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imported>Sol Pacificus: I didn't like how using Ibid. omits the titles of subsequent cited chapters. I'm using Chicago Style for this page & their latest ed. also says not to use Ibid. anymore but a shortened reference. I'm wondering if this helps?

2023-04-18T03:54:10Z

I didn't like how using Ibid. omits the titles of subsequent cited chapters. I'm using Chicago Style for this page & their latest ed. also says not to use Ibid. anymore but a shortened reference. I'm wondering if this helps?

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''[[The Art of War]]'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to The Art of War~~. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction~~ by Jan Willem Honig. ~~Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012~~.</ref>		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''[[The Art of War]]'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu, Introduction to ''The Art of War'' by Jan Willem Honig, pp. xv–xxiii.</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

imported>Sol Pacificus: I just realized that most of this information makes more sense on a page about The Art of War, not a biography about the author. @Darman, I feel a bit awkward about using Ibid. when the initial citation specifically refers to a different chapter. Also, there were 2 different Art of War books being used before (in addition to the Chinese one).

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I just realized that most of this information makes more sense on a page about The Art of War, not a biography about the author. @Darman, I feel a bit awkward about using Ibid. when the initial citation specifically refers to a different chapter. Also, there were 2 different Art of War books being used before (in addition to the Chinese one).

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''~~{{Wiki\|~~The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012~~">{{Wiki\|Ibid.}}, pp. xv–xxiii.</ref>~~		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''[[The Art of War]]'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to The Art of War. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>

	''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
	~~<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu~~">Sun Wu. ~~"Weak Points and Strong". In ''~~The Art of War''. ~~''Chinese Text Project''~~. ~~Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>~~

	"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains.~~" {{c\|~~Translated by ~~{{wiki\|~~Lionel Giles~~}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Ibid~~.~~, pp~~. ~~124–135~~.~~</ref>~~

	~~"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless'''~~, ~~and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry~~, ~~nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}~~
	~~</blockquote>~~
	In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor [[Éléna]] and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	*''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' {{c\|Mo}}		*''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' {{Mo}}

	==References==		==References==

imported>Darman36: Are we allowed to use Ibid to shorten already-cited-above refs like WP? Just a passing thought, can undo

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Are we allowed to use Ibid to shorten already-cited-above refs like WP? Just a passing thought, can undo

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">~~Sun Wu~~. ~~Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition~~, pp. xv–xxiii~~. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012~~.</ref>		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">{{Wiki\|Ibid.}}, pp. xv–xxiii.</ref>

	''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):		''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
	<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>		<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>

	"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">~~Sun Wu~~. ~~"Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. Illustrated Edition~~, pp. 124–135~~. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. New York, NY: Fall River Press, 2014~~.</ref>		"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Ibid., pp. 124–135.</ref>

	"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}		"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>
	In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>		In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor [[Éléna]] and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

imported>Sol Pacificus at 02:21, 17 April 2023

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	"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. Illustrated Edition, pp. 124–135. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. New York, NY: Fall River Press, 2014.</ref>		"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. Illustrated Edition, pp. 124–135. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. New York, NY: Fall River Press, 2014.</ref>

	"Therefore the ~~peak~~ of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}		"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>
	In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>		In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

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	"Therefore the peak of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}		"Therefore the peak of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>
	In 756, as ~~[[Li E]],~~ the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>		In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>

	''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: ~~[[wikt:無形\|~~無形者]] (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term 無形 (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):		''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
	<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>		<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>

imported>Sol Pacificus: Ah, very important info for the fans. I included my own translation in addition to Lionel Giles' b/c I think Giles' translation may not be as clear about the significance of the line for the Hidden Ones in this context. A translation of the full line spoken by Li E himself should also have to be a bit different. / I'm not sure if it counts as only an indirect mention if the manhua cites The Art of War in the margins. / When introducing an individual, try to make the lede more concise.

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Ah, very important info for the fans. I included my own translation in addition to Lionel Giles' b/c I think Giles' translation may not be as clear about the significance of the line for the Hidden Ones in this context. A translation of the full line spoken by Li E himself should also have to be a bit different. / I'm not sure if it counts as only an indirect mention if the manhua cites The Art of War in the margins. / When introducing an individual, try to make the lede more concise.

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	'''Sun ~~Tzu~~''' (孫子; 544 BCE – 496 BCE) was a [[China\|Chinese]] ~~general, statesman, philosopher, and author~~ who lived during ~~the 6th century BCE, between~~ the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period~~\|Spring and Autumn~~}} ~~and~~ {{~~Wiki~~\|~~Warring States period~~}} ~~of ancient China~~. ~~He was best~~ credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), ~~a treatise detailing various sets~~ of ~~skills related to warfare applying to military strategy~~ and ~~tactics~~. Sun ~~Tzu's work had been largely acclaimed, with the~~ ''The Art of War'' ~~having a lasting influence on both Western and Asian influence well into the [[Modern times\|Modern period]]~~.		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>

	~~In 756,~~ the [[Hidden Ones~~\|Hidden One~~]] [[~~Li E~~]] ~~quoted~~ Sun Tzu's ''The Art of War'' ~~during~~ his escape from the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]] ~~from his captors. In particular~~, he ~~quoted chapter six of the treatise which touched on "Strengths and Weaknesses" (虛實) as he performed~~ a [[Leap of Faith]] and ~~jumped~~ into the river below.<ref name="~~ACD~~">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>		''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: [[wikt:無形\|無形者]] (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term 無形 (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
			<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>

			"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. Illustrated Edition, pp. 124–135. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. New York, NY: Fall River Press, 2014.</ref>

			"Therefore the peak of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}
			</blockquote>
			In 756, as [[Li E]], the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''~~{{Wiki\|~~The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012~~">{{Wiki\|Ibid.}}, pp. xv–xxiii.</ref>~~		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''[[The Art of War]]'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to The Art of War. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>

	''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
	~~<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu~~">Sun Wu. ~~"Weak Points and Strong". In ''~~The Art of War''. ~~''Chinese Text Project''~~. ~~Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>~~

	"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains.~~" {{c\|~~Translated by ~~{{wiki\|~~Lionel Giles~~}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Ibid~~.~~, pp~~. ~~124–135~~.~~</ref>~~

	~~"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless'''~~, ~~and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry~~, ~~nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}~~
	~~</blockquote>~~
	In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor [[Éléna]] and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">~~Sun Wu~~. ~~Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition~~, pp. xv–xxiii~~. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012~~.</ref>		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">{{Wiki\|Ibid.}}, pp. xv–xxiii.</ref>

	''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):		''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
	<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>		<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>

	"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">~~Sun Wu~~. ~~"Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. Illustrated Edition~~, pp. 124–135~~. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. New York, NY: Fall River Press, 2014~~.</ref>		"In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to '''conceal them'''; '''conceal your dispositions''', and you will be safe from the prying of the subtlest spies, from the machinations of the wisest brains." {{c\|Translated by {{wiki\|Lionel Giles}}, 1910}}<ref name="Fresh River Press">Ibid., pp. 124–135.</ref>

	"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}		"Therefore the pinnacle of troop formation is to be '''formless'''; be '''formless''', and even the most immersed of spies would not be able to pry, nor would the wisest be able to plot." {{c\|Original wiki translation}}
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>
	In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor, [[Éléna]], and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>		In 756, as the last surviving [[Hidden Ones of the Great Desert\|Hidden One of the Great Desert]], [[Li E]], made his escape from the [[Golden Turtles]]' captivity within the [[Mengshan Giant Buddha]], he composed himself for a [[Leap of Faith]] by reciting this line, having made peace with the loss of his mentor [[Éléna]] and his other comrades. Before the guards pursuing him could reach him, he dived from the Buddha's eye into the river below with the affirmation that he was a "[[Hidden Ones of the Great Tang\|Hidden One of the Great Tang]].<ref name="Dynasty 33">''[[Assassin's Creed: Dynasty]]'' – [[The Hidden Ones (Part 1)]]</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>		'''Sun Wu''' (孫武; 544 BCE – 496 BCE),<ref name="Timeline">Sun Wu. "The Life and Times of Sun Tzŭ". In ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. ix–xii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref> commonly known as '''Sun Tzu''' (孫子, i.e. 'Master Sun'), was a [[China\|Chinese]] military strategist who lived during the {{Wiki\|Spring and Autumn period}}. Traditionally believed to have served King {{wiki\|Helü of Wu}} (r. 514 BCE–496 BCE), he is credited as the author of ''{{Wiki\|The Art of War}}'' (孫子兵法), one of the most influential treatises on the fundamental principles, stratagems, and logistics of war.<ref name="Honig 2012">Sun Wu. Introduction to ''The Art of War''. Barnes & Noble Signature Edition, pp. xv–xxiii. Translated by Lionel Giles. Introduction by Jan Willem Honig. Supplementary material by Ilmari Käihkö. New York, NY: Sterling Publishing, 2012.</ref>

	''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: ~~[[wikt:無形\|~~無形者]] (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term 無形 (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):		''The Art of War'' was significant for not only conventional military forces but also for the covert action philosophy of the [[Hidden Ones]]. Its influence can be witnessed in the way the Chinese Hidden Ones translated the name of their organization: 無形者 (Mandarin: ''Wúxíngzhě'', Cantonese: ''Mòuyìng-tsé''), literally meaning 'Those who are Formless'. The term [[wikt:無形\|無形]] (Mandarin: ''wúxíng'', Cantonese: ''mòuyìng'') or ''Formless'' appears in the sixth chapter, "Weak Points and Strong" (虛實):
	<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>		<blockquote>「故形兵之極，至于'''無形'''；'''無形'''，則深間不能窺，智者不能謀。亅 {{c\|Chapter VI, line 6}}<ref name="Sun Tzu">Sun Wu. "Weak Points and Strong". In ''The Art of War''. ''Chinese Text Project''. Accessed 16 April 2023. https://ctext.org/art-of-war/weak-points-and-strong</ref>