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	*''[[Assassin's Creed: Forsaken]]'' {{Imo}}		*''[[Assassin's Creed: Forsaken]]'' {{Imo}}
	*''[[Assassin's Creed: Rebellion]]'' {{Mdat}}		*''[[Assassin's Creed: Rebellion]]'' {{Mdat}}
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imported>Sol Pacificus: This is okay as a correction, but I think it might be more helpful to articulate a little more Haytham's awareness or intent about it.

2023-06-10T23:59:11Z

This is okay as a correction, but I think it might be more helpful to articulate a little more Haytham's awareness or intent about it.

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	{{Dialogue\|Juno\|Ah, long have we waited for you to return. You have done as we asked. You have succeeded.\|Ratonhnhaké:ton\|No. I have failed! My people are gone! Chased out by those who I thought would protect them!\|Juno and Ratonhnhaké:ton, 1783\|Assassin's Creed III\|Chasing Lee}}		{{Dialogue\|Juno\|Ah, long have we waited for you to return. You have done as we asked. You have succeeded.\|Ratonhnhaké:ton\|No. I have failed! My people are gone! Chased out by those who I thought would protect them!\|Juno and Ratonhnhaké:ton, 1783\|Assassin's Creed III\|Chasing Lee}}
	Because Ratonhnhaké:ton's father, [[Haytham Kenway]], was the [[Grand Master of the Templar Order\|Grand Master Templar]] of the Colonial Rite, a confrontation between the two was inevitable. Yet as late as 1778, Haytham had not known about the torching of Kanatahséton in 1760 nor the fate of his former lover, Kaniehtí:io, having instructed his subordinates to cease the search for the Grand Temple.<ref name="The Foam and the Flames">''[[Assassin's Creed III]]'' – [[The Foam and the Flames]]</ref> In 1779, during a brief partnership with his son, he managed to implicate Commander-in-Chief [[George Washington]] of the [[Continental Army]] in the attack just as Washington had issued the orders for a [[Sullivan Expedition\|genocidal campaign]] against the Kanien'kehá:ka for their alliance with the [[United Kingdom\|British]]. Among the targets was Kanatahséton, and Washington admitted to having conducted a {{Wiki\|Forbes Expedition\|similar operation}} during the Seven Years' War. With no time to argue the details, Ratonhnhaké:ton cut ties with both Washington and Haytham and rushed to defend Kanatahséton.<ref name="Broken Trust" />		Because Ratonhnhaké:ton's father, [[Haytham Kenway]], was the [[Grand Master of the Templar Order\|Grand Master Templar]] of the Colonial Rite, a confrontation between the two was inevitable. During a brief partnership with his son, he managed to implicate Commander-in-Chief [[George Washington]] of the [[Continental Army]] in the attack just as Washington had issued the orders for a [[Sullivan Expedition\|genocidal campaign]] against the Kanien'kehá:ka for their alliance with the [[United Kingdom\|British]]. Among the targets was Kanatahséton, and Washington admitted to having conducted a {{Wiki\|Forbes Expedition\|similar operation}} during the Seven Years' War. With no time to argue the details, Ratonhnhaké:ton cut ties with both Washington and Haytham and rushed to defend Kanatahséton.<ref name="Broken Trust" />

	[[File:ACIII-KanatahsetonM 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|Kanatahséton after its abandonment.]]		[[File:ACIII-KanatahsetonM 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|Kanatahséton after its abandonment.]]

imported>Sol Pacificus: I will double-check th Forsaken novel when I get home, but I am reverting promptly now before I have time to revise it closely because I need to emphasize that the wording regarding whether or not Washington burned Connor's village in 1760 has to be ambiguous regarding the perpetrator, describing only the fact of how Washington was implicated. See the BTS below and in Washington's article.

2023-06-10T23:53:17Z

I will double-check th Forsaken novel when I get home, but I am reverting promptly now before I have time to revise it closely because I need to emphasize that the wording regarding whether or not Washington burned Connor's village in 1760 *has* to be ambiguous regarding the perpetrator, describing only the fact of how Washington was implicated. See the BTS below and in Washington's article.

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	{{Dialogue\|Juno\|Ah, long have we waited for you to return. You have done as we asked. You have succeeded.\|Ratonhnhaké:ton\|No. I have failed! My people are gone! Chased out by those who I thought would protect them!\|Juno and Ratonhnhaké:ton, 1783\|Assassin's Creed III\|Chasing Lee}}		{{Dialogue\|Juno\|Ah, long have we waited for you to return. You have done as we asked. You have succeeded.\|Ratonhnhaké:ton\|No. I have failed! My people are gone! Chased out by those who I thought would protect them!\|Juno and Ratonhnhaké:ton, 1783\|Assassin's Creed III\|Chasing Lee}}
	Because Ratonhnhaké:ton's father, [[Haytham Kenway]], was the [[Grand Master of the Templar Order\|Grand Master Templar]] of the Colonial Rite, a confrontation between the two was inevitable. In ~~1778~~, during a brief partnership with his son, ~~Haytham~~ managed to implicate Commander-in-Chief [[George Washington]] of the [[Continental Army]] in the attack ~~on Kanatahséton in 1760~~ just as Washington had issued the orders for a [[Sullivan Expedition\|genocidal campaign]] against the Kanien'kehá:ka for their alliance with the [[United Kingdom\|British]]. ~~Kanatahséton was again among~~ the targets, and Washington admitted to having conducted a {{Wiki\|Forbes Expedition\|similar operation}} during the Seven Years' War. With no time to argue the details, Ratonhnhaké:ton cut ties with both Washington and Haytham and rushed to defend Kanatahséton.<ref name="Broken Trust" />		Because Ratonhnhaké:ton's father, [[Haytham Kenway]], was the [[Grand Master of the Templar Order\|Grand Master Templar]] of the Colonial Rite, a confrontation between the two was inevitable. Yet as late as 1778, Haytham had not known about the torching of Kanatahséton in 1760 nor the fate of his former lover, Kaniehtí:io, having instructed his subordinates to cease the search for the Grand Temple.<ref name="The Foam and the Flames">''[[Assassin's Creed III]]'' – [[The Foam and the Flames]]</ref> In 1779, during a brief partnership with his son, he managed to implicate Commander-in-Chief [[George Washington]] of the [[Continental Army]] in the attack just as Washington had issued the orders for a [[Sullivan Expedition\|genocidal campaign]] against the Kanien'kehá:ka for their alliance with the [[United Kingdom\|British]]. Among the targets was Kanatahséton, and Washington admitted to having conducted a {{Wiki\|Forbes Expedition\|similar operation}} during the Seven Years' War. With no time to argue the details, Ratonhnhaké:ton cut ties with both Washington and Haytham and rushed to defend Kanatahséton.<ref name="Broken Trust" />

	[[File:ACIII-KanatahsetonM 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|Kanatahséton after its abandonment.]]		[[File:ACIII-KanatahsetonM 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|Kanatahséton after its abandonment.]]

imported>N217062: This isn't accurate. The Forsaken novel established that Haytham was already aware of this information since January 1774. Also, Haytham and Connor's alliance occurred in 1778, not 1779.

2023-06-10T22:12:38Z

This isn't accurate. The Forsaken novel established that Haytham was already aware of this information since January 1774. Also, Haytham and Connor's alliance occurred in 1778, not 1779.

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	{{Dialogue\|Juno\|Ah, long have we waited for you to return. You have done as we asked. You have succeeded.\|Ratonhnhaké:ton\|No. I have failed! My people are gone! Chased out by those who I thought would protect them!\|Juno and Ratonhnhaké:ton, 1783\|Assassin's Creed III\|Chasing Lee}}		{{Dialogue\|Juno\|Ah, long have we waited for you to return. You have done as we asked. You have succeeded.\|Ratonhnhaké:ton\|No. I have failed! My people are gone! Chased out by those who I thought would protect them!\|Juno and Ratonhnhaké:ton, 1783\|Assassin's Creed III\|Chasing Lee}}
	Because Ratonhnhaké:ton's father, [[Haytham Kenway]], was the [[Grand Master of the Templar Order\|Grand Master Templar]] of the Colonial Rite, a confrontation between the two was inevitable. ~~Yet as late as~~ 1778, Haytham had not known about the torching of Kanatahséton in 1760 nor the fate of his former lover, Kaniehtí:io, having instructed his subordinates to cease the search for the Grand Temple.<ref name="The Foam and the Flames">''[[Assassin's Creed III]]'' – [[The Foam and the Flames]]</ref> In 1779, during a brief partnership with his son, he managed to implicate Commander-in-Chief [[George Washington]] of the [[Continental Army]] in the attack just as Washington had issued the orders for a [[Sullivan Expedition\|genocidal campaign]] against the Kanien'kehá:ka for their alliance with the [[United Kingdom\|British]]. ~~Among~~ the targets ~~was Kanatahséton~~, and Washington admitted to having conducted a {{Wiki\|Forbes Expedition\|similar operation}} during the Seven Years' War. With no time to argue the details, Ratonhnhaké:ton cut ties with both Washington and Haytham and rushed to defend Kanatahséton.<ref name="Broken Trust" />		Because Ratonhnhaké:ton's father, [[Haytham Kenway]], was the [[Grand Master of the Templar Order\|Grand Master Templar]] of the Colonial Rite, a confrontation between the two was inevitable. In 1778, during a brief partnership with his son, Haytham managed to implicate Commander-in-Chief [[George Washington]] of the [[Continental Army]] in the attack on Kanatahséton in 1760 just as Washington had issued the orders for a [[Sullivan Expedition\|genocidal campaign]] against the Kanien'kehá:ka for their alliance with the [[United Kingdom\|British]]. Kanatahséton was again among the targets, and Washington admitted to having conducted a {{Wiki\|Forbes Expedition\|similar operation}} during the Seven Years' War. With no time to argue the details, Ratonhnhaké:ton cut ties with both Washington and Haytham and rushed to defend Kanatahséton.<ref name="Broken Trust" />

	[[File:ACIII-KanatahsetonM 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|Kanatahséton after its abandonment.]]		[[File:ACIII-KanatahsetonM 2.png\|thumb\|250px\|Kanatahséton after its abandonment.]]

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	*Haytham discounts that Templars were responsible because he had commanded his subordinates to relinquish their pursuit of the Grand Temple. His own testimony does not disprove the possibility that these subordinates defied his order or even destroyed a village without him knowing. "Hide and Seek" can be taken as an eyewitness account by Connor that [[Charles Lee]], [[William Johnson]], [[Thomas Hickey]], and [[Benjamin Church]] had threatened his life for the village's whereabouts and had intended to threaten the village in turn for information about the Grand Temple—moments before it is set on fire.		*Haytham discounts that Templars were responsible because he had commanded his subordinates to relinquish their pursuit of the Grand Temple. His own testimony does not disprove the possibility that these subordinates defied his order or even destroyed a village without him knowing. "Hide and Seek" can be taken as an eyewitness account by Connor that [[Charles Lee]], [[William Johnson]], [[Thomas Hickey]], and [[Benjamin Church]] had threatened his life for the village's whereabouts and had intended to threaten the village in turn for information about the Grand Temple—moments before it is set on fire.
	*The confession that Haytham extracts from Washington is indirect. He leads Washington into admitting to having burned indigenous villages in the Seven Years' War, resulting in the assumption by players and the characters alike that Kanatahséton must have been one of them—but this is never confirmed. Washington could only have been referring to the {{wiki\|Forbes Expedition}} of 1758, when Connor would have only been two-years-old and two years before the setting of "Hide and Seek".		*The confession that Haytham extracts from Washington is indirect. He leads Washington into admitting to having burned indigenous villages in the Seven Years' War, resulting in the assumption by players and the characters alike that Kanatahséton must have been one of them—but this is never confirmed. Washington could only have been referring to the {{wiki\|Forbes Expedition}} of 1758, when Connor would have only been two-years-old and two years before the setting of "Hide and Seek".
	*Historically, George Washington resigned from military service in the Seven Years' War at the end of 1758,<ref name="Lengel 2005">Lengel, Edward G. "The Virginia Regiment · July 1735 – January 1759". In ''General George Washington: A Military Life''. New York, NY: Random House Trade Paperbacks, pp. 63–80.</ref> a fact that is acknowledged in ''Assassin's Creed III'' itself in [[Database: George Washington (Assassin's Creed III)\|his database entry]]. Moreover, while the Seven Years' War officially ended in 1763 with the {{wiki\|Treaty of Paris (1763)\|Treaty of Paris}}, virtually all hostilities in the Americas had ceased by 1760<ref name="Nichols 2014" /> with the exception of the {{wiki\|Conquest of New France (1758–1760)\|conquest of New France}}.<ref name="Kamensky 2019, 5">Kamensky, Jane, et al. (2019). "The Ends of Empire, 1754–1774". In ''A People and a Nation: A History of the United States''. 11th edition. Boston, MA: Cengage Learning, pp. 118–145</ref>		*Historically, George Washington resigned from military service in the Seven Years' War at the end of 1758,<ref name="Lengel 2005">Lengel, Edward G. (2007). "The Virginia Regiment · July 1735 – January 1759". In ''General George Washington: A Military Life''. New York, NY: Random House Trade Paperbacks, pp. 63–80.</ref> a fact that is acknowledged in ''Assassin's Creed III'' itself in [[Database: George Washington (Assassin's Creed III)\|his database entry]]. Moreover, while the Seven Years' War officially ended in 1763 with the {{wiki\|Treaty of Paris (1763)\|Treaty of Paris}},<ref name="French and Indian War">''[[Assassin's Creed III]]'' – [[Database: French and Indian War]]</ref> virtually all hostilities in the Americas had ceased by 1760<ref name="Nichols 2014" /> with the exception of the {{wiki\|Conquest of New France (1758–1760)\|conquest of New France}}.<ref name="Kamensky 2019, 5">Kamensky, Jane, et al. (2019). "The Ends of Empire, 1754–1774". In ''A People and a Nation: A History of the United States''. 11th edition. Boston, MA: Cengage Learning, pp. 118–145</ref>
	''Assassin's Creed: Initiates'' appears to have attempted to address these chronological conflicts with the database entry "[[Database: Smoke Leads To...\|Smoke Leads To...]]". There, Washington is stated to have ordered the razing of Kanatahséton on 2 November 1760, apparently from his own estate at [[Mount Vernon]] and apart from the Forbes Expedition. It describes his motive as "''eradicating the native threat. . .as he was concerned that local tribes would attack his men''" despite the Iroquois historically being allied with the British during the war.<ref name="Pevar 2012">Pevar, Stephen L. (2012). "A History of Federal Indian Policy". In ''The Rights of Indians and Tribes''. 4th edition. New York, NY: Oxford University Press, pp. 1–15.</ref>		''Assassin's Creed: Initiates'' appears to have attempted to address these chronological conflicts with the database entry "[[Database: Smoke Leads To...\|Smoke Leads To...]]". There, Washington is stated to have ordered the razing of Kanatahséton on 2 November 1760, apparently from his own estate at [[Mount Vernon]] and apart from the Forbes Expedition. It describes his motive as "''eradicating the native threat. . .as he was concerned that local tribes would attack his men''" despite the Iroquois historically being allied with the British during the war.<ref name="Pevar 2012">Pevar, Stephen L. (2012). "A History of Federal Indian Policy". In ''The Rights of Indians and Tribes''. 4th edition. New York, NY: Oxford University Press, pp. 1–15.</ref>