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imported>The Crimson Eagle: /* Comments */

2014-12-27T01:32:22Z

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	#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)		#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
	##Storm has a good point. I had a look at some of the Rome landmarks yesterday, and I can't imagine the "Baths of Trajan" working very well - in this case, I definitely think the Italian term works better, but for the Colosseum, I think the English name is a better choice. As Storm says, a case-by-case basis seems a good approach {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 18:40, December 25, 2014 (UTC)		##Storm has a good point. I had a look at some of the Rome landmarks yesterday, and I can't imagine the "Baths of Trajan" working very well - in this case, I definitely think the Italian term works better, but for the Colosseum, I think the English name is a better choice. As Storm says, a case-by-case basis seems a good approach {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 18:40, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
			##The translations in brackets will stay, and I imagine that we can use the native names as redirects, so people can still find the pages either way. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 01:32, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

imported>Kainzorus Prime: /* Name landmark articles in English */

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Name landmark articles in English

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	#Like I said up there, it's far easier to remember English names. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Like I said up there, it's far easier to remember English names. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#As I see it, we do this one way or the other. Dilly-dallying over the landmarks being in one language or another seems pointless when we have other priorities to concern ourselves with. I remember us debating over having translations for them in brackets, and in the end, we came to a conclusion and stuck by it. Having landmarks in English is simpler for all, and it's not like we'll scrap the translations either way. [[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper\|talk]]) 21:54, December 26, 2014 (UTC)		#As I see it, we do this one way or the other. Dilly-dallying over the landmarks being in one language or another seems pointless when we have other priorities to concern ourselves with. I remember us debating over having translations for them in brackets, and in the end, we came to a conclusion and stuck by it. Having landmarks in English is simpler for all, and it's not like we'll scrap the translations either way. [[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper\|talk]]) 21:54, December 26, 2014 (UTC)
			#Since nobody bothered to link to this supposed policy, I don't see a reason to support it. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 22:13, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

	==Name landmark articles in their native language==		==Name landmark articles in their native language==

imported>Slate Vesper: /* Name landmark articles in English */

2014-12-26T21:54:46Z

Name landmark articles in English

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	#Agreed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:53, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Agreed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:53, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#Like I said up there, it's far easier to remember English names. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Like I said up there, it's far easier to remember English names. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
			#As I see it, we do this one way or the other. Dilly-dallying over the landmarks being in one language or another seems pointless when we have other priorities to concern ourselves with. I remember us debating over having translations for them in brackets, and in the end, we came to a conclusion and stuck by it. Having landmarks in English is simpler for all, and it's not like we'll scrap the translations either way. [[User:Slate Vesper\|Slate Vesper]] ([[User talk:Slate Vesper\|talk]]) 21:54, December 26, 2014 (UTC)

	==Name landmark articles in their native language==		==Name landmark articles in their native language==

imported>Crookandcharlatan: That was me, sorry ^^;

2014-12-25T18:40:43Z

That was me, sorry ^^;

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	#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)		#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
	##Storm has a good point. I had a look at some of the Rome landmarks yesterday, and I can't imagine the "Baths of Trajan" working very well - in this case, I definitely think the Italian term works better, but for the Colosseum, I think the English name is a better choice. As Storm says, a case-by-case basis seems a good approach ~~[[Special~~:~~Contributions~~/~~81.82.40.12\|81.82.40.12]]~~ 18:39, December 25, 2014 (UTC)		##Storm has a good point. I had a look at some of the Rome landmarks yesterday, and I can't imagine the "Baths of Trajan" working very well - in this case, I definitely think the Italian term works better, but for the Colosseum, I think the English name is a better choice. As Storm says, a case-by-case basis seems a good approach {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 18:40, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

81.82.40.12 at 18:39, 25 December 2014

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	==Name landmark articles in their native language==		==Name landmark articles in their native language==
	#The current policy has worked fine for the past seven years, and I see no reason to change it. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:00, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#The current policy has worked fine for the past seven years, and I see no reason to change it. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:00, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#I am interested in seeing the forum where this policy was decided on, as I wasn't aware of it - however, I think I have been following it more or less unconsciously, so I don't really see anything wrong with continuing that way (like the [[Cathedral of Havana]], which seems much easier than the Spanish or English name). I might still change opinions, depending on the opposite's arguments, but consider me in this "camp" for now. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:44, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#<strike>I am interested in seeing the forum where this policy was decided on, as I wasn't aware of it - however, I think I have been following it more or less unconsciously, so I don't really see anything wrong with continuing that way (like the [[Cathedral of Havana]], which seems much easier than the Spanish or English name). I might still change opinions, depending on the opposite's arguments, but consider me in this "camp" for now. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:44, December 24, 2014 (UTC)</strike>

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	#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)		#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)
			##Storm has a good point. I had a look at some of the Rome landmarks yesterday, and I can't imagine the "Baths of Trajan" working very well - in this case, I definitely think the Italian term works better, but for the Colosseum, I think the English name is a better choice. As Storm says, a case-by-case basis seems a good approach [[Special:Contributions/81.82.40.12\|81.82.40.12]] 18:39, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

imported>Stormbeast: /* Comments */

2014-12-25T16:53:28Z

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	#I aunt to point out that we do not use the subjects native name, but the name it is given in its Database entry - one which may, or may not be native. To use the article in question as an example; the French name is actually Le Château de Versailles, which is what I would have named it were it not called "Palais de Versailles" in the Database. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:04, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#I aunt to point out that we do not use the subjects native name, but the name it is given in its Database entry - one which may, or may not be native. To use the article in question as an example; the French name is actually Le Château de Versailles, which is what I would have named it were it not called "Palais de Versailles" in the Database. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:04, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
			#I can't possibly vote either way, because I feel it should be done on a case-by-case basis. Most landmarks, say in Rome, are more commonly known in their native forms over their English ones. Colosseum, however, is referred to as such by the modern-day Assassins. Trying to force one policy over all the landmarks just seems absurd and may cause them to take on names that no one is familiar with. {{User:Stormbeast/sig}} 16:53, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

imported>The Crimson Eagle: /* Name landmark articles in English */ Kind of stupid of me to not have voted when I set this up.

2014-12-24T22:56:57Z

Name landmark articles in English: Kind of stupid of me to not have voted when I set this up.

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	#Like I've said, I find it rather silly to name landmarks by their native names on an English-language wiki simply because the inconsistent in-game databases tend to name them like that. In ''Brotherhood'', the database refers to the [[Colosseum]] as the ''Colosseo'', while it's also referred to as the Colosseum at other times. In the later games, they've started using English names for places like the [[Cathedral of Havana]] as well.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 22:50, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Like I've said, I find it rather silly to name landmarks by their native names on an English-language wiki simply because the inconsistent in-game databases tend to name them like that. In ''Brotherhood'', the database refers to the [[Colosseum]] as the ''Colosseo'', while it's also referred to as the Colosseum at other times. In the later games, they've started using English names for places like the [[Cathedral of Havana]] as well.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 22:50, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#Agreed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:53, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Agreed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:53, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
			#Like I said up there, it's far easier to remember English names. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:56, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

	==Name landmark articles in their native language==		==Name landmark articles in their native language==

imported>Master Sima Yi: /* Name landmark articles in English */

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Name landmark articles in English

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	#Like I've said, I find it rather silly to name landmarks by their native names on an English-language wiki simply because the inconsistent in-game databases tend to name them like that. In ''Brotherhood'', the database refers to the [[Colosseum]] as the ''Colosseo'', while it's also referred to as the Colosseum at other times. In the later games, they've started using English names for places like the [[Cathedral of Havana]] as well.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 22:50, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Like I've said, I find it rather silly to name landmarks by their native names on an English-language wiki simply because the inconsistent in-game databases tend to name them like that. In ''Brotherhood'', the database refers to the [[Colosseum]] as the ''Colosseo'', while it's also referred to as the Colosseum at other times. In the later games, they've started using English names for places like the [[Cathedral of Havana]] as well.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 22:50, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
			#Agreed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:53, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

	==Name landmark articles in their native language==		==Name landmark articles in their native language==

imported>Bovkaffe: /* Name landmark articles in English */

2014-12-24T22:50:44Z

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	==Name landmark articles in English==		==Name landmark articles in English==
	#		#Like I've said, I find it rather silly to name landmarks by their native names on an English-language wiki simply because the inconsistent in-game databases tend to name them like that. In ''Brotherhood'', the database refers to the [[Colosseum]] as the ''Colosseo'', while it's also referred to as the Colosseum at other times. In the later games, they've started using English names for places like the [[Cathedral of Havana]] as well.--[[User:Bovkaffe\|Bovkaffe]] ([[User talk:Bovkaffe\|talk]]) 22:50, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

	==Name landmark articles in their native language==		==Name landmark articles in their native language==

imported>Crookandcharlatan at 21:46, 24 December 2014

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	#The current policy has worked fine for the past seven years, and I see no reason to change it. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:00, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#The current policy has worked fine for the past seven years, and I see no reason to change it. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:00, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#I am interested in seeing the forum where this policy was decided on, as I wasn't aware of it - however, I think I have been following it more or less unconsciously, so I don't really see anything wrong with continuing that way. I might still change opinions, depending on the opposite's arguments, but consider me in this "camp" for now. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:44, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#I am interested in seeing the forum where this policy was decided on, as I wasn't aware of it - however, I think I have been following it more or less unconsciously, so I don't really see anything wrong with continuing that way (like the [[Cathedral of Havana]], which seems much easier than the Spanish or English name). I might still change opinions, depending on the opposite's arguments, but consider me in this "camp" for now. {{User:Crookandcharlatan/sig}} 21:44, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

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	#I aunt to point out that we do not use the subjects native name, but the name it is given in its Database entry - one which may, or may not be native. To use the article in question as an example; the French name is actually Le Château de Versailles, which is what I would have named it were it not called "Palais de Versailles" in the Database. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:04, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#I aunt to point out that we do not use the subjects native name, but the name it is given in its Database entry - one which may, or may not be native. To use the article in question as an example; the French name is actually Le Château de Versailles, which is what I would have named it were it not called "Palais de Versailles" in the Database. --'''''[[User:Jasca Ducato\|Jasca Ducato]]''''' <small>([[User talk:Jasca Ducato\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Jasca Ducato\|contributions]])</small> 20:04, December 24, 2014 (UTC)
	#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)		#Before deciding, I need a link to this policy. --<span style="text-shadow: black 1px 2px 3px;">[[User:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="4">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#7575DB" size="6">⚜</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime\|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]]</span> 20:11, December 24, 2014 (UTC)