Pactyas (Lydian) - Revision history

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	==Behind the scenes==		==Behind the scenes==
	Pactyas only receives a brief mention in ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' (2018) via the Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos, for which [[Historical Locations\|historical facts]] can be read in the world map. The central line in the flavour text, "''Pactyas, a Persian general who defected to Cyrus the Great, took refuge here''", does not properly specify that he was hiding from the Persians after rebelling against them; it can suggest he was hunted for his defection to the Persians instead. Clarity regarding this is found by consulting the primary source, [[Herodotos]]' ''{{wiki\|Histories}}''.		Pactyas only receives a brief mention in ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' (2018) via the Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos, for which [[Historical Locations\|historical facts]] can be read in the world map. The central line in the flavour text, "''Pactyas, a Persian general who defected to Cyrus the Great, took refuge here''", does not properly specify that he was hiding from the Persians after rebelling against them; it can suggest he was hunted for his defection to the Persians instead. Clarity regarding this is found by consulting the primary source, [[Herodotos]]' ''{{wiki\|Histories (Herodotus)\|Histories}}''.

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	'''Pactyas''' was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n<ref name="Herodotus">Herodotus. ''Histories'', "Book 1 Clio", lines 153–161. Translated by G. C. Macaulay. (London: Macmillan and Co, 1890).</ref> general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Achaemenid]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.<ref name="Historical Locations">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – [[Historical Locations]]</ref> He was subsequently forced to take refuge at the [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|Temple of Athena Poliouchos]] on the [[Greece\|Greek]] island of [[Chios]]<ref name="Historical Locations" /> after a failed revolt against Cyrus.<ref name="Herodotus" /> Following this, he was surrendered by the Chians to the Persians,<ref name="Herodotus" /> but for this deed, they no longer dared to offer sacrifices at the temple.<ref name="Historical Locations" />		'''Pactyas''' was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n<ref name="Herodotus">Herodotus. ''Histories'', "Book 1 Clio", lines 153–161. Translated by G. C. Macaulay. (London: Macmillan and Co, 1890).</ref> general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Achaemenid]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.<ref name="Historical Locations">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – [[Historical Locations]]</ref> He was subsequently forced to take refuge at the [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|Temple of Athena Poliouchos]] on the [[Greece\|Greek]] island of [[Chios]]<ref name="Historical Locations" /> after a failed revolt against Cyrus.<ref name="Herodotus" /> Following this, he was surrendered by the Chians to the Persians,<ref name="Herodotus" /> but for this deed, they no longer dared to offer sacrifices at the temple.<ref name="Historical Locations" />

imported>Sol Pacificus: Sol Pacificus moved page Pactyas to Pactyas (Lydian) without leaving a redirect: Not the primary topic for the name Pactyas. (I went through the trouble of revising the article partly b/c Odyssey doesn't actually say he is Lydian. But it'd be improper to call him a Persian general when he revolted against them).

2023-01-29T02:13:24Z

Sol Pacificus moved page Pactyas to Pactyas (Lydian) without leaving a redirect: Not the primary topic for the name Pactyas. (I went through the trouble of revising the article partly b/c Odyssey doesn't actually say he is Lydian. But it'd be improper to call him a Persian general when he revolted against them).

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imported>Sol Pacificus: I'm not sure was it necessary to explain why I had to consult Herodotus's Histories directly for such a trivial character... But this also shows why we sometimes have to rely on external sources. The article already did this, presumably by reading Wikipedia without citing it. To properly explain this character, it was necessary to give a little more detail about why he was hiding, but we also have to be honest when we take from non-AC sources.

2023-01-29T02:11:30Z

I'm not sure was it necessary to explain why I had to consult Herodotus's Histories directly for such a trivial character... But this also shows why we sometimes have to rely on external sources. The article already did this, presumably by reading Wikipedia without citing it. To properly explain this character, it was necessary to give a little more detail about why he was hiding, but we also have to be honest when we take from non-AC sources.

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	{{Youmay\|the Lydian general\|the ~~Order of the Ancients~~ [[Pactyas (Ancients)\|member]]}}		{{Youmay\|the Lydian general\|the [[Pactyas (Ancients)\|Order of the Ancients member]]}}
	'''Pactyas'''~~, alternatively '''Pactyes''',~~ was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|~~Persian~~]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.		'''Pactyas''' was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n<ref name="Herodotus">Herodotus. ''Histories'', "Book 1 Clio", lines 153–161. Translated by G. C. Macaulay. (London: Macmillan and Co, 1890).</ref> general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Achaemenid]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.<ref name="Historical Locations">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – [[Historical Locations]]</ref> He was subsequently forced to take refuge at the [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|Temple of Athena Poliouchos]] on the [[Greece\|Greek]] island of [[Chios]]<ref name="Historical Locations" /> after a failed revolt against Cyrus.<ref name="Herodotus" /> Following this, he was surrendered by the Chians to the Persians,<ref name="Herodotus" /> but for this deed, they no longer dared to offer sacrifices at the temple.<ref name="Historical Locations" />

	Pactyas ~~later revolted against Cyrus and fled to~~ [[~~Greece~~]]~~. There, Pactyas took refuge in a [[~~Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos~~\|sanctuary]] of~~ [[~~Athena~~]] on the ~~Greek island of~~ [[~~Chios~~]] ~~before he was eventually captured.<ref>~~''~~[[Assassin~~'~~s Creed: Odyssey]]~~''~~</ref>~~		==Behind the scenes==
			Pactyas only receives a brief mention in ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' (2018) via the Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos, for which [[Historical Locations\|historical facts]] can be read in the world map. The central line in the flavour text, "''Pactyas, a Persian general who defected to Cyrus the Great, took refuge here''", does not properly specify that he was hiding from the Persians after rebelling against them; it can suggest he was hunted for his defection to the Persians instead. Clarity regarding this is found by consulting the primary source, [[Herodotos]]' ''{{wiki\|Histories}}''.

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	'''Pactyas''', alternatively '''Pactyes''', was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Persian]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.		'''Pactyas''', alternatively '''Pactyes''', was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Persian]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.

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	'''Pactyas''', alternatively '''Pactyes''', was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Persian]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.		'''Pactyas''', alternatively '''Pactyes''', was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Persian]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.

	Pactyas later revolted against Cyrus and ~~later~~ fled to [[Greece]]. There, Pactyas took refuge in a [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|sanctuary]] of [[Athena]] on the Greek island of [[Chios]] before he was eventually captured.<ref>''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]''</ref>		Pactyas later revolted against Cyrus and fled to [[Greece]]. There, Pactyas took refuge in a [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|sanctuary]] of [[Athena]] on the Greek island of [[Chios]] before he was eventually captured.<ref>''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]''</ref>

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	Pactyas later revolted against Cyrus and later fled to [[Greece]]. There, Pactyas took refuge in a [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|sanctuary]] of [[Athena]] on the Greek island of [[Chios]] before he was eventually captured.<ref>''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]''</ref>		Pactyas later revolted against Cyrus and later fled to [[Greece]]. There, Pactyas took refuge in a [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|sanctuary]] of [[Athena]] on the Greek island of [[Chios]] before he was eventually captured.<ref>''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]''</ref>

	==~~Appearance~~==		==Appearances==
	*''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' {{Mo}}		*''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' {{Mo}}

	==~~Reference~~==		==References==
	{{Reflist}}		{{Reflist}}
	[[Category:Individuals]]		[[Category:Individuals]]
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	[[Category:Rebels]]		[[Category:Rebels]]

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	'''Pactyas''' was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n<ref name="Herodotus">Herodotus. ''Histories'', "Book 1 Clio", lines 153–161. Translated by G. C. Macaulay. (London: Macmillan and Co, 1890).</ref> general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Achaemenid]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.<ref name="Historical Locations">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – [[Historical Locations]]</ref> He was subsequently forced to take refuge at the [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|Temple of Athena Poliouchos]] on the [[Greece\|Greek]] island of [[Chios]]<ref name="Historical Locations" /> after a failed revolt against Cyrus.<ref name="Herodotus" /> Following this, he was surrendered by the Chians to the Persians,<ref name="Herodotus" /> but for this deed, they no longer dared to offer sacrifices at the temple.<ref name="Historical Locations" />		'''Pactyas''' was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n<ref name="Herodotus">Herodotus. ''Histories'', "Book 1 Clio", lines 153–161. Translated by G. C. Macaulay. (London: Macmillan and Co, 1890).</ref> general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Achaemenid]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.<ref name="Historical Locations">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – [[Historical Locations]]</ref> He was subsequently forced to take refuge at the [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|Temple of Athena Poliouchos]] on the [[Greece\|Greek]] island of [[Chios]]<ref name="Historical Locations" /> after a failed revolt against Cyrus.<ref name="Herodotus" /> Following this, he was surrendered by the Chians to the Persians,<ref name="Herodotus" /> but for this deed, they no longer dared to offer sacrifices at the temple.<ref name="Historical Locations" />

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	'''Pactyas'''~~, alternatively '''Pactyes''',~~ was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|~~Persian~~]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.		'''Pactyas''' was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n<ref name="Herodotus">Herodotus. ''Histories'', "Book 1 Clio", lines 153–161. Translated by G. C. Macaulay. (London: Macmillan and Co, 1890).</ref> general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Achaemenid]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.<ref name="Historical Locations">''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' – [[Historical Locations]]</ref> He was subsequently forced to take refuge at the [[Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos\|Temple of Athena Poliouchos]] on the [[Greece\|Greek]] island of [[Chios]]<ref name="Historical Locations" /> after a failed revolt against Cyrus.<ref name="Herodotus" /> Following this, he was surrendered by the Chians to the Persians,<ref name="Herodotus" /> but for this deed, they no longer dared to offer sacrifices at the temple.<ref name="Historical Locations" />

	Pactyas ~~later revolted against Cyrus and fled to~~ [[~~Greece~~]]~~. There, Pactyas took refuge in a [[~~Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos~~\|sanctuary]] of~~ [[~~Athena~~]] on the ~~Greek island of~~ [[~~Chios~~]] ~~before he was eventually captured.<ref>~~''~~[[Assassin~~'~~s Creed: Odyssey]]~~''~~</ref>~~		==Behind the scenes==
			Pactyas only receives a brief mention in ''[[Assassin's Creed: Odyssey]]'' (2018) via the Ruined Temple of Athena Poliouchos, for which [[Historical Locations\|historical facts]] can be read in the world map. The central line in the flavour text, "''Pactyas, a Persian general who defected to Cyrus the Great, took refuge here''", does not properly specify that he was hiding from the Persians after rebelling against them; it can suggest he was hunted for his defection to the Persians instead. Clarity regarding this is found by consulting the primary source, [[Herodotos]]' ''{{wiki\|Histories}}''.

	==Appearances==		==Appearances==

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	{{Youmay\|the Lydian general\|the Order of the Ancients [[Pactyas (Ancients)\|member]]}}		{{Youmay\|the Lydian general\|the Order of the Ancients [[Pactyas (Ancients)\|member]]}}
	'''Pactyas''', alternatively '''Pactyes''', was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Persian]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.		'''Pactyas''', alternatively '''Pactyes''', was a {{Wiki\|Lydia}}n general who defected to the [[Achaemenid Empire\|Persian]] emperor {{Wiki\|Cyrus the Great}}.