortoise Pouch" to be honest. Even in Chinese, I don't know why they would keep 袋 in their name even if it is their symbol. Kind of weird. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:31, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::I do th know if this means anything but google translates "gudai" as "ancient". But if the English translation has been given then okay. Maybe they wanted another animal name like the sneak but one connected to ancientness given the name of the order. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 06:44, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::''Gudai'' means 'ancient', ''guidai'' means 'turtle bag'. But I actually would have advised against keeping ''guidai'' untranslated because I also see the meaning of ''jingui'', 'Golden Turtle', to be very clear. All in all, it won't make sense to me if we kept any part of it untranslated. But the official translators seems to have chosen to omit ''bag'' from the English to avoid the awkwardness. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:11, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::</ins>Of course, they would keep the Pouch in the name since the emphasis is on 'pouch'. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it, not the turtle-shaped gold nugget inside. I'd recommend you to at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 05:49<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Of course, they would keep the Pouch in the name since the emphasis is on 'pouch'. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it, not the turtle-shaped gold nugget inside. I'd recommend you to at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 05:49, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::That hostility and condescension was entirely uncalled for. All I said was that I didn't know why they kept the word in it rather than making any claims about it, hence admitting to my own ignorance and inviting any explanation. As an aside, I know that the significance is in the pouch; I didn't think that that necessarily means that the group still has to call themselves a bag for simple semantic reasons. Also, as silly as our moderator's comment might have been, it is against our guidelines to remove messages unless they are clearly spam or vandalism. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:06</ins>, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 07:49, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l10">Line 10:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 10:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Of course, they would keep the Pouch in the name since the emphasis is on 'pouch'. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">no </del>the turtle-shaped gold nugget inside. I'd recommend you to at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 05:49, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Of course, they would keep the Pouch in the name since the emphasis is on 'pouch'. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">not </ins>the turtle-shaped gold nugget inside. I'd recommend you to at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional. [[User:陆山君阿贼|陆山君阿贼]] ([[User talk:陆山君阿贼|talk]]) 05:49, August 4, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 07:49, 4 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yang guozhong is so evil that he used Wu Zhou's symbol →guidai，recommended to be death[[User:Master Templar Zhao|Master Templar Zhao]] ([[User talk:Master Templar Zhao|talk]]) 03:56, August 2, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yang guozhong is so evil that he used Wu Zhou's symbol →guidai，recommended to be death[[User:Master Templar Zhao|Master Templar Zhao]] ([[User talk:Master Templar Zhao|talk]]) 03:56, August 2, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The flowchart that was revealed to us contains some English translations, and "Golden Turtle" was used as the official translation. Otherwise, I would have recommended "Golden Tortoise Pouch" to be honest. Even in Chinese, I don't know why they would keep 袋 in their name even if it is their symbol. Kind of weird. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:31, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The flowchart that was revealed to us contains some English translations, and "Golden Turtle" was used as the official translation. Otherwise, I would have recommended "Golden Tortoise Pouch" to be honest. Even in Chinese, I don't know why they would keep 袋 in their name even if it is their symbol. Kind of weird. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:31, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::I do th know if this means anything but google translates "gudai" as "ancient". But if the English translation has been given then okay. Maybe </del>they <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">wanted another animal name like </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sneak but one connected to ancientness given </del>the name <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">order. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 06:44, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::</del>''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gudai'' means 'ancient'</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''guidai'' means '</del>turtle <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bag'</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">But </del>I <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">actually would have advised against keeping ''guidai'' untranslated because I also see the meaning of ''jingui'', 'Golden Turtle</del>'<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be very clear. All in all, it won't make sense to me if we kept any part of it untranslated. But the official translators seems to have chosen to omit ''bag'' from the English to avoid the awkwardness</del>. [[User:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sol Pacificus</del>|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span></del>]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><sup></del>[[User talk:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sol Pacificus</del>|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span></del>]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></sup> 08</del>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">11</del>, August <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">3</del>, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Of course, </ins>they <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">would keep </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pouch in </ins>the name <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">since </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">emphasis is on </ins>'<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pouch</ins>'<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. What signifies the ranking is the pouch with golden/silver turtle/fish inside it</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">no the </ins>turtle<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-shaped gold nugget inside</ins>. I'<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">d recommend you </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">at least read a book or two on Chinese history unless making yourself sound so mighty and ignorant is intentional</ins>. [[User:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">陆山君阿贼</ins>|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">陆山君阿贼</ins>]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(</ins>[[User talk:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">陆山君阿贼</ins>|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">talk</ins>]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">) 05</ins>:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">49</ins>, August <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">4</ins>, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Name</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:11, 3 August 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The flowchart that was revealed to us contains some English translations, and "Golden Turtle" was used as the official translation. Otherwise, I would have recommended "Golden Tortoise Pouch" to be honest. Even in Chinese, I don't know why they would keep 袋 in their name even if it is their symbol. Kind of weird. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:31, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The flowchart that was revealed to us contains some English translations, and "Golden Turtle" was used as the official translation. Otherwise, I would have recommended "Golden Tortoise Pouch" to be honest. Even in Chinese, I don't know why they would keep 袋 in their name even if it is their symbol. Kind of weird. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 06:31, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I do th know if this means anything but google translates "gudai" as "ancient". But if the English translation has been given then okay. Maybe they wanted another animal name like the sneak but one connected to ancientness given the name of the order. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 06:44, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::I do th know if this means anything but google translates "gudai" as "ancient". But if the English translation has been given then okay. Maybe they wanted another animal name like the sneak but one connected to ancientness given the name of the order. [[User:Lacrossedeamon|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon|talk]]) 06:44, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::''Gudai'' means 'ancient', ''guidai'' means turtle bag. But I actually would have advised against keeping ''guidai'' untranslated because I also see the meaning of ''jingui'', 'Golden Turtle', to be very clear. All in all, it won't make sense to me if we kept any part of it untranslated. But the official translators seems to have chosen to omit ''bag'' from the English to avoid the awkwardness. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:11, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::''Gudai'' means 'ancient', ''guidai'' means <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'</ins>turtle bag<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'</ins>. But I actually would have advised against keeping ''guidai'' untranslated because I also see the meaning of ''jingui'', 'Golden Turtle', to be very clear. All in all, it won't make sense to me if we kept any part of it untranslated. But the official translators seems to have chosen to omit ''bag'' from the English to avoid the awkwardness. [[User:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 08:11, August 3, 2020 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

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