Talk:Anastasia Nikolaevna of Russia - Revision history

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	::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)		::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
	:::Bump. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 09:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)		:::Bump. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 09:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
			::::I think it's an interesting idea. Plus if Anastasia actually being Anna Anderson in the AC Universe means that IRL Anna Anderson didn't exist, then I guess I'm for having her death date as IRL Anna's. [[User:VilkaIsBack\|VilkaIsBack]] ([[User talk:VilkaIsBack\|talk]]) 08:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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imported>Lacrossedeamon: /* Date of Death */

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	Should we add the real life date of death of Ana Anderson as Anastasia's? [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 11:38, February 12, 2016 (UTC)		Should we add the real life date of death of Ana Anderson as Anastasia's? [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 11:38, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

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	::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)		::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)
			:::Bump. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 09:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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42.61.223.19: /* Inaccuracies */ new section

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	[[User:TessaVarzi\|TessaVarzi]] ([[User talk:TessaVarzi\|talk]]) 01:08, February 15, 2016 (UTC)Tessa Varzi		[[User:TessaVarzi\|TessaVarzi]] ([[User talk:TessaVarzi\|talk]]) 01:08, February 15, 2016 (UTC)Tessa Varzi
	:That's why I included it in the Trivia section. Many historical facts/discrepancies in the AC series are included in trivia sections. I don't know why that Anon removed it, but thanks for reverting it! -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 02:56, February 15, 2016 (UTC)		:That's why I included it in the Trivia section. Many historical facts/discrepancies in the AC series are included in trivia sections. I don't know why that Anon removed it, but thanks for reverting it! -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 02:56, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

			== Inaccuracies ==

			Just like to point out that Anastasia never wore a ponytail. She and her sisters all had hairstyles resembling a chignon (their hairstyles were loose prior to turning 16). This is a common mistake but come on, ubi couldn't even get this minor detail right? Did they seriously use that dreadful Anastasia animated film as reference?

			https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/Anamashtat1917.jpg

			Also find it awkward and cold of Nikolai to just leave her after what she'd been through, instead of accompanying her to reunite with her relatives. Imagine the reward they would've given Nikolai had he done so. Olga Alexandrovna, her aunt, and Louis Mountbatten, her cousin, were very close to Anastasia. Not to mention her French & English tutors, Pierre Gilliard and Sydney Gibbs. Sorry, just disappointed with this game. If ubi wanted my money they should've done better. [[Special:Contributions/42.61.223.19\|42.61.223.19]] 04:09, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Zero-ELEC: Left comment

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	[[User:TessaVarzi\|TessaVarzi]] ([[User talk:TessaVarzi\|talk]]) 01:08, February 15, 2016 (UTC)Tessa Varzi		[[User:TessaVarzi\|TessaVarzi]] ([[User talk:TessaVarzi\|talk]]) 01:08, February 15, 2016 (UTC)Tessa Varzi
			:That's why I included it in the Trivia section. Many historical facts/discrepancies in the AC series are included in trivia sections. I don't know why that Anon removed it, but thanks for reverting it! -- [[User:Zero-ELEC\|Zero-ELEC]] ([[User talk:Zero-ELEC\|talk]]) 02:56, February 15, 2016 (UTC)

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	::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)		::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

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			I did not even notice this talk page was up until after i reverted the edit where the trivia bit that was removed was reinstated, oops. I reverted it as the trivia bit concerns the real life individual anna anderson who had claimed she was the Anastasia Nikolaevna, thereby i think it is perfectly legitimate for it to be included with the article. That is only my two cents of course.



			[[User:TessaVarzi\|TessaVarzi]] ([[User talk:TessaVarzi\|talk]]) 01:08, February 15, 2016 (UTC)Tessa Varzi

imported>The Wikia Editor at 23:46, 12 February 2016

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	Also, the historical Anna Anderson actually claimed to be Anastasia Nikolaevna, which doesn't fit into the whole idea that Anastasia wanted to erase her identity.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 21:56, February 12, 2016 (UTC)		Also, the historical Anna Anderson actually claimed to be Anastasia Nikolaevna, which doesn't fit into the whole idea that Anastasia wanted to erase her identity.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 21:56, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

	::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)		::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can agree Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

imported>The Wikia Editor at 23:45, 12 February 2016

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	Also, the historical Anna Anderson actually claimed to be Anastasia Nikolaevna, which doesn't fit into the whole idea that Anastasia wanted to erase her identity.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 21:56, February 12, 2016 (UTC)		Also, the historical Anna Anderson actually claimed to be Anastasia Nikolaevna, which doesn't fit into the whole idea that Anastasia wanted to erase her identity.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 21:56, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

			::There is actually some debate as to whether Anderson was a deliberate impostor, delusional, or traumatized to the point that she was willing to take on a new identity, and I think we can Anastasia wasn't in the most stable mindset when we last saw her. As for the Anne Bonny example, we have an actual source showing us a different date of death. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only exceptions to the birth/death dates are the ones that are explicitly shown to be different, such as Garnier de Naplouse or William of Montferrat. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 0:45, February 13, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Bovkaffe: /* Date of Death */

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	No, because it's speculative. They're already taking liberties with actual history, and I feel that this is a case similar to [[Anne Bonny]] where she has a completely different death date. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 16:23, February 12, 2016 (UTC)		No, because it's speculative. They're already taking liberties with actual history, and I feel that this is a case similar to [[Anne Bonny]] where she has a completely different death date. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 16:23, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

			Also, the historical Anna Anderson actually claimed to be Anastasia Nikolaevna, which doesn't fit into the whole idea that Anastasia wanted to erase her identity.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 21:56, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Date of Death */

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	Yes, we should. That's what I've been thinking since I found out that in this game Anastasia became Anna. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:16, February 12, 2016 (UTC)		Yes, we should. That's what I've been thinking since I found out that in this game Anastasia became Anna. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:16, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

			No, because it's speculative. They're already taking liberties with actual history, and I feel that this is a case similar to [[Anne Bonny]] where she has a completely different death date. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 16:23, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

imported>GamerSophie: /* Date of Death */

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	Should we add the real life date of death of Ana Anderson as Anastasia's? [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 11:38, February 12, 2016 (UTC)		Should we add the real life date of death of Ana Anderson as Anastasia's? [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 11:38, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

			Yes, we should. That's what I've been thinking since I found out that in this game Anastasia became Anna. [[User:GamerSophie\|GamerSophie]] ([[User talk:GamerSophie\|talk]]) 16:16, February 12, 2016 (UTC)