Forum:God - Revision history

https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Forum%3AGod Forum:God - Revision history 2026-06-09T14:15:15Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.42.3 https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951469&oldid=prev imported>Hawki at 00:13, 18 July 2014 2014-07-18T00:13:53Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:13, 18 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l30">Line 30:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 30:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Because, believe it or not, fictional characters are allowed to have original ideas before they occurred historically. Ezio had the Hidden Gun before guards were seen using guns, so why don't you call that out too? Finally, how can you be so sure that there is a "God First Civvie"? Your arguments don't make any sense.--{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:48, July 17, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Because, believe it or not, fictional characters are allowed to have original ideas before they occurred historically. Ezio had the Hidden Gun before guards were seen using guns, so why don't you call that out too? Finally, how can you be so sure that there is a "God First Civvie"? Your arguments don't make any sense.--{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:48, July 17, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Come to think of it, there is the [[Father of Understanding]] page. General impression it gives is that the Templars at least profess faith in a monotheistic deity. Seems to be analogous to monotheism as the FC is to pantheism. Both myths propagated by humanity intentionally or otherwise.--[[User:Hawki|Hawki]] ([[User talk:Hawki|talk]]) 00:13, July 18, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Hawki https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951468&oldid=prev imported>The Crimson Eagle at 22:48, 17 July 2014 2014-07-17T22:48:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:48, 18 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l28">Line 28:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 28:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>How is God "completely random and unrelated to anything" Juno said (everything she said was random and cryptic (most of it, we came to understand later on) ), or even the First Civ themselves? And I meant how could Altair list the exaggerated similarities between Jesus and the demigods when the Christ Myth theory wasn't propagated until recent centuries? Also, in response to "I believe there is definetly no God First Civvie in the ACverse", how can you be so sure? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 21:59, July 17, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>How is God "completely random and unrelated to anything" Juno said (everything she said was random and cryptic (most of it, we came to understand later on) ), or even the First Civ themselves? And I meant how could Altair list the exaggerated similarities between Jesus and the demigods when the Christ Myth theory wasn't propagated until recent centuries? Also, in response to "I believe there is definetly no God First Civvie in the ACverse", how can you be so sure? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 21:59, July 17, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Because, believe it or not, fictional characters are allowed to have original ideas before they occurred historically. Ezio had the Hidden Gun before guards were seen using guns, so why don't you call that out too? Finally, how can you be so sure that there is a "God First Civvie"? Your arguments don't make any sense.--{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:48, July 17, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>The Crimson Eagle https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951467&oldid=prev imported>ParadisecityXO at 21:59, 17 July 2014 2014-07-17T21:59:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:59, 17 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l26">Line 26:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>...Father Time? Makes perfect sense to me, since giving pronouns to inanimate objects/concepts differs between cultures. Juno certainly comes from a different culture, to say the least. -[[User:Molotov.cockroach|Molotov.cockroach]] ([[User talk:Molotov.cockroach|talk]]) 03:33, July 15, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>...Father Time? Makes perfect sense to me, since giving pronouns to inanimate objects/concepts differs between cultures. Juno certainly comes from a different culture, to say the least. -[[User:Molotov.cockroach|Molotov.cockroach]] ([[User talk:Molotov.cockroach|talk]]) 03:33, July 15, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">How is God "completely random and unrelated to anything" Juno said (everything she said was random and cryptic (most of it, we came to understand later on) ), or even the First Civ themselves? And I meant how could Altair list the exaggerated similarities between Jesus and the demigods when the Christ Myth theory wasn't propagated until recent centuries? Also, in response to "I believe there is definetly no God First Civvie in the ACverse", how can you be so sure? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 21:59, July 17, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>ParadisecityXO https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951466&oldid=prev imported>Unrulyruby100 at 03:33, 15 July 2014 2014-07-15T03:33:49Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:33, 15 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l24">Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I don't know why she would. But it would make no sense for her to talk about God there as it is completely random and unrelated to anything. I don't know why Minerva and Juno would refer to themselves in the third person either in ''AC2'' and ''ACB''. As for Jesus' resurrection, we know nothing of this in ''AC'' canon. The only thing we know about Jesus is that he had the Shroud and might have had an Apple of Eden as well. In addition to what Crimson said, Altaïr could have gained this insight using the Apple, similar to how he was able to develop a gun several centuries before the arquebus was developed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:14, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I don't know why she would. But it would make no sense for her to talk about God there as it is completely random and unrelated to anything. I don't know why Minerva and Juno would refer to themselves in the third person either in ''AC2'' and ''ACB''. As for Jesus' resurrection, we know nothing of this in ''AC'' canon. The only thing we know about Jesus is that he had the Shroud and might have had an Apple of Eden as well. In addition to what Crimson said, Altaïr could have gained this insight using the Apple, similar to how he was able to develop a gun several centuries before the arquebus was developed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:14, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">...Father Time? Makes perfect sense to me, since giving pronouns to inanimate objects/concepts differs between cultures. Juno certainly comes from a different culture, to say the least. -[[User:Molotov.cockroach|Molotov.cockroach]] ([[User talk:Molotov.cockroach|talk]]) 03:33, July 15, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Unrulyruby100 https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951465&oldid=prev imported>Master Sima Yi at 22:14, 14 July 2014 2014-07-14T22:14:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:14, 15 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:So what you're saying is "Altaïr can't think of something because this group of people didn't think of it". That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. There's no reason Altaïr couldn't think of it. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:09, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:So what you're saying is "Altaïr can't think of something because this group of people didn't think of it". That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. There's no reason Altaïr couldn't think of it. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:09, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I don't know why she would. But it would make no sense for her to talk about God there as it is completely random and unrelated to anything. I don't know why Minerva and Juno would refer to themselves in the third person either in ''AC2'' and ''ACB''. As for Jesus' resurrection, we know nothing of this in ''AC'' canon. The only thing we know about Jesus is that he had the Shroud and might have had an Apple of Eden as well. In addition to what Crimson said, Altaïr could have gained this insight using the Apple, similar to how he was able to develop a gun several centuries before the arquebus was developed. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 22:14, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Master Sima Yi https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951464&oldid=prev imported>The Crimson Eagle at 22:09, 14 July 2014 2014-07-14T22:09:46Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:09, 15 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l20">Line 20:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 20:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Time is a concept, so why would she refer to it as "he", "his ", "etc.? And Brutus reanimated for 5 seconds (corspes sometimes do that, I don't know the name for it, but sometimes corpses in the morge sit up for a few seconds and open their eyes or let out a breath (like if someone held their breath when they die), you know what I mean?), Jesus however was fully resurrected. Btw on the Jesus subject, in Altair's codex (11); he listed the exaggerated similarities between Jesus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra, etc. even though the similarities weren't thought of until recently by Christ Mythicists, how would he think of that? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 22:04, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Time is a concept, so why would she refer to it as "he", "his ", "etc.? And Brutus reanimated for 5 seconds (corspes sometimes do that, I don't know the name for it, but sometimes corpses in the morge sit up for a few seconds and open their eyes or let out a breath (like if someone held their breath when they die), you know what I mean?), Jesus however was fully resurrected. Btw on the Jesus subject, in Altair's codex (11); he listed the exaggerated similarities between Jesus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra, etc. even though the similarities weren't thought of until recently by Christ Mythicists, how would he think of that? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 22:04, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:So what you're saying is "Altaïr can't think of something because this group of people didn't think of it". That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. There's no reason Altaïr couldn't think of it. --{{User:The Crimson Eagle/sig}} 22:09, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>The Crimson Eagle https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951463&oldid=prev imported>ParadisecityXO at 22:04, 14 July 2014 2014-07-14T22:04:29Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:04, 15 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>To me it makes sense, also considering that by the time Judaism, Christianity and Islam were founded the First Civilization were already extinct. What Juno was referring to in the Santa Maria in Aracoeli was 'time'. "Almost did we have the means. But time... time erodes us. We can distract him. We can see past him. Feint left when he strikes right. But his reach is so very long. His stamina unending. We cannot evade his grasp. Not forever." William did refer to the First Civilization as the Nephilim, yes - "We saw the Nephilim there. We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them." - but more often than not the First Civilization are referred to as "the gods", ''Brahman'' being the most recent example. Also I think I'm fairly certain that we can say in ''AC'' canon Jesus was not the son of God, and was also not a real miracle worker. Brutus technically ''was'' revived by the Shroud, albeit for a short period of time, and the same effect may also have happened for Jesus. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 08:42, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>To me it makes sense, also considering that by the time Judaism, Christianity and Islam were founded the First Civilization were already extinct. What Juno was referring to in the Santa Maria in Aracoeli was 'time'. "Almost did we have the means. But time... time erodes us. We can distract him. We can see past him. Feint left when he strikes right. But his reach is so very long. His stamina unending. We cannot evade his grasp. Not forever." William did refer to the First Civilization as the Nephilim, yes - "We saw the Nephilim there. We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them." - but more often than not the First Civilization are referred to as "the gods", ''Brahman'' being the most recent example. Also I think I'm fairly certain that we can say in ''AC'' canon Jesus was not the son of God, and was also not a real miracle worker. Brutus technically ''was'' revived by the Shroud, albeit for a short period of time, and the same effect may also have happened for Jesus. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 08:42, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Time is a concept, so why would she refer to it as "he", "his ", "etc.? And Brutus reanimated for 5 seconds (corspes sometimes do that, I don't know the name for it, but sometimes corpses in the morge sit up for a few seconds and open their eyes or let out a breath (like if someone held their breath when they die), you know what I mean?), Jesus however was fully resurrected. Btw on the Jesus subject, in Altair's codex (11); he listed the exaggerated similarities between Jesus, Horus, Krishna, Mithra, etc. even though the similarities weren't thought of until recently by Christ Mythicists, how would he think of that? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 22:04, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>ParadisecityXO https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951462&oldid=prev imported>Master Sima Yi at 08:42, 14 July 2014 2014-07-14T08:42:58Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:42, 14 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l16">Line 16:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 16:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So all the gods in every culture known to man (who were looked upon as gods anyway), were real with the exception of God Itself being the only nonexistent one? That's just retarded. I think Juno cryptically mentioned God when Desmond and them were at the Santa Maria near the Colosseum in Brotherhood. One might think they really were angels ("The heroes of old, me of renown"), Desmon's old man said something about it in AC3. Also on Jesus, wouldn't it be implied he really was the son of God (since it only resurrected him and no one else it was tried on; the failed attempt at resurrecting Brutus with it, for example), and wearing the shroud was a coincidence (the biggest one in the world one might think)? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 07:28, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So all the gods in every culture known to man (who were looked upon as gods anyway), were real with the exception of God Itself being the only nonexistent one? That's just retarded. I think Juno cryptically mentioned God when Desmond and them were at the Santa Maria near the Colosseum in Brotherhood. One might think they really were angels ("The heroes of old, me of renown"), Desmon's old man said something about it in AC3. Also on Jesus, wouldn't it be implied he really was the son of God (since it only resurrected him and no one else it was tried on; the failed attempt at resurrecting Brutus with it, for example), and wearing the shroud was a coincidence (the biggest one in the world one might think)? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 07:28, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">To me it makes sense, also considering that by the time Judaism, Christianity and Islam were founded the First Civilization were already extinct. What Juno was referring to in the Santa Maria in Aracoeli was 'time'. "Almost did we have the means. But time... time erodes us. We can distract him. We can see past him. Feint left when he strikes right. But his reach is so very long. His stamina unending. We cannot evade his grasp. Not forever." William did refer to the First Civilization as the Nephilim, yes - "We saw the Nephilim there. We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them." - but more often than not the First Civilization are referred to as "the gods", ''Brahman'' being the most recent example. Also I think I'm fairly certain that we can say in ''AC'' canon Jesus was not the son of God, and was also not a real miracle worker. Brutus technically ''was'' revived by the Shroud, albeit for a short period of time, and the same effect may also have happened for Jesus. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 08:42, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>Master Sima Yi https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951461&oldid=prev imported>ParadisecityXO at 07:28, 14 July 2014 2014-07-14T07:28:17Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:28, 14 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Closest thing we had to Christian God stuff was how Jesus had the Shroud of Eden to perform the miracles, and Moses had the Staff, or an Apple, to part the Red Sea. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 23:33, July 13, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Closest thing we had to Christian God stuff was how Jesus had the Shroud of Eden to perform the miracles, and Moses had the Staff, or an Apple, to part the Red Sea. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 23:33, July 13, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">So all the gods in every culture known to man (who were looked upon as gods anyway), were real with the exception of God Itself being the only nonexistent one? That's just retarded. I think Juno cryptically mentioned God when Desmond and them were at the Santa Maria near the Colosseum in Brotherhood. One might think they really were angels ("The heroes of old, me of renown"), Desmon's old man said something about it in AC3. Also on Jesus, wouldn't it be implied he really was the son of God (since it only resurrected him and no one else it was tried on; the failed attempt at resurrecting Brutus with it, for example), and wearing the shroud was a coincidence (the biggest one in the world one might think)? [[User:ParadisecityXO|ParadisecityXO]] ([[User talk:ParadisecityXO|talk]]) 07:28, July 14, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

imported>ParadisecityXO https://assassinscreedwiki.accesstheanimus.com/index.php?title=Forum:God&diff=951460&oldid=prev imported>Kainzorus Prime at 23:33, 13 July 2014 2014-07-13T23:33:46Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en-GB"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:33, 14 July 2014</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In short: no, at this point, I believe there is definitely no God First Civvie in the ACverse. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 23:10, July 13, 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In short: no, at this point, I believe there is definitely no God First Civvie in the ACverse. -- {{User:Master Sima Yi/sig}} 23:10, July 13, 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Closest thing we had to Christian God stuff was how Jesus had the Shroud of Eden to perform the miracles, and Moses had the Staff, or an Apple, to part the Red Sea. --[[User:Kainzorus Prime|<font color="#7575DB" face="OCR A" size="3">Kainzorus Prime</font>]] [[User talk:Kainzorus Prime|<font color="#4C99A6"><sup>Walkie-talkie</sup></font>]] 23:33, July 13, 2014 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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