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imported>Lacrossedeamon: /* Al Mualim's quote */

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Al Mualim's quote

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	:: EDIT: Come to think of it, one retcon the brand team could do with this would be saying that Al Mualim was wrong. He believed they were illusions but actually the parting of the red sea and Jesus turning water into wine did happen. In ACIII, among the solutions Juno told us, is one that could make thoughts reality. She says that the Apples were able to create stuff out of nothing if humans were put there and forced to believe. If you ordered them to believe that there was a tree, the tree appeared in front of them... Pretty fantastic if you ask me... :/ [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)		:: EDIT: Come to think of it, one retcon the brand team could do with this would be saying that Al Mualim was wrong. He believed they were illusions but actually the parting of the red sea and Jesus turning water into wine did happen. In ACIII, among the solutions Juno told us, is one that could make thoughts reality. She says that the Apples were able to create stuff out of nothing if humans were put there and forced to believe. If you ordered them to believe that there was a tree, the tree appeared in front of them... Pretty fantastic if you ask me... :/ [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

	== Al Mualim's quote ==		==Al Mualim's quote==
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	I think it’s pretty misleading given that it’s been partially retconned with the extra lore we got about Jesus and Moses or he wasn’t referring to the Apple but Pieces of Eden in general. Should it Ben replaced with a more specific quote? [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 00:56, April 16, 2020 (UTC)		I think it’s pretty misleading given that it’s been partially retconned with the extra lore we got about Jesus and Moses or he wasn’t referring to the Apple but Pieces of Eden in general. Should it Ben replaced with a more specific quote? [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 00:56, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

imported>Lacrossedeamon: /* Al Mualim's quote */ new section

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Al Mualim's quote: new section

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	:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c:		:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c:
	:: EDIT: Come to think of it, one retcon the brand team could do with this would be saying that Al Mualim was wrong. He believed they were illusions but actually the parting of the red sea and Jesus turning water into wine did happen. In ACIII, among the solutions Juno told us, is one that could make thoughts reality. She says that the Apples were able to create stuff out of nothing if humans were put there and forced to believe. If you ordered them to believe that there was a tree, the tree appeared in front of them... Pretty fantastic if you ask me... :/ [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)		:: EDIT: Come to think of it, one retcon the brand team could do with this would be saying that Al Mualim was wrong. He believed they were illusions but actually the parting of the red sea and Jesus turning water into wine did happen. In ACIII, among the solutions Juno told us, is one that could make thoughts reality. She says that the Apples were able to create stuff out of nothing if humans were put there and forced to believe. If you ordered them to believe that there was a tree, the tree appeared in front of them... Pretty fantastic if you ask me... :/ [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

			== Al Mualim's quote ==

			I think it’s pretty misleading given that it’s been partially retconned with the extra lore we got about Jesus and Moses or he wasn’t referring to the Apple but Pieces of Eden in general. Should it Ben replaced with a more specific quote? [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 00:56, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

imported>RebeccaAWB: Adding {{Talkheader}}

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imported>Cristophorus35: Expanded

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	:: Personally, I always thought Al Mualim was talking about Apples when he was mentioning all of those events. The way he talks, the way he moves, the way he looks at the Apple while speaking all of that stuff... I also thought that the Apple he had and the ones used by Jesus or Moses were one and the same, but Nah. This seems to confirm the Apple showed to him the truth about the parting of the red sea, some of Jesus miracles and blah blah blah. This also seems to confirm that the Apples share some kind of connection between them, some Isu Wi-Fi that shares information across space (and maybe time).		:: Personally, I always thought Al Mualim was talking about Apples when he was mentioning all of those events. The way he talks, the way he moves, the way he looks at the Apple while speaking all of that stuff... I also thought that the Apple he had and the ones used by Jesus or Moses were one and the same, but Nah. This seems to confirm the Apple showed to him the truth about the parting of the red sea, some of Jesus miracles and blah blah blah. This also seems to confirm that the Apples share some kind of connection between them, some Isu Wi-Fi that shares information across space (and maybe time).

	:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c: [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)		:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c:
			:: EDIT: Come to think of it, one retcon the brand team could do with this would be saying that Al Mualim was wrong. He believed they were illusions but actually the parting of the red sea and Jesus turning water into wine did happen. In ACIII, among the solutions Juno told us, is one that could make thoughts reality. She says that the Apples were able to create stuff out of nothing if humans were put there and forced to believe. If you ordered them to believe that there was a tree, the tree appeared in front of them... Pretty fantastic if you ask me... :/ [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

imported>Cristophorus35: Corrected spelling/grammar

2019-02-06T20:09:06Z

Corrected spelling/grammar

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	Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)		Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
	:I never took Al Mualim's quote to mean Apples specifically but Pieces of Eden in general, especially since later it was revealed that Jesus and Moses possessed Pieces other than Apples. As for the Trojan War my headcanon is that Paris traded an Apple for the Devotion Prong and used that to abscond with Helen. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)		:I never took Al Mualim's quote to mean Apples specifically but Pieces of Eden in general, especially since later it was revealed that Jesus and Moses possessed Pieces other than Apples. As for the Trojan War my headcanon is that Paris traded an Apple for the Devotion Prong and used that to abscond with Helen. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)


	:: Personally, I always thought Al Mualim was talking about Apples when he was mentioning all of those events. The way he talks, the way he moves, the way he looks at the Apple while speaking all of that stuff... I also thought that the Apple he had and the ones used by Jesus or Moses were one and the same, but Nah. This seems to confirm the Apple showed to him the truth about the parting of the red sea, some of Jesus miracles and blah blah blah. This also seems to confirm that the Apples share some kind of connection between them, some Isu Wi-Fi that shares information across space (and maybe time).		:: Personally, I always thought Al Mualim was talking about Apples when he was mentioning all of those events. The way he talks, the way he moves, the way he looks at the Apple while speaking all of that stuff... I also thought that the Apple he had and the ones used by Jesus or Moses were one and the same, but Nah. This seems to confirm the Apple showed to him the truth about the parting of the red sea, some of Jesus miracles and blah blah blah. This also seems to confirm that the Apples share some kind of connection between them, some Isu Wi-Fi that shares information across space (and maybe time).

	:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c: [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)		:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c: [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

imported>Cristophorus35: Expanded

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	The association is kinda fine, but it doesn't really explain the real nature of these events. In Memory Block 7 (Memory 1) Al Mualim reveals that these events didn't happen physically, they were illusions: "''The Red Sea was never parted, water never turned to wine. It was not the machinations of Eris that spawned the Trojan War, but this! Illusions, all of them!".''		The association is kinda fine, but it doesn't really explain the real nature of these events. In Memory Block 7 (Memory 1) Al Mualim reveals that these events didn't happen physically, they were illusions: "''The Red Sea was never parted, water never turned to wine. It was not the machinations of Eris that spawned the Trojan War, but this! Illusions, all of them!".''

	I think putting something like this will do: ''"Al Mualim once remarked that Apples had been used to create powerful illusions across history: For example, it was used by Moses to turn his staff in a snake and to part and close the Red Sea, and by Jesus to turn water into wine. Also, he mentions that an Apple of Eden was responsible for starting the Trojan War and not Eris."'' (Maybe Paris got an Apple of Eden somehow and used it to ~~hypnotise~~ Helen and took her to Troy or something like that).		I think putting something like this will do: ''"Al Mualim once remarked that Apples had been used to create powerful illusions across history: For example, it was used by Moses to turn his staff in a snake and to part and close the Red Sea, and by Jesus to turn water into wine. Also, he mentions that an Apple of Eden was responsible for starting the Trojan War and not Eris."'' (Maybe Paris got an Apple of Eden somehow and used it to hypnotize Helen and took her to Troy or something like that).

	That'd be interesting~~, if~~ the part of the Red Sea was an illusion, that'd turn Moses into a mass murderer.(?)		That'd be interesting. If the part of the Red Sea was an illusion, that'd turn Moses into a mass murderer. In the universe of AC, of course. (?)

	Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)		Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
	:I never took Al Mualim's quote to mean Apples specifically but Pieces of Eden in general, especially since later it was revealed that Jesus and Moses possessed Pieces other than Apples. As for the Trojan War my headcanon is that Paris traded an Apple for the Devotion Prong and used that to abscond with Helen. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)		:I never took Al Mualim's quote to mean Apples specifically but Pieces of Eden in general, especially since later it was revealed that Jesus and Moses possessed Pieces other than Apples. As for the Trojan War my headcanon is that Paris traded an Apple for the Devotion Prong and used that to abscond with Helen. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)


			:: Personally, I always thought Al Mualim was talking about Apples when he was mentioning all of those events. The way he talks, the way he moves, the way he looks at the Apple while speaking all of that stuff... I also thought that the Apple he had and the ones used by Jesus or Moses were one and the same, but Nah. This seems to confirm the Apple showed to him the truth about the parting of the red sea, some of Jesus miracles and blah blah blah. This also seems to confirm that the Apples share some kind of connection between them, some Isu Wi-Fi that shares information across space (and maybe time).

			:: Anyway, I'm going to proceed. Thank you c: [[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 20:08, February 6, 2019 (UTC)

imported>Lacrossedeamon: /* Things Al Mualim says */

2019-02-04T02:19:05Z

Things Al Mualim says

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	Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)		Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
			:I never took Al Mualim's quote to mean Apples specifically but Pieces of Eden in general, especially since later it was revealed that Jesus and Moses possessed Pieces other than Apples. As for the Trojan War my headcanon is that Paris traded an Apple for the Devotion Prong and used that to abscond with Helen. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 02:19, February 4, 2019 (UTC)

imported>Cristophorus35: /* New Question */ new section

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New Question: new section

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	::Because Darby is known for trolling the fans occasionally. If this ever gets stated in one of the games, fine, but I refuse to see ''"Ezio’s apple was a red delicious. The others were a granny smith, a braeburn, a honey crisp, and a fuji, in that order."'' (what even?) as proof that Ezio's apple was somehow more powerful. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 19:44, January 25, 2016 (UTC)		::Because Darby is known for trolling the fans occasionally. If this ever gets stated in one of the games, fine, but I refuse to see ''"Ezio’s apple was a red delicious. The others were a granny smith, a braeburn, a honey crisp, and a fuji, in that order."'' (what even?) as proof that Ezio's apple was somehow more powerful. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 19:44, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

			== New Question ==

			==Things Al Mualim says==
			Hello!

			Now that the Apples Al Mualim mentions have been added to the list, I'd like to modify what has been stated in the article.

			Textually, it says: ''"Al Mualim once remarked that Apples had been used by Moses to turn his staff in a snake and to part and close the Red Sea, by Eris to start the Trojan War, and by Jesus to turn water into wine."''

			The association is kinda fine, but it doesn't really explain the real nature of these events. In Memory Block 7 (Memory 1) Al Mualim reveals that these events didn't happen physically, they were illusions: "''The Red Sea was never parted, water never turned to wine. It was not the machinations of Eris that spawned the Trojan War, but this! Illusions, all of them!".''

			I think putting something like this will do: ''"Al Mualim once remarked that Apples had been used to create powerful illusions across history: For example, it was used by Moses to turn his staff in a snake and to part and close the Red Sea, and by Jesus to turn water into wine. Also, he mentions that an Apple of Eden was responsible for starting the Trojan War and not Eris."'' (Maybe Paris got an Apple of Eden somehow and used it to hypnotise Helen and took her to Troy or something like that).

			That'd be interesting, if the part of the Red Sea was an illusion, that'd turn Moses into a mass murderer.(?)

			Anyway, any suggestions?[[User:Cristophorus35\|Cristophorus35]] ([[User talk:Cristophorus35\|talk]]) 23:18, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: Master Sima Yi moved page Talk:Apple of Eden to Talk:Apples of Eden over redirect: No informative purpose to moving these artifact articles to singular.

2018-10-07T12:27:40Z

Master Sima Yi moved page Talk:Apple of Eden to Talk:Apples of Eden over redirect: No informative purpose to moving these artifact articles to singular.

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imported>Sol Pacificus: Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Apples of Eden to Talk:Apple of Eden: Grammar. Long overdue... pluralizing to disambiguate is very improper. There's no need to disambiguate anyways.

2018-07-22T23:07:29Z

Sol Pacificus moved page Talk:Apples of Eden to Talk:Apple of Eden: Grammar. Long overdue... pluralizing to disambiguate is very improper. There's no need to disambiguate anyways.

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