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	They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)		They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
	*The true rifles came into use during the mid-19<sup>th</sup> Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15<sup>th</sup> Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)		*The true rifles came into use during the mid-19<sup>th</sup> Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15<sup>th</sup> Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
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	That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

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	* @ EchoAltair: why did you delete the section I wrote on Trivia? Its all true.		* @ EchoAltair: why did you delete the section I wrote on Trivia? Its all true.

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	Because I know what you mean about Arquebuses being innacurate, but Calivers were one of the first guns you could snipe with as they were alot more accurate than anything else 'on the market'...... I wasn't meant to delete the whole thing but my phone decided otherwise....... I just meant to change it slightly....... Cesare and his father pumped all the money they could in Cesare's army so they had the best of everything, believing it made them the best fighters which wasn't the case when fighting Ezio...... Alot of armies in those days settled for the cheaper options like the Arquebus and the Musket...... Sorry...... EchoAltair......		Because I know what you mean about Arquebuses being innacurate, but Calivers were one of the first guns you could snipe with as they were alot more accurate than anything else 'on the market'...... I wasn't meant to delete the whole thing but my phone decided otherwise....... I just meant to change it slightly....... Cesare and his father pumped all the money they could in Cesare's army so they had the best of everything, believing it made them the best fighters which wasn't the case when fighting Ezio...... Alot of armies in those days settled for the cheaper options like the Arquebus and the Musket...... Sorry...... EchoAltair......

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	* Why they deleted my picture of the arquebusier that appears in the single player demo of Assassin's creed brotherhood? .... [[User:Flubber]]		* Why they deleted my picture of the arquebusier that appears in the single player demo of Assassin's creed brotherhood? .... [[User:Flubber]]
	[[File:Arquebusiers_1.jpg\|thumb\|left]]		[[File:Arquebusiers_1.jpg\|thumb\|left]]
	**Reading the edit summaries would tell you what you want to know. <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 10:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)		**Reading the edit summaries would tell you what you want to know. <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 10:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

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	They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)		They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
	*The true rifles came into use during the mid-19<sup>th</sup> Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15<sup>th</sup> Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)		*The true rifles came into use during the mid-19<sup>th</sup> Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15<sup>th</sup> Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

	I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......		I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......
	*Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called ~~Arquebusiers…~~ in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		*Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called Arquebusiers… in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

	That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

imported>Sadelyrate: Sadelyrate moved page Talk:Arquebusiers to Talk:Arquebusier over redirect

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imported>Jasca Ducato at 10:39, 22 June 2010

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	* Why they deleted my picture of the arquebusier that appears in the single player demo of Assassin's creed brotherhood? .... [[User:Flubber]]		* Why they deleted my picture of the arquebusier that appears in the single player demo of Assassin's creed brotherhood? .... [[User:Flubber]]
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			**Reading the edit summaries would tell you what you want to know. <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 10:39, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

imported>Flubber at 01:58, 22 June 2010

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	Because I know what you mean about Arquebuses being innacurate, but Calivers were one of the first guns you could snipe with as they were alot more accurate than anything else 'on the market'...... I wasn't meant to delete the whole thing but my phone decided otherwise....... I just meant to change it slightly....... Cesare and his father pumped all the money they could in Cesare's army so they had the best of everything, believing it made them the best fighters which wasn't the case when fighting Ezio...... Alot of armies in those days settled for the cheaper options like the Arquebus and the Musket...... Sorry...... EchoAltair......		Because I know what you mean about Arquebuses being innacurate, but Calivers were one of the first guns you could snipe with as they were alot more accurate than anything else 'on the market'...... I wasn't meant to delete the whole thing but my phone decided otherwise....... I just meant to change it slightly....... Cesare and his father pumped all the money they could in Cesare's army so they had the best of everything, believing it made them the best fighters which wasn't the case when fighting Ezio...... Alot of armies in those days settled for the cheaper options like the Arquebus and the Musket...... Sorry...... EchoAltair......

			* Why they deleted my picture of the arquebusier that appears in the single player demo of Assassin's creed brotherhood? .... [[User:Flubber]]
			[[File:Arquebusiers_1.jpg\|thumb\|left]]

imported>Master Sima Yi: moved Talk:Arquebusier to Talk:Arquebusiers

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moved Talk:Arquebusier to Talk:Arquebusiers

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imported>EchoAltair at 18:26, 21 June 2010

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	* @ general public: Please keep in mind the difference between smoothbore firearms and rifled firearms. There is a difference. The Arquebus is a smoothbore firearm. [[User:Firebat11\|Firebat11]] 18:02, June 21, 2010 (UTC)		* @ general public: Please keep in mind the difference between smoothbore firearms and rifled firearms. There is a difference. The Arquebus is a smoothbore firearm. [[User:Firebat11\|Firebat11]] 18:02, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

			Because I know what you mean about Arquebuses being innacurate, but Calivers were one of the first guns you could snipe with as they were alot more accurate than anything else 'on the market'...... I wasn't meant to delete the whole thing but my phone decided otherwise....... I just meant to change it slightly....... Cesare and his father pumped all the money they could in Cesare's army so they had the best of everything, believing it made them the best fighters which wasn't the case when fighting Ezio...... Alot of armies in those days settled for the cheaper options like the Arquebus and the Musket...... Sorry...... EchoAltair......

imported>Firebat11 at 18:02, 21 June 2010

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	That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

			* @ EchoAltair: why did you delete the section I wrote on Trivia? Its all true.

			* @ general public: Please keep in mind the difference between smoothbore firearms and rifled firearms. There is a difference. The Arquebus is a smoothbore firearm. [[User:Firebat11\|Firebat11]] 18:02, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

imported>EchoAltair at 10:02, 17 June 2010

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	I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......		I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......
	*Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called Arquebusiers… in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		*Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called Arquebusiers… in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

			That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

imported>Jasca Ducato: moved Talk:Musketeer to Talk:Arquebusier: more historically correct name

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	They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)		They aren't musketeers and that gun ain't a musket...... It's a Caliver which would fit under riflemen......[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 04:59, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
	*The true rifles came into use during the mid-19<sup>th</sup> Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15<sup>th</sup> Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)		*The true rifles came into use during the mid-19<sup>th</sup> Century; whilst there were "rifles" available during the 15<sup>th</sup> Century, they were even more prone to misfire and crappiness then muskets, so it's is extremely unlikely for soldiers protecting a Pope to be armed with rifles, and not muskets. Also, no information we have had has explicitly called them "riflemen", and not musketeers, so we should probably place them under the most likely. That said, if you can find a source explicitly calling them "riflemen", then I'll concede. -- <span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 11:03, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

	I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......		I've found out off my grandfather who's an expert in guns and history and he says they were called Arquebusiers...... The Arquebus was the original rifle and the was succeeded by the Caliver and a little later on, the Musket...... In all the demos the guns they use are too short to be Muskets, not alot of soldiers liked them because they were top heavy and you need to put it on a rest whenever you needed to shoot it. As the don't need rests and look alot shorter, thus, easier to manouvre suggesting they're Calivers...... Apparently, Musketeer is slang anyway, their proper name was Arquebusier, whether they used an Arquebus, Caliver ir Musket...... I don't know how to physically 'source' the information though...... EchoAltair......
	*Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called ~~Arquebusiers…~~ in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		*Damn, can't believe I forgot about them being called Arquebusiers… in all honesty, I did think the firearms looked a little short to be muskets, but they're the perfect size for an arquebus. As I already mentioned though EchoAltair, no information has been released explicitly naming them, and so we should place it under a placeholder name that best fits the time period. Originally I thought "Musketeer", but now you brought up "Arquebusier", I'll move it to that. --<span style="color:#BF404D">'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|Council Chamber]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Jasca_Ducato\|Assassination record]]</sup></span> 01:18, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

	That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)		That's cool, thanks..... EchoAltair.....[[User:EchoAltair\|EchoAltair]] 10:02, June 17, 2010 (UTC)