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	:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::Now that’s the kind of kinky stuff I signed up for. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 20:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' / ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least ~~believe~~ that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' / ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believe that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	shrug I might just do that... >_> One last question though. If the sequence where Narakas appears and Kassandra appearing as the Eagle-Bearer in Brotherhood of Venice are both considerably valid hy hasn't any of that evidence been used as citations in both Alexios and Kassandra's articles? [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 11:38, November 18, 2019 (UTC)		shrug I might just do that... >_> One last question though. If the sequence where Narakas appears and Kassandra appearing as the Eagle-Bearer in Brotherhood of Venice are both considerably valid hy hasn't any of that evidence been used as citations in both Alexios and Kassandra's articles? [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 11:38, November 18, 2019 (UTC)
	:Annnnnnd I tried, but they turned out to be less knowledgable than you guys despite being somewhat more polite. ~_~ [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 16:45, November 21, 2019 (UTC)		:Annnnnnd I tried, but they turned out to be less knowledgable than you guys despite being somewhat more polite. ~_~ [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 16:45, November 21, 2019 (UTC)

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	:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::Now that’s the kind of kinky stuff I signed up for. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 20:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[w:c:assassinscreed:User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
			:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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	Can we make a share page for Alexios and Kassandra under the name of "the eagle" as they was called during the gameplay. It will be more easy for the future writing of their story.[[User:Francesco75\|Francesco75]] ([[User talk:Francesco75\|talk]]) 06:42, June 12, 2018 (UTC)		Can we make a share page for Alexios and Kassandra under the name of "the eagle" as they was called during the gameplay. It will be more easy for the future writing of their story.[[User:Francesco75\|Francesco75]] ([[User talk:Francesco75\|talk]]) 06:42, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
	:This, or something along the lines, gets my vote, too. Would make linking stuff like "descendant of Leonidas" easier, too. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 10:40, June 12, 2018 (UTC)		:This, or something along the lines, gets my vote, too. Would make linking stuff like "descendant of Leonidas" easier, too. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 10:40, June 12, 2018 (UTC)


	How about, since the official reveal and E3 gameplay was ''all ''Kassandra, choose her for now? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 08:25, June 12, 2018 (UTC)		How about, since the official reveal and E3 gameplay was ''all ''Kassandra, choose her for now? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 08:25, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
	:In contrast, on boxart + all official promo images is Alexios. So don't think we should use her as canon, i think they will be showing both of them trought year. But we will need to find some way to do it, if rumors are correct that main antagonist of game would be protagonist you didnt choose. --[[User:Kulurak\|Kulurak]] ([[User talk:Kulurak\|talk]]) 10:22, June 12, 2018 (UTC)		:In contrast, on boxart + all official promo images is Alexios. So don't think we should use her as canon, i think they will be showing both of them trought year. But we will need to find some way to do it, if rumors are correct that main antagonist of game would be protagonist you didnt choose. --[[User:Kulurak\|Kulurak]] ([[User talk:Kulurak\|talk]]) 10:22, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
	::''Currently''. Before yesterday, we didn't even know about Kassandra, the chance to pick the protagonist. So would your position change if they came out with box art, a slew of promo (and other) pics featuring her? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 10:40, June 12, 2018 (UTC)		::''Currently''. Before yesterday, we didn't even know about Kassandra, the chance to pick the protagonist. So would your position change if they came out with box art, a slew of promo (and other) pics featuring her? [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 10:40, June 12, 2018 (UTC)

	According to the trivia, the novelization of the game considered Kassandra to be canon, therefore shes the main character. Its a shame kinda, I was leaning towards Alexios due to his stature everything.{{unsigned\|AaronFireBird1}}		According to the trivia, the novelization of the game considered Kassandra to be canon, therefore shes the main character. Its a shame kinda, I was leaning towards Alexios due to his stature everything.{{unsigned\|AaronFireBird1}}
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	: More importantly though, if it's absolutely implicit that Kassandra is the canon choice, why even bother giving us Alexios to play as to begin with? Is it to be explained away that Kassandra was able to do all those male-restricted things from the childhood Spartan training to the male-only olympics because she had demi-isu strength? Why is the only difference we see with the story are the male vs. female pronouns along with the respective names used? If Alexios essentially doesn't matter as a playable character, why even have him as playable at all? Was Ubisoft simply worried that an exclusively female protagonist wouldn't sell well despite the fact that they've done it before along with other franchises? [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 08:40, November 18, 2019 (UTC)		: More importantly though, if it's absolutely implicit that Kassandra is the canon choice, why even bother giving us Alexios to play as to begin with? Is it to be explained away that Kassandra was able to do all those male-restricted things from the childhood Spartan training to the male-only olympics because she had demi-isu strength? Why is the only difference we see with the story are the male vs. female pronouns along with the respective names used? If Alexios essentially doesn't matter as a playable character, why even have him as playable at all? Was Ubisoft simply worried that an exclusively female protagonist wouldn't sell well despite the fact that they've done it before along with other franchises? [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 08:40, November 18, 2019 (UTC)

	: My 2¢? By now this discussion, your questions, Christengo, might be better suited for Ubisoft's forums. Lacrossedeamon has aptly answered your question in regards to this wiki. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 09:00, November 18, 2019 (UTC)		: My 2¢? By now this discussion, your questions, Christengo, might be better suited for Ubisoft's forums. Lacrossedeamon has aptly answered your question in regards to this wiki. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 09:00, November 18, 2019 (UTC)
	shrug I might just do that... >_> One last question though. If the sequence where Narakas appears and Kassandra appearing as the Eagle-Bearer in Brotherhood of Venice are both considerably valid hy hasn't any of that evidence been used as citations in both Alexios and Kassandra's articles? [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 11:38, November 18, 2019 (UTC)		shrug I might just do that... >_> One last question though. If the sequence where Narakas appears and Kassandra appearing as the Eagle-Bearer in Brotherhood of Venice are both considerably valid hy hasn't any of that evidence been used as citations in both Alexios and Kassandra's articles? [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 11:38, November 18, 2019 (UTC)
	:Annnnnnd I tried, but they turned out to be less knowledgable than you guys despite being somewhat more polite. ~_~ [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 16:45, November 21, 2019 (UTC)		:Annnnnnd I tried, but they turned out to be less knowledgable than you guys despite being somewhat more polite. ~_~ [[User:Christengo\|Christengo]] ([[User talk:Christengo\|talk]]) 16:45, November 21, 2019 (UTC)
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	==Lineage==		==Lineage==
	According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		According to ''[[Assassin's Creed: The Essential Guide]]'' 2nd edition (page 47), Alexios is the full brother of [[Kassandra]]. They are both children of [[Myrrine]] and [[Pythagoras]]. Are there any other sources to support/oppose this?[[User:VilkaTheWolf\|<span style="text-shadow:1px 1px 1px; color:white;"><span style="font-family: Impact"><span style="color: green">V </span><span style="color: gold">i </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">k </span><span style="color: green">a </span><span style="color: gold">T </span><span style="color: green">h </span><span style="color: gold">e </span><span style="color: green">W </span><span style="color: gold">o </span><span style="color: green">l </span><span style="color: gold">f </span></span></span>]] ([[User talk:Boofhead185\|talk]]) 13:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:There's [[Nikolaos]]' comment in [[The Wolf of Sparta]]: ''"I failed to protect you... to protect both of you. I loved you—and your brother as if you were truly my own. But you were never mine."'' OR ''"I loved you and your brother... You were never truly mine..."'' Granted, given English' 'you' being both singular and plural, especially the latter is... vague. But in any case, Nikolaos at least believed that neither of them were his. In Kassandra's case, she was born even before Myrrine and Nikolaos met, according to the former in one of the Naxos-storyline memories. [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 13:49, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		::So all this time we mistakenly assumed Alexios is the biological son of Nikolaos when he is also a biological son of Pythagoras? =_= [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:31, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::It’s a tricky situation. From what I’ve heard in non English dialogue Nikolaos switches from plural you to singular you when saying "you were never truly mine" implying he was only talking about Kassandra there. There’s also the fact that Alexios doesn’t get mentioned at all during Kassandra's meeting with Pythagoras in either the game or the novel. It also doesn’t make much sense for Pythagoras to have left twice and gone to the same woman each time, at least to me. However there is then the Essential Guide and some of the dialogue during the Cultist meeting and Kass and Alexios's meeting on Andros that implies otherwise. Maybe this could be a BtS topic unless we can get an Ubisoft official to weigh in on it. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:33, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Edit: Cyf, how you worded your last comment makes it almost sound like Alexios is the child of both Nikolaos and Pythagoras. And now all I can think is that the staff allows for mpreg. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 19:35, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[~~w:c:assassinscreed:~~User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::(Considering we’re dealing with Isu... I’m not putting anything beyond them. ;) ) [[User:Sadelyrate\|Sadelyrate]] ([[User talk:Sadelyrate\|siniath]]) 20:07, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Maybe Alexios was conceived in a threesome with Myrrine, Nikolaos and Pythagoras. We can't be sure. - [[User:Soranin\|Soranin]] ([[User talk:Soranin\|talk]]) 20:17, June 4, 2020 (UTC)
	:::Now that’s the kind of kinky stuff I signed up for. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 20:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)		:::Now that’s the kind of kinky stuff I signed up for. [[User:Lacrossedeamon\|Lacrossedeamon]] ([[User talk:Lacrossedeamon\|talk]]) 20:41, June 4, 2020 (UTC)