Talk:Aguilar de Nerha - Revision history

imported>RebeccaAWB: Adding {{Talkheader}}

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	==Image of Aguilar==		==Image of Aguilar==
	Without wanting to sound pedantic, or being a jobsworth, currently the Yahoo source only states that Fassbender is playing Lynch; no mention is made of him playing Aguilar. Likewise, the image of the very 15th Century looking Assassin we currently have on this page is captioned ''"Meet Michael Fassbender as Callum Lynch in Assassin’s Creed."''		Without wanting to sound pedantic, or being a jobsworth, currently the Yahoo source only states that Fassbender is playing Lynch; no mention is made of him playing Aguilar. Likewise, the image of the very 15th Century looking Assassin we currently have on this page is captioned ''"Meet Michael Fassbender as Callum Lynch in Assassin’s Creed."''

imported>Jasca Ducato: /* 1491 or 1492 */

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	Considering the events of the last Aguilar scene in the movie have been confirmed to have taken place on 2 January 1492, it makes a lot more sense for his induction into the Assassins to have happened in 1491. The novelization even states that it happened in 1491 and personally, I find the novelization to be a more accurate source given the movie was riddled with lore inconsistencies.[[User:N217062\|N217062]] ([[User talk:N217062\|talk]]) 21:13, December 28, 2017 (UTC)		Considering the events of the last Aguilar scene in the movie have been confirmed to have taken place on 2 January 1492, it makes a lot more sense for his induction into the Assassins to have happened in 1491. The novelization even states that it happened in 1491 and personally, I find the novelization to be a more accurate source given the movie was riddled with lore inconsistencies.[[User:N217062\|N217062]] ([[User talk:N217062\|talk]]) 21:13, December 28, 2017 (UTC)
			:It is entirely possible (however unlikely) for Aguilar to have been inducted into the Assassin Order on January 1st, and for the events depicted to have all taken place within a two day period. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 12:43, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

imported>N217062: /* 1491 or 1492 */

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	Considering the events of the last Aguilar scene in the movie have been confirmed to have taken place on 2 January 1492, it makes a lot more sense for his induction into the Assassins to have happened in 1491. The novelization even states that it happened in 1491 and personally, I find the novelization to be a more accurate source given the movie was riddled with lore inconsistencies.		Considering the events of the last Aguilar scene in the movie have been confirmed to have taken place on 2 January 1492, it makes a lot more sense for his induction into the Assassins to have happened in 1491. The novelization even states that it happened in 1491 and personally, I find the novelization to be a more accurate source given the movie was riddled with lore inconsistencies.[[User:N217062\|N217062]] ([[User talk:N217062\|talk]]) 21:13, December 28, 2017 (UTC)

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	--[[User:Sekuiya\|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;">Sekuiya</span>]][[User talk:Sekuiya\|<sup><span style="color:#FF7B1B;">talk</span></sup>]] 12:19, July 8, 2017 (UTC)		--[[User:Sekuiya\|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;">Sekuiya</span>]][[User talk:Sekuiya\|<sup><span style="color:#FF7B1B;">talk</span></sup>]] 12:19, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

			== 1491 or 1492 ==

			Considering the events of the last Aguilar scene in the movie have been confirmed to have taken place on 2 January 1492, it makes a lot more sense for his induction into the Assassins to have happened in 1491. The novelization even states that it happened in 1491 and personally, I find the novelization to be a more accurate source given the movie was riddled with lore inconsistencies.

imported>Sekuiya: /* Assassin's Creed: Rebellion Bio */ new section

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	:I have no idea where Jasca got the January 2, 1492 date from - I certainly did not spot it anywhere in the novel/film. Btw, Sol, did you see the message I added on Maxattac's talkpage? You guys were discussing timeline issues there as well. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, January 5, 2017 (UTC)		:I have no idea where Jasca got the January 2, 1492 date from - I certainly did not spot it anywhere in the novel/film. Btw, Sol, did you see the message I added on Maxattac's talkpage? You guys were discussing timeline issues there as well. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, January 5, 2017 (UTC)
	::Wikipedia says January 2nd.--'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:12, January 5, 2017 (UTC)		::Wikipedia says January 2nd.--'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:12, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

			== Assassin's Creed: Rebellion Bio ==

			:Born to two members of the Brotherhood of Assassins, Aguilar refused at first to embrace his parents' Creed, preferring to live his life free of commitment. Unfortunately, tragedy struck when both his parents were captured and burned at the stake by the Templar-led Inquisition. Full of regret, he then officially joined the Brotherhood to avenge them, but also to honor their Creed that he now fully understood.

			:During his training as an Assassin, Aguilar showed great talents for combat and acrobatic feats, quickly becoming one of the finest members of the Brotherhood.

			:Aguilar was an essential driving force in the expansion of the Assassins in Spain and in their success against the Templars, and eventually became the new Mentor of the Spanish Brotherhood.

			--[[User:Sekuiya\|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#619DD9;">Sekuiya</span>]][[User talk:Sekuiya\|<sup><span style="color:#FF7B1B;">talk</span></sup>]] 12:19, July 8, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Jasca Ducato: /* Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 */

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	:I have no idea where Jasca got the January 2, 1492 date from - I certainly did not spot it anywhere in the novel/film. Btw, Sol, did you see the message I added on Maxattac's talkpage? You guys were discussing timeline issues there as well. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, January 5, 2017 (UTC)		:I have no idea where Jasca got the January 2, 1492 date from - I certainly did not spot it anywhere in the novel/film. Btw, Sol, did you see the message I added on Maxattac's talkpage? You guys were discussing timeline issues there as well. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, January 5, 2017 (UTC)
			::Wikipedia says January 2nd.--'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:12, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 */

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	Is there a source that provides this as the specific date for when Muḥammad XII surrendered Granada to the Spanish? I know that ''Discovery'' certainly doesn't mention it (I've replayed the game like 30x or more). I know that it is the real-life date of Granada's capitulation, however, over at Wikipedia it also says that the ceasefire and provisional treaty was signed on November 25, 1491 and seems to imply that the surrender on January 2 was actually the formal surrender. Since I only have Wikipedia as a source xD, I'm kind of feeling in the dark. I'm not sure if say the Spanish happened to attack again on January 2 after waiting months through a ceasefire, then Muḥammad immediately finalized the surrender. ''Discovery'' also mentions an "abdication ceremony" later to the surrender, and I have thought that it's possible this was what occurred in January 2. Ahhhh all these timeline complications. >_< [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:34, January 5, 2017 (UTC)		Is there a source that provides this as the specific date for when Muḥammad XII surrendered Granada to the Spanish? I know that ''Discovery'' certainly doesn't mention it (I've replayed the game like 30x or more). I know that it is the real-life date of Granada's capitulation, however, over at Wikipedia it also says that the ceasefire and provisional treaty was signed on November 25, 1491 and seems to imply that the surrender on January 2 was actually the formal surrender. Since I only have Wikipedia as a source xD, I'm kind of feeling in the dark. I'm not sure if say the Spanish happened to attack again on January 2 after waiting months through a ceasefire, then Muḥammad immediately finalized the surrender. ''Discovery'' also mentions an "abdication ceremony" later to the surrender, and I have thought that it's possible this was what occurred in January 2. Ahhhh all these timeline complications. >_< [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:34, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

			:I have no idea where Jasca got the January 2, 1492 date from - I certainly did not spot it anywhere in the novel/film. Btw, Sol, did you see the message I added on Maxattac's talkpage? You guys were discussing timeline issues there as well. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 17:37, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 */

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	== Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 ==		== Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 ==

	Is there a source that provides this as the specific date for when Muḥammad XII surrendered Granada to the Spanish? I know that ''Discovery'' certainly doesn't mention it (I've replayed the game like 30x or more). I know that it is the real-life date of Granada's capitulation, however, over at Wikipedia it also says that the ceasefire and provisional treaty was signed on ~~August~~ 25, 1491 and seems to imply that the surrender on January 2 was actually the formal surrender. Since I only have Wikipedia as a source xD, I'm kind of feeling in the dark. I'm not sure if say the Spanish happened to attack again on January 2 after waiting months through a ceasefire, then Muḥammad immediately finalized the surrender. ''Discovery'' also mentions an "abdication ceremony" later to the surrender, and I have thought that it's possible this was what occurred in January 2. Ahhhh all these timeline complications. >_< [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:34, January 5, 2017 (UTC)		Is there a source that provides this as the specific date for when Muḥammad XII surrendered Granada to the Spanish? I know that ''Discovery'' certainly doesn't mention it (I've replayed the game like 30x or more). I know that it is the real-life date of Granada's capitulation, however, over at Wikipedia it also says that the ceasefire and provisional treaty was signed on November 25, 1491 and seems to imply that the surrender on January 2 was actually the formal surrender. Since I only have Wikipedia as a source xD, I'm kind of feeling in the dark. I'm not sure if say the Spanish happened to attack again on January 2 after waiting months through a ceasefire, then Muḥammad immediately finalized the surrender. ''Discovery'' also mentions an "abdication ceremony" later to the surrender, and I have thought that it's possible this was what occurred in January 2. Ahhhh all these timeline complications. >_< [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:34, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Sol Pacificus: /* Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 */ new section

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	::There's a scene in the movie where Sophia and Cal are looking at Cal's ancestry and when they get to Aguilar, you can briefly see "1455-1526" written underneath a picture/drawing of him. It's very blink-and-you'll-miss-it (I certainly did when I first watched the movie), but it's there. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 16:09, January 3, 2017 (UTC)		::There's a scene in the movie where Sophia and Cal are looking at Cal's ancestry and when they get to Aguilar, you can briefly see "1455-1526" written underneath a picture/drawing of him. It's very blink-and-you'll-miss-it (I certainly did when I first watched the movie), but it's there. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 16:09, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

			== Surrender of Granada on January 2, 1492 ==

			Is there a source that provides this as the specific date for when Muḥammad XII surrendered Granada to the Spanish? I know that ''Discovery'' certainly doesn't mention it (I've replayed the game like 30x or more). I know that it is the real-life date of Granada's capitulation, however, over at Wikipedia it also says that the ceasefire and provisional treaty was signed on August 25, 1491 and seems to imply that the surrender on January 2 was actually the formal surrender. Since I only have Wikipedia as a source xD, I'm kind of feeling in the dark. I'm not sure if say the Spanish happened to attack again on January 2 after waiting months through a ceasefire, then Muḥammad immediately finalized the surrender. ''Discovery'' also mentions an "abdication ceremony" later to the surrender, and I have thought that it's possible this was what occurred in January 2. Ahhhh all these timeline complications. >_< [[User:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#990000;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:17px">'''Sol Pacificus'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sol Pacificus\|<span style="color:#D4AF37;font-family:Californian FB;font-size:11px">(Cyfiero)</span>]]</sup> 17:34, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

imported>Crookandcharlatan: /* Death Year */

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	:According to Crookandcharlatan, it was shown somewhere in the movie. I haven't seen it myself yet, so I'm taking his word for it. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 10:55, January 3, 2017 (UTC)		:According to Crookandcharlatan, it was shown somewhere in the movie. I haven't seen it myself yet, so I'm taking his word for it. [[User:The Wikia Editor\|The Wikia Editor]] ([[User talk:The Wikia Editor\|talk]]) 10:55, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

			::There's a scene in the movie where Sophia and Cal are looking at Cal's ancestry and when they get to Aguilar, you can briefly see "1455-1526" written underneath a picture/drawing of him. It's very blink-and-you'll-miss-it (I certainly did when I first watched the movie), but it's there. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 16:09, January 3, 2017 (UTC)